ics coming soon for razr?

[bsweetness]

Somebody made a very valid point on another thread that if Motorola is indeed planning on releasing the RAZR HD then commom sense dictates we wont see the update until that device is released (probably a month after). Wouldn't Moto want to entice buyers to that device by it having ICS? It makes sense business wise.

So the original timeframe that was reported in January of June/July is very likely.

Actually, common sense does not dictate that. In fact, common sense dictates just the opposite.

If the RAZR/MAXX had ICS now, practically no one in the general public will buy either now over the HD later just because it already has ICS. Likewise, next to no one no one will buy the HD later over the RAZR/MAXX later just because of ICS. Anyone looking at the RAZR/MAXX after the HD drops is looking for a cheaper price, not the most up to date OS.

Most people will buy one or the other based on three things - 1) Marketing, 2) Price, and to a lesser extent 3) Specs (which typically plays into the marketing). People that frequent forums like this are in the minority when it comes to knowledge of OS versions and updates. All most people want is a phone that works.

In actuality, if ICS was a big selling point, Verizon would want it on the RAZR/MAXX as soon as possible in order to sell more before the HD drops. They're concerned about selling the stock they have on hand now, which is why they try to keep future releases quiet. They don't want customers waiting several months. They want them buying as soon as possible. Once the HD drops, it will be tougher to get people to buy the RAZR/MAXX since there will be a new kid on the block. But OS version is really not really much of a selling point beyond a small group of users. It's not even enough to give the Galaxy Nexus a prime marketing spot as far as Verizon is concerned, nor is it enough for the Galaxy Nexus to put up big sales numbers. It doesn't come down to the OS version for most people at all.

The only way it would make sense is if there's a major new, exclusive feature being included in the ICS update for the RAZR/MAXX, but they want to officially launch it on the HD. ICS itself wouldn't be such an exclusive feature since Verizon has already had the Galaxy Nexus, the first phone with ICS, for awhile. And if there is some great new feature, it's not included in either of the leaked ICS updates. So perhaps the reason for the delay is the addition of new features? That also brings something else to mind - the version of Webtop included in the leaks was marked as a beta, so they might be continuing to add features there. That might play into the delay and the desire for an official launch on a new device before pushing the update to other devices. They completely overhauled Webtop to be more tablet-like, so perhaps Motorola is planning a big push in that direction with the HD (maybe with a PadFone-like tablet in the future?). But of course, all of that is just pure speculation.

 

[bacK_N_87]

Of course!!!

 

[FoxKat]

There is now a fix if you bricked on the new ics leak .84 or .85 it will unbrick you but you still will be on whatever leak you installed.

How about sharing that info here for others? :hail:

 

[94lt1]

Actually, common sense does not dictate that. In fact, common sense dictates just the opposite.

If the RAZR/MAXX had ICS now, practically no one in the general public will buy either now over the HD later just because it already has ICS. Likewise, next to no one no one will buy the HD later over the RAZR/MAXX later just because of ICS. Anyone looking at the RAZR/MAXX after the HD drops is looking for a cheaper price, not the most up to date OS.

Most people will buy one or the other based on three things - 1) Marketing, 2) Price, and to a lesser extent 3) Specs (which typically plays into the marketing). People that frequent forums like this are in the minority when it comes to knowledge of OS versions and updates. All most people want is a phone that works.

In actuality, if ICS was a big selling point, Verizon would want it on the RAZR/MAXX as soon as possible in order to sell more before the HD drops. They're concerned about selling the stock they have on hand now, which is why they try to keep future releases quite. They don't want customers waiting several months. They want them buying as soon as possible. Once the HD drops, it will be tougher to get people to buy the RAZR/MAXX since there will be a new kid on the block. But OS version is really not really much of a selling point beyond a small group of users. It's not even enough to give the Galaxy Nexus a prime marketing spot as far as Verizon is concerned, nor is it enough for the Galaxy Nexus to put up big sales numbers. It doesn't come down to the OS version for most people at all.

The only way it would make sense is if there's a major new, exclusive feature being included in the ICS update for the RAZR/MAXX, but they want to officially launch it on the HD. ICS itself wouldn't be such an exclusive feature since Verizon has already had the Galaxy Nexus, the first phone with ICS, for awhile. And if there is some great new feature, it's not included in either of the leaked ICS updates. So perhaps the reason for the delay is the addition of new features? That also brings something else to mind - the version of Webtop included in the leaks was marked as a beta, so they might be continuing to add features there. That might play into the delay and the desire for an official launch on a new device before pushing the update to other devices. They completely overhauled Webtop to be more tablet-like, so perhaps Motorola is planning a big push in that direction with the HD (maybe with a PadFone-like tablet in the future?). But of course, all of that is just pure speculation.

Depending on the business model that they hope to achieve, your theory can be both genius, and suicide. EDIT: rather a very bad decision.

