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how did this explain why only certain phones are locked? or unlockable like thunderbolt. am I not smart enough to figure it out.. Still don't get it ???

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Its not rlly vzw that holds the key to the military strength encryption keys.. its moto :(

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Its not rlly vzw that holds the key to the military strength encryption keys.. its moto :(

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Yep. In the letter it states that VZW locks a bootloader depending on the device. I bet it has to do with the manufacturers and what they say. HTC and Samsung, LG and Sony, all have unlocked bootloaders. And we all know they support the Dev community. But Moto hasn't done anything. I believe that even though they say VZW is the one not unlocking it, I think Moto is to blame as well.
 
Yep. In the letter it states that VZW locks a bootloader depending on the device. I bet it has to do with the manufacturers and what they say. HTC and Samsung, LG and Sony, all have unlocked bootloaders. And we all know they support the Dev community. But Moto hasn't done anything. I believe that even though they say VZW is the one not unlocking it, I think Moto is to blame as well.

There was a similar thread on this subject recently in the moto forums. A moto employee jumped in and asked if someone could provide evidence or links to any recent HTC or Samsung phones that were bought through Verizon that were unlocked. So I did some digging and couldn't find any. All I could find were a few that it appeared came from HTC in the spring that got through by accident. Other than that they are all locked, except for people buying the retail elsewhere and trying to get them activated on the VZ network. Yes there are HTC's and Samsungs all over that are unlocked, and HTC is very supportive of the dev community. But I can't find where that is happening with VZ phones. Not giving you a hard time, just pointing out what the moto guy said, and my inability to prove him wrong.
 
There was a similar thread on this subject recently in the moto forums. A moto employee jumped in and asked if someone could provide evidence or links to any recent HTC or Samsung phones that were bought through Verizon that were unlocked. So I did some digging and couldn't find any. All I could find were a few that it appeared came from HTC in the spring that got through by accident. Other than that they are all locked, except for people buying the retail elsewhere and trying to get them activated on the VZ network. Yes there are HTC's and Samsungs all over that are unlocked, and HTC is very supportive of the dev community. But I can't find where that is happening with VZ phones. Not giving you a hard time, just pointing out what the moto guy said, and my inability to prove him wrong.
Very true didn't think about that. I guess most phones are not sold from Verizon unlocked, but I believe you can sign an agreement with HTC gaining a key to unlock it. Obviously it voids any warranty as usual. But at least HTC is giving that option, where as Moto is just pointing fingers trying to deflect the attention from them.
 
I have frozen the 2 apps and had my first day using both lte and cdma without a data drop since october 7th- 28 hours so far and the phone is working like it should
 
Can anyone specific the exact name of the apps to freeze to help stop the occasional data drops

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Apps to kill

In my case it was Advanced Task Killer and, unfortunately, I don't remember the exact name of the battery saver app, but it was
something like Battery Saver or Battery Defender. I hope that helps.
 
In my case it was Advanced Task Killer and, unfortunately, I don't remember the exact name of the battery saver app, but it was
something like Battery Saver or Battery Defender. I hope that helps.

Juice Defender??

I use Juice Defender and have very few issues. It does turn the radio off when the screen goes black (can be changed to not do so), but the problem really is not JD -- it is the fact that the radio is sometimes not switching back on or once it does cannot lock onto a 3G or 4G signal. The problem is really not the software but a VZ/Moto issue and likely exacerbated by JD. It's also the same reason why disabling the built-in VZ power management function seems to help some folks.
 
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Can anyone specific the exact name of the apps to freeze to help stop the occasional data drops

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I followed the original post on here - I don't know where task killer and whatever else started getting in the mix.

I downloaded root uninstaller from the market for free (will have to buy the pro version for $1.50 sooner or later since you are only allowed 3 freezes with the free version but the free will work as you test to make sure)

I then froze two apps;

1.) Battery & data manager
2.) Battery Manager


I am at 36 hours with LTE\CDMA mode on without a single data drop. My battery was low yesterday but I had my tablet tethered to it all day. I also have wifi and bluetooth on and working. Since freezing the two apps the bionic is now the phone I wanted and expected when purchasing it over a month ago. I hope this helps others because I was very disappointed but did not want to get in the run around with verizon support because I just don't have time and would not be nice to them. I will try to post when possible going forward because I know this is affecting a lot of people and hopefully this is a permanent fix.

Other notes- I am rooted (obviously or I couldn't use root uninstaller) but have not removed any of the bloatware yet; just did it for the tethering at the moment.
 
I followed the original post on here - I don't know where task killer and whatever else started getting in the mix.

I downloaded root uninstaller from the market for free (will have to buy the pro version for $1.50 sooner or later since you are only allowed 3 freezes with the free version but the free will work as you test to make sure)

I then froze two apps;

1.) Battery & data manager
2.) Battery Manager


I am at 36 hours with LTE\CDMA mode on without a single data drop. My battery was low yesterday but I had my tablet tethered to it all day. I also have wifi and bluetooth on and working. Since freezing the two apps the bionic is now the phone I wanted and expected when purchasing it over a month ago. I hope this helps others because I was very disappointed but did not want to get in the run around with verizon support because I just don't have time and would not be nice to them. I will try to post when possible going forward because I know this is affecting a lot of people and hopefully this is a permanent fix.

Other notes- I am rooted (obviously or I couldn't use root uninstaller) but have not removed any of the bloatware yet; just did it for the tethering at the moment.

I just looked into my apps and I don't have battery and data manager as an option under titanium backup.

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So it's been about 10 days since I froze battery and data manager. My phone has been much better but once I did have to switch on and off airplane mode after getting out of a subway, I do ride the subway 3-4 days a week and only once did I have an issue with it.

I am extremely happy with my bionic now.
 
Hey when i got root uninstaller from the market the freeze button is red and wont let me push it. Why is that and how can i do freeze them? Thanks

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Can someone PLEASE take the time to give an in depth explanation for people who don't completely understand? There's several posts that still are unanswered. For example I don't see either of the 2 apps in the list, WHERE CAN WE FIND THEM? I've never had any experience with root uninstaller and have no clue how to even use it. So some clarity on the matter would be much, greatly appreciated.
 
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