Android wear update

[mountainbikermark]

I assumed you meant both hands were full. I really like keyless entry. It's very freeing not needing anything but a finger to punch in a code. Until you have that freedom, you won't understand. I jest.


You should know your audience better then that. I think we can all imagine.


I promise you I'll not be writing characters on my watch.


Pujie Black does all this. And I love it.

Date. Temp. Batt for watch and phone. And I can put other stuff there. Steps, appts.
I'm not nay saying your point. Being able to do that on any watch certainly would be nice.



Advertising is always king. Advertising MADE Apple. It built Samsung into a major player.
We had smartphones before Apple. Ever see a Palm Pilot commercial? A Motorola Q commercial running Windows Mobile? How many 1st gen iPhone commercials did you see?
Palm made some Pre commercials. That model did ok.
That famous tagline "There's an app for that" was a huge success. Droid Does...a good success.
HTC did well with the Incredible....remember those commercials? How about the ones that followed for HTC phones? Not so much.

I've seen some AW commercials. Most suck. I saw ONE Chevy or Hyundai commercial where dude starts his car with his watch....I want that.

He who advertises best....wins.




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But you have to have something to advertise. That's why Google ads for the watch suck. There was nothing to brag about before the apps started to get better. The Inc was a beast of a phone, thus it was touted as such. The iPhone was the first phone that was simple to use for the masses (there's an app for that spoke to the average task user). The bear chasing the folks and the watch saving the day to go with another Hyundai showing a business dressed lady using her watch to start her car as the commentator states "Hyundai Elantra . Now with smartwatch capability" speaks volumes. At the time the kids were dancing the best thing AW had going for it was playlist sync.
That's what I mean about advertising didn't make the smartphone go from niche to mainstream. It was capabilities going from not so much to add you wrote "I want that" because it's actually useful and not a gimmick.

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[kodiak799]

I'm already on the waiting list for the next-gen bluetooth deadbolt. Finally can leave the keys - and phone - at home when I go workout. And for that matter, when I travel.

We get NFC in more of these suckers then the wallet can stay home more often, too. I kind of pooh-poohed the smartwatch as mostly a small fitness niche, but the more I think about it the more it's clear it's the ultimate evolution for routine tasks - you'll only want your phone when you absolutely NEED a large screen. And voice features negate a lot of those needs.

 

[PereDroid]

You need to watch these again, Mark. The average task user? Or did you mean to say "Everyone"?



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[Sajo]

So it looks like they are taking the Bits watch face and incorporating a lot of that functionality into the base AW software, among other things.

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[mountainbikermark]

You need to watch these again, Mark. The average task user? Or did you mean to say "Everyone"?



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Ever try that on a Windows Mobile phone? It was Apple that married the dumphone ease of use into the smartphone arena, thus making the average user no longer intimidated by the smartphone, the teenagers able to text away, the one like my wife who wants the device to do most of the work and setup , the business professional that needed to do tasks away from the office, etc. Before the iPhone only the dedicated professional and the geek were comfortable with a smartphone.
AW 2.0 looks, to me, like it's going to do for the smartwatch what iOS did for the smartphone. Samsung tried but their business model held the potential back. The way they don't support their hardware, don't support their developers and throw a new model out every few months with less capability than the previous but better bling factor is not the way to take over a market. Their launcher/home screen is more phone like but its better idea ends there. The S2 promised Samsung Pay but guess what still can't be used all these months later? To me the only way Samsung will still be relevant this time next year is if they go back to AW and abandon their Tizen experiment. And I'm a Tizen fan boy. Without a good product there's nothing to advertise. I think that's the point we're both making, sort of saying there same thing. Without the iPhone being the iPhone the ads wouldn't have worked.

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[PereDroid]

Ever try that on a Windows Mobile phone?

Yea, dude. I am not just talking about it out of my butt. I am not making stuff up based on what I read @ Wikipedia to back up my argument. I'm old. I LIVED it.

(The Samsung wasn't mine, but it was the best of the 3. MAN I wanted that one!)

It was Apple that married the dumphone ease of use into the smartphone arena, thus making the average user no longer intimidated by the smartphone,

Disagree with the first part, agree with the 2nd.
It wasn't the fact that Apple made it as easy as a dumbphone. It was MUCH harder to use then that. What Apple did was make the smartphone FUN for Joe Consumer. For EVERYONE. Not the "average task user". Not the business man. For HOME users.

the teenagers able to text away, the one like my wife who wants the device to do most of the work and setup , the business professional that needed to do tasks away from the office, etc. Before the iPhone only the dedicated professional and the geek were comfortable with a smartphone.

Business' did not jump on iPhones right away. This is where MS and to a lesser extent BB screwed up: ignoring the Home market.

AW 2.0 looks, to me, like it's going to do for the smartwatch what iOS did for the smartphone.

