Another Perfect Game.....Almost MLB

[hookbill]

Last night Armando Galarraga of the Detroit Tigers pitched a perfect game but the ump blew the call. [video=youtube;VmCNNxRg_Og]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmCNNxRg_Og]YouTube - Armando Galarraga's perfect game ruined on the last out[/video]

So, do they need instant replay for these type of plays?

This thread is for just discussing what happened last night. If you don't like baseball then please don't participate.

 

[cereal killer]

The ump admitted he was wrong and I hope they overturn it and give him the perfect game.

They should definitely have instant replay. One bad call can determine a game.

Instant replay should be limited to calls of "safe" or "out" (including catches)

Calls on pitches should be left out

 

[hookbill]

I just happen to have MLBnet on the television and Armando Galarraga brought out the line up card to the ump Jim Joyce, the ump that blew the call. The ump was in tears. It was a special moment. Joyce is behind the plate today.

 

[Tallica]

I just happen to have MLBnet on the television and Armando Galarraga brought out the line up card to the ump Jim Joyce, the ump that blew the call. The ump was in tears. It was a special moment. Joyce is behind the plate today.

I agree compleatly, I think Jim Joyce felt worse then Galarraga.

They both handled it very professionally, even though he did blow the call, and admitted it after he saw the replay.

The replay question is interesting. They already use it for HR calls fair/foul.

Maybe something like football with challenges would work. It's a slippery slope, of course you wouldn't be able to review ball/strikes but game changing plays should get a 2nd look, but you don't want to totally take the human element out of the game, also the process has to be smooth, baseball games are long enough already, and they would have to come up with a list of reviewable/non-reviewable call.



I believe something has to happen I just don't think it will for a while

 

[hookbill]

I believe something has to happen I just don't think it will for a while

Baseball doesn't do changes that quickly, however I think that this particular incident may cause MLB to allow replay on calls on the bases.

The problem that I see however is how often are you going to be able to challenge the call. If every close play is challenged that would hurt the game, not help it. They have to come up with some type of rules to say when a challenge/replay is made.

For example on double plays I don't think it should be used. The "area" call in baseball has been around forever at second base. How many times does a player jump over the bag to avoid the player sliding in.

This bit of "cheating" has always been acceptable, just like LeBron James taking 3 steps to do a slam dunk.

 

[ljprevo]

They say that to get that reversed the commissioner would have to make that call. For a PR stance they should change it. It would not change the outcome of the game.

 

[gszeman]

When I saw that call last night i was like then I was like this >.<

I do feel bad for Joyce also...he knows he messed up, but i agree that he handled his mistake professionally.

But then again, it's just baseball...Just a filler until the Red Wings are back on

 

[droiddict]

It's a lot more than just a game to Galarraga and the ump. Is there ANYONE that doesn't think he should have had a perfect game? This is a perfect time to change the rules and an easy one to change "this time" and then make a policy going forward. A limited number of challenge requests seems like it would be doable. Not perfect, but better than letting obvious mistakes go down in history?

 

[hookbill]

It's a lot more than just a game to Galarraga and the ump. Is there ANYONE that doesn't think he should have had a perfect game? This is a perfect time to change the rules and an easy one to change "this time" and then make a policy going forward. A limited number of challenge requests seems like it would be doable. Not perfect, but better than letting obvious mistakes go down in history?

As unfortunate as it is, I don't think they should give him the Perfect Game. You have to go by the rules as is, not because replay shows differently.

That's like taking away Jackie Robinson's steal of home plate. clearly in the replay Yogi tags him. Ump called him safe.

I know throwing a perfect game is a big deal, but everyone knows he did do it even if the record doesn't show it.

 

[OneTenderRebel]

I have to say for the ump to do what he did was a pretty amazing thing. You often see umps let their pride get in the way of stuff like that. Players do the same thing as well. I still don't know where I stand on reversing the call though. I am sure if you span the last 10-15 years of baseball there have been a large amount of games decided by a bad call. If you change this one call to give the guy a perfect game, what kind of bag of worms would that open? Now I do think baseball needs to act immediately and put something in place now so it never happens again. All in all it was a horrible call with about a good an ending as one could hope for. The Tigers and the ump need to be praised for showing the world the the right way to handle a crappy situation.

 

[sherylhs]

I feel truly bad for Joyce. Here's a guy who loves the game of baseball so much he became an umpire... for over 20 years. To then have to live with a decision you made on the field that was bad... has to hurt like hell.

Everyone handled it amazingly well.

My favorite part? The smile Galarraga gave after Joyce indicated safe. It's the same look my son has when he says "are you KIDDING me?"

~S