HTC Locking bootloaders?

[carlz28]

Here's my final $0.02 on the boot loader issue.
I preach this and live it in my daily life in just about every aspect I can think of.


In every situation, you have 3 options:
1. Accept it
2. Change it
3. Leave



It's as simple as that.
Carry on....nothing more to see folks.

 

[jkhonea]

Its not so much doom and gloom as a principal thing. Android was supposed to be open, but is becoming closed. Encryption is the next step for HTC. So its not far off. Only time will tell.

Sent from somewhere...

That's my thought as well.

See we can agree

Sent from somewhere...

I am very agreeable, thank you. :rofl2:

 

[13th angel]

Some people have been trying to change it, not having much luck so far and when there finally is they can just change the keys for it and have to start again. It makes sense from a, manufacturers perspective to lock it down so they aren't having to replace them for something we do but it still makes everyone that actually mods mad at them that we can't do a think about it,

Sent from my Liberated D2G

 

[jkhonea]

Here's my final $0.02 on the boot loader issue.
I preach this and live it in my daily life in just about every aspect I can think of.


In every situation, you have 3 options:
1. Accept it
2. Change it
3. Leave



It's as simple as that.
Carry on....nothing more to see folks.

Well, ummm, thanks, that is kind of what we were discussing I thought.

 

[pc747]

Here's my final $0.02 on the boot loader issue.
I preach this and live it in my daily life in just about every aspect I can think of.


In every situation, you have 3 options:
1. Accept it
2. Change it
3. Leave



It's as simple as that.
Carry on....nothing more to see folks.

We are working on changing it because my next step will be to go back to the fruit.

 

[cereal killer]

Give it time poontab. All good things come to an end.

Droid--->ether--->this thread

 

[13th angel]

Here's my final $0.02 on the boot loader issue.
I preach this and live it in my daily life in just about every aspect I can think of.


In every situation, you have 3 options:
1. Accept it
2. Change it
3. Leave



It's as simple as that.
Carry on....nothing more to see folks.

We are working on changing it because my next step will be to go back to the fruit.

Sad thing is, your not even close to the only one..... atleast when you jailbreak an iphone you know what you can do with it. With getting root on android its a tossup between models of if you can do certain things yet (ie custom kernels on some but not others).

Sent from my Liberated D2G

 

[Dj Carpenter]

See, I would think that locking it down would make messing the phone up easier. I could be completely wrong since I'm not the most knowledgeable in that area of the phone. But, like I said, I would think it would be easier to break considering you'd have to experiment with it a lot more than you would if it were unlocked. I think there are less bricks now than there would be.

Kind of repetitive haha

 

[dfuser312553]

I give up! I don't know if what has changed. Everything coming from the carriers & manufacturers has been crap news for modding for a while now & HTC doing the same thing they always do seems to me like a good thing for the dev community. 30 minutes banging ADB for unlock & root? Sign me up

Note the above post. The locks are evolving. Meaning they are moving forward to try to lock them down more. At the rate they are going it is only a matter of time before they lock them down entirely.

Oh yeah! You have a Dinc. Tell me if this looks like the difficulty has increased/decreased/same from when Dinc first got S-OFF (about a month after release).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292

 

[13th angel]

See, I would think that locking it down would make messing the phone up easier. I could be completely wrong since I'm not the most knowledgeable in that area of the phone. But, like I said, I would think it would be easier to break considering you'd have to experiment with it a lot more than you would if it were unlocked. I think there are less bricks now than there would be.

Kind of repetitive haha

Nope, because when its locked down we CAN'T do anything to mess it up. Its pretty hard to actually brick a droid anyways but it is possible.... just ask p3droid. With unlocked it would be easy to flash say a kernel that doesn't agree with the phone (such as too high oc'd) and break the hardware.

Sent from my Liberated D2G

 

[dfuser312553]

See, I would think that locking it down would make messing the phone up easier. I could be completely wrong since I'm not the most knowledgeable in that area of the phone. But, like I said, I would think it would be easier to break considering you'd have to experiment with it a lot more than you would if it were unlocked. I think there are less bricks now than there would be.

Kind of repetitive haha

Nope, because when its locked down we CAN'T do anything to mess it up. Its pretty hard to actually brick a droid anyways but it is possible.... just ask p3droid. With unlocked it would be easy to flash say a kernel that doesn't agree with the phone (such as too high oc'd) and break the hardware.

Lawlz like this guy who was a Google search away from flashing D1 kernels on a Dinc. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ng-download-p3droid-1200mhz-7slot-kernel.html

 

[13th angel]

See, I would think that locking it down would make messing the phone up easier. I could be completely wrong since I'm not the most knowledgeable in that area of the phone. But, like I said, I would think it would be easier to break considering you'd have to experiment with it a lot more than you would if it were unlocked. I think there are less bricks now than there would be.

Kind of repetitive haha

Nope, because when its locked down we CAN'T do anything to mess it up. Its pretty hard to actually brick a droid anyways but it is possible.... just ask p3droid. With unlocked it would be easy to flash say a kernel that doesn't agree with the phone (such as too high oc'd) and break the hardware.

Lawlz like this guy who was a Google search away from flashing D1 kernels on a Dinc. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ng-download-p3droid-1200mhz-7slot-kernel.html

LMAO! That just proves my point though.

Sent from my Liberated D2G

 

[dfuser312553]

Nope, because when its locked down we CAN'T do anything to mess it up. Its pretty hard to actually brick a droid anyways but it is possible.... just ask p3droid. With unlocked it would be easy to flash say a kernel that doesn't agree with the phone (such as too high oc'd) and break the hardware.

Lawlz like this guy who was a Google search away from flashing D1 kernels on a Dinc. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ng-download-p3droid-1200mhz-7slot-kernel.html

LMAO! That just proves my point though.

I finally have someone to agree with

 

[carlz28]

As long as I can get root access, thats more than enough options for me.
I don't really care about the million and one modules you can load with a custom kernel.
Turning my phone into a server or transmitting data to the sun isn't what a phone is supposed to do. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.
If my phone works as advertised..then I have absolutely no legitimate reason to complain.

Now with that said...my phone working "as advertised"....that is a WHOLE OTHER discussion lol.

 

[Martin030908]

I just want root... the rest I can live with.