I don't think SmartWatches are ever going to hit critical mass. It is always going to be a niche product. Watches have been falling out of favor for years. Long before smart watches. Being able to start you car or use ANY standalone app on it is simply never going to appeal to a large market. Now when I can pour a cup of coffee out of it?!?

I also agree with Sajo that AW is already better then iWatch-OS. It's obvious you are a Tizen guy and not an AW guy if you think all AW is good for today is: Phone Butler. It's already more then that.

The Google commercial with the children ( ) dancing around with AW watches?? Google didn't do that because they have no features to advertise. They did it because they (mistakenly) thought they should try and market it to young people (that ones who aren't about to spend $300+ on a watch). Google makes mistakes. It happens.

 

[mountainbikermark]

Yea, dude. I am not just talking about it out of my butt. I am not making stuff up based on what I read @ Wikipedia to back up my argument. I'm old. I LIVED it.

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(The Samsung wasn't mine, but it was the best of the 3.


Disagree with the first part, agree with the 2nd.
It wasn't the fact that Apple made it as easy as a dumbphone. It was MUCH harder to use then that. What Apple did was make the smartphone FUN for Joe Consumer. For EVERYONE. Not the "average task user". Not the business man. For HOME users.


Business' did not jump on iPhones right away. This is where MS and to a lesser extent BB screwed up: ignoring the Home market.


I don't think SmartWatches are ever going to hit critical mass. It is always going to be a niche product. Watches have been falling out of favor for years. Long before smart watches. Being able to start you car or use ANY standalone app on it is simply never going to appeal to a large market. Now when I can pour a cup of coffee out of it?!?

I also agree with Sajo that AW is already better then iWatch-OS. It's obvious you are a Tizen guy and not an AW guy if you think all AW is good for today is: Phone Butler. It's already more then that.

The Google commercial with the children ( ) dancing around with AW watches?? Google didn't do that because they have no features to advertise. They did it because they (mistakenly) thought they should try and market it to young people (that ones who aren't about to spend $300+ on a watch). Google makes mistakes. It happens.

I'm old enough to remember Buck Rugers. Science fiction has been subliminally advertising the future products for decades. In most of your sci fib novels and movies, the phone isn't there. It has been replaced by something smaller.b remember wanting that thing Will Smith used in the movie I Robot.
Disconnect all radios from your current watch. How useful is it then? AW2 changes that. I'll revisit this thread in a year. If I'm wrong I'll apologize.

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[PereDroid]

Apologize for what? An interesting debate among... OLD MEN... errr... friends?!?!
STAHHHHP!

We'll revisit in a year, and whoever is right shall LAUGH AT THE OTHER GUY!

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[mountainbikermark]

Apologize for what? An interesting debate among... OLD MEN... errr... friends?!?!
STAHHHHP!

We'll revisit in a year, and whoever is right shall LAUGH AT THE OTHER GUY!

mwahahaha!

I'm gonna be watching mankind and might learn a thing or 3 about how the average sheep thinks. I think Apple gambled on the sheep mentality and released a product not ready for the sheep to gobble up. That's pretty bad when the sheep reject the grass.

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[kodiak799]

So it looks like they are taking the Bits watch face and incorporating a lot of that functionality into the base AW software, among other things.

The update looks promising. Two big complaints of mine are the inability to delete apps from the watch but not the phone - too many apps I like for my phone have "companion" AW apps that auto-install, taking up precious memory on my watch. I believe there is a way to remove those with ADB, but that's far too technical for the average user.

The other issue is some companion apps require you to start it on the phone first. That's more than a minor nuisance to remember to do before leaving for the gym without your phone.

Otherwise I think AW is great for my main reason for getting it - fitness. Anxiously awaiting my bluetooth deadbolt so I can leave the keys at home, too. Unfortunately, the Moto 360 Sport doesn't have NFC.

Obviously the watch will not replace the phone, but I can foresee people embracing the convenience that they don't always needs their phone within arm's reach.

 

[PereDroid]

I've given up on the hope of ever being able to remove the BLOATWARE. Shame on you Google.
Google Fit & Android Device Manager to name 2.
I have a Find My Phone app that kicks ADM's butt. I've had it so long, it came out BEFORE Google's ADM worked on AW. Google released it for AW and forced it to install. One day I raise my wrist: Ok Google Now, find my phone.
Nothing. Sigh...
I can't do that anymore because there are now 2 apps on my phone that respond to that command... so now neither does.
Yes, I've written Google about this (twice).

 

[Sajo]

...Yes, I've written Google about this (twice).

Have you considered writing Google about the issue? (Just kidding! )

 

[PereDroid]

Apparently the 360v2 got a new update today. If I ever find mine again...

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[Sajo]

Apparently the 360v2 got a new update today. If I ever find mine again...

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Just Moto Fitness stuff, maybe? Or something specific to just the 360?

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[Sajo]

I just received another AW app update on my phone, the normal bug fix app updates. Nothing available on the G Watch though.

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