I'm not trying to be a jerk but why in the world would you give ANYONE that level of access to your phone? Or will you just defend Google to any length as you just did? I'm sorry but the idea that google can come into my phone without my knowledge makes me really upset. No it wasn't explained to me, I'm damned well sure many others didn't understand that google had carte blanche into my or their phones. I'm mad that other people are defending what I feel is indefensible.
It is a shame you had to edit this post before I was able to respond. Your original "Are you high?" comment at the beginning was the funniest post of 2011 so far. I seriously laughed myself to sleep to that one.
Now to address the rest of your comment.
I really do have to question your grasp of what is consider intrusive. Since you are using a Droid X, I can safely surmise that you are a in the US. Which means at any given moment, the IRS knows exactly how much you have made so far in your lifetime, if you have a job. Your city, county, state and federal governments have your social security number on file as well as a detailed history of every interaction you have ever had with those agencies. If you have any banking instruments such as checks, debit card or credit cards, the issuing agencies have a history of every financial transaction you have ever made.
Please tell me how Google having the ability to remove an app from your phone is more intrusive than what I have stated. Because if you aren't complaining about the above, you really should quit complaining about Google.
Since when does a manufacture have the responsibility to spoon feed you the hows, whens and whys of their products? They provide documentation for a reason. You are responsible for reading it. You have no one to blame but yourself for the lack of knowledge.
I see you have liberty rom, so do I. What are the words written below the Liberty logo as your sig tag? Before you come in here metoo'ing how many proprietary google apps have you deleted or had modified in the course of theming a rom or installing a rom for that matter. And then you defend another poster's saying I should accept that google knows whats best for me, in saying I should read google's TOS? Please, I love my android phone, but you guys who obviously like your android phones too are saying you understood google had a backdoor they can use at anytime? I mean really, isn't this the first kind of thing you would try and disable?
And trying to lump in dumb and dumber by saying apple and ms do it doesn't make it right. That a logical fallacy people have learned in grade school.
Where to begin with that response. The United States Library of Congress has on file that you are now legally allowed to "Jail Break" your phone so that you may modify it as you see fit as long as you do not break any other laws. It was modification introduced to the DMCA recently. That means he has the right to modify his phone as he sees fit. IE theme it.
And please don't try to use the "doesn't make it right" argument here. Because you forgot the second part of that lesson that you learned in grade school. The consumer can buy a different product if they are not pleased with the manufactures work or business practices. Which means you only have yourself to blame if you continue to use the phone.
Would you happen to know if it is based on the market app? I pretty much side load everything I use. Would you have any advice on what attributes the package would be using while looking at all the packages in package manager? Possibly the RemoveAssetReciever attribute?
This is where I have a question. Why do you "side load" everything? Since the Droid X is sold for use on the Verizon Wireless network, it comes pre-installed with the market app. This should have every app ever published to the Google market place. Now it does filter it for your version of Android and your devices capabilities. But that shouldn't be a major issue.
Now there is an assumption I can make. You are pirating applications that are for sale on the Google Market. This practice would then justify your concern of Google's ability to remove apps from your phone that you have installed. Because basically they could remove everything you have stolen if you are in fact pirating the software applications.
If this scenario is the case. Your arguments just lost all value for a logical discussion.
tearlach2 said:
I didn't have the droidx when the guy made the two test programs, I only read about that earlier today on tomshardware. And really, I'd like full disclosure about what exactly they can see, and delete without my knowledge.
I believe we have already covered that that answer is available if you should like to take the time to read all the legal documents.
Frankly I'm astonished by the support of this and it makes me wonder. I'm astonished by people saying I should be thanking google for this, rather than helping me figure out how to disable this, I'm not asking for advice on how to thank google, I'm sure I can figure out where to send that email.
Google can keep this for the sheep, I just want to disable it on my phone. I want to be sure Google cannot erase a program, whether I am stupid or not. And I'm not trying to be a contrarian, but that viewpoint of wait and see is basically the blueprint of every bad scenario in human history.
EDIT: I guess I should be more clear on what kind of things I like. I like to have a phone that can go on the internet. I like to have a phone that can send and recieve SMS. I like a phone that can run Dalvik VM Java apps. But I don't like a phone that can have apps I have installed on it taken off without my knowledge or other things on the OS side messed with. Putting the phone in Airplane mode to prevent Google from deleting apps or otherwise rummaging through it is also something though which I do not like.
I am astonished that you haven't taken the time to read a legal document that you have agreed to abide by when you activated the phone. That right there should bother you more than anything else you or anyone else has said. You the consumer had the power to be proactive and you failed to exercise your rights. Because you failed to exercise your rights and because you blindly signed off on the legal documents, you have left your self with no recourse except to sell the phone and move on.
