Exactly. Not to mention, I doubt they use the same size chip for a tablet when they can space it out more due to the option of being able to do that.
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Also placement, orientation and proximity to other components and the interaction of the electromagnetic fields surrounding the components and their effect on operation of components and antennas.
Very good points.
The bottom line is that eventually there will be Qualcomm chipsets with the LTE radio built into the SoC, saving some space. But the first generation LTE radios are separate and are bigger, just like in any other silicon/chip technology... they will get smaller over time.
Brandon
The bottom line is that eventually there will be Qualcomm chipsets with the LTE radio built into the SoC, saving some space. But the first generation LTE radios are separate and are bigger, just like in any other silicon/chip technology... they will get smaller over time.
Brandon
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Granted I've never installed or even held a 4G LTE radio in my hand, but I've built computers for over 15 years and I have a hard time believing they stack 4G LTE radios to save space. So honestly, these are all just guesses, as I've yet to see someone post a picture of a 4G LTE radio.
Another thing, they most likely built 4G LTE radios for phones first, before the tablets. Since building a new one just for the tablet would cost millions in R&D, wouldn't it be more likely that they would use the 4G LTE radio they had already developed for phones in their tablets to save money?
Another thing, they most likely built 4G LTE radios for phones first, before the tablets. Since building a new one just for the tablet would cost millions in R&D, wouldn't it be more likely that they would use the 4G LTE radio they had already developed for phones in their tablets to save money?
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music life
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moto always delivers? ummm i beg to differ. they already messed up a dual core phone on 3g. i have my doubts about getting it right on 4g but im hoping. cant wait to get rid of my pos X2.
Byakushiki
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Here's something...at this moment, iPhone users *can't* even set a custom ringtone/alert sound, whereas we....can. Droid does in a world that doesn't :laugh:
Sent from my cyanoblurred D2G
Sent from my cyanoblurred D2G
bonesjones
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God...to think of owning an iphone sickens
I was being a tad bit generic when talking about stacking. Basically, to fit things inside that small of a package, there are some things like DRAM stacked to make space for more radios, and the PCB is thicker. I'll let Anandtech get specific: AnandTech - LG Optimus 2X & NVIDIA Tegra 2 Review: The First Dual-Core Smartphone
In the smartphone space, the integration is even more pronounced. With physical space and power as major constraints, smartphone chip makers have been forced to further trade performance for integration. The level of integration is so high within a smartphone that you almost never hear about what CPU a phone uses, but rather what Application Processor it uses otherwise known as an SoC (System on Chip or System on a Chip).
Package on Package (DRAM on top, SoC on bottom)—source: statschippack.com
Integrate a CPU, GPU, memory controller, video decoder, audio decoder, video encoder (sometimes), camera processor, system memory and maybe even a modem onto a single chip and you’ve got something that can only be described as a System on a Chip. It’s a single physical chip that integrates nearly all of the functions of the entire computer. Nearly all of the aforementioned components are on a single piece of silicon, with the exception of any integrated memory. To save board real estate and enable smaller form factors, it’s not uncommon to stack DRAM on top of the SoC package instead of beside it. The SoC in a PoP (Package on Package) stack has contacts on its top surface that line up with the balls on the DRAM for power and signaling. PoP stacks work because the SoC underneath doesn’t dissipate much heat and thus doesn’t mind being insulated by some DRAM up top.
If we look at the Thunderbolt's thickness, it's because they packed in dual radios (for 3G data & voice) plus an LTE radio:
So the PCB had to be longer, making the device have to be thicker in order to include the battery over the top of the PCB, instead of alongside it.
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PolyOlefin
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This remains to be seen. The SII is the cream of the Android crop at the moment. A lot of Droid-ers like myself, whose contracts are expiring about now, will probably get the SII because of its impeccable reviews, and impatience. By the time the Bionic rolls around, it'll be snapping up new customers but not too many renewals.
I have a feeling the ad campaign for the Bionic will be huge, and most mainstream consumers that don't follow these types of boards know the Motorola brand. I think that makes the Bionic a more mainstream phone than the Galaxy S II, but as you said it remains to be seen.
Brandon
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NittanyLion4life
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More and more rumors popping up about an August 12th release for the SGII....still some confusion over the name. But it is seeming more and more feasible guys......
Verizon Samsung Galaxy S2 Beats Sprint & AT&T To Stores, Available August 12?
Verizon Samsung Galaxy S2 Beats Sprint & AT&T To Stores, Available August 12?
This is a load of B.S. based on nothing. Call me crazy be we haven't seen anything about the Verizon GS2 passing any FCC testing. Less than 10 days away from launch and no screenshots or pictures or anything? The GS2 is not coming out for Verizon in August. Even if by some miracle they do rush one out it's not going to have an LTE radio in it. We'll just have to wait for the Bionic and be happy with whatever hardware is in it.