There was a similar thread on this subject recently in the moto forums. A moto employee jumped in and asked if someone could provide evidence or links to any recent HTC or Samsung phones that were bought through Verizon that were unlocked. So I did some digging and couldn't find any. All I could find were a few that it appeared came from HTC in the spring that got through by accident. Other than that they are all locked, except for people buying the retail elsewhere and trying to get them activated on the VZ network. Yes there are HTC's and Samsungs all over that are unlocked, and HTC is very supportive of the dev community. But I can't find where that is happening with VZ phones. Not giving you a hard time, just pointing out what the moto guy said, and my inability to prove him wrong.