Since we're talking about vzw and moto, it can also be a mix of the two. Your theory is plausible. Infact you may be onto something. I've been thinking for a while that there's more to the release of the HD and ICS being so slow to drop. Otherwise it makes no sense to release a maxx with a slightly better screen with ICS. But its something moto and vzw could likely do.

Except that the hunger they've been able to create for ICS could drive sales for that phone through the roof, but the maxx has been a huge money maker for them..... and as soon as the HD drops, so will the price and demand for the maxx. As you stated of course. The thing we can't speculate on is the X factor here. The proverbial ace up their sleeves that we have no clue about. If indeed there is one, and if they aren't trying to get the market in a frenzy.

So I'm very interested to see what vzw and moto have up their sleeves. Or are we perhaps going to be shocked over the lack of forethought we thought we were going to see??

DROID RAZR MAXXAMIZED!!!

 

[William_04_x]

Will the HD have a battery like the Maxx? If not, the Maxx will still have strong sales, ICS or not. These devices flat out rock!

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX using Droid Forums

 

[bsweetness]

Depending on the business model that they hope to achieve, your theory can be both genius, and suicide.

Since we're talking about vzw and moto, it can also be a mix of the two. Your theory is plausible. Infact you may be onto something. I've been thinking for a while that there's more to the release of the HD and ICS being so slow to drop. Otherwise it makes no sense to release a maxx with a slightly better screen with ICS.

Except that the hunger they've been able to create for ICS could drive sales for that phone through the roof, but the maxx has been a huge money maker for them..... and as soon as the HD drops, so will the price and demand for the maxx. As you stated of course. The thing we can't speculate on is the X factor here. The proverbial ace up their sleeves that we have no clue about.

So I'm very interested to see what vzw and moto have up their sleeves. Or are we perhaps going to be shocked over the lack of forethought we thought we were going to see??

DROID RAZR MAXXAMIZED!!!

I really don't think they've driven a hunger for ICS. Among the users here and on similar forums and websites, sure. We've all had a hunger for ICS since it was announced. But the general public has no idea what Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich are. So, I honestly don't see how ICS would drive up sales for the HD. It hasn't driven up sales for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. The only thing that will drive up sales for the HD is the right marketing, and that can work regardless of the OS version and regardless of if other phones have that OS version. Verizon has been able to the push the RAZR and RAZR MAXX well beyond the Galaxy Nexus because of marketing (and a physical feature every smartphone should have in the case of the MAXX - the battery). If people think they're getting the best phone, or the coolest phone, they'll buy it no matter what it has or doesn't have. People who frequent forums like this typically won't fall into that persuasion since they're looking for much more. But the general public will.

So for the sales of the HD, I don't see ICS as much of a selling point. While we know the OS is greatly improved from Gingerbread, there aren't any visible standout features for the masses. With ICS, it's mostly under the hood, besides the cosmetic differences (which will be altered/hidden by Motorola's skin). There's nothing like Siri on the iPhone to market as the coolest thing around (even though Siri is actually a beta product that worked maybe half the time when I had a 4S). But there's no single thing to pull from ICS like that as a unique and completely different feature. The only way ICS will matter on the HD is if Motorola has, as you put it, an ace up their sleeve with an exclusive feature that will also be brought to the RAZR/MAXX (because if it's not being brought to the RAZR/MAXX, then holding the ICS update until after the HD again makes no sense). In that situation, I could understand holding the RAZR/MAXX ICS update until after the HD. Short of that, there's really no good reason to delay releasing it if they have a stable build that's ready for distribution.

But of course, both Motorola and Verizon constantly do things that make no sense. :huh:

 

[bsweetness]

Will the HD have a battery like the Maxx? If not, the Maxx will still have strong sales, ICS or not. These devices flat out rock!

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX using Droid Forums

I've read rumors that have gone both ways, with the most recent ones saying it will have a battery like the MAXX. But of course, everything to do with the HD is nothing but speculation right now.

 

[94lt1]

Will the HD have a battery like the Maxx? If not, the Maxx will still have strong sales, ICS or not. These devices flat out rock!

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX using Droid Forums

The HD is rumored to be a maxx with a slightly better screen, and I think the processor is a bit faster. Other than that, they are rumored to be similar.

The home row is also different. There are 3 buttons on the HD, and they are rumored to act like the nexus.

DROID RAZR MAXXAMIZED!!!

 

[94lt1]

I really don't think they've driven a hunger for ICS. Among the users here and on similar forums and websites, sure. We've all had a hunger for ICS since it was announced. But the general public has no idea what Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich are. So, I honestly don't see how ICS would drive up sales for the HD. It hasn't driven up sales for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. The only thing that will drive up sales for the HD is the right marketing, and that can work regardless of the OS version and regardless of if other phones have that OS version. Verizon has been able to the push the RAZR and RAZR MAXX well beyond the Galaxy Nexus because of marketing (and a physical feature every smartphone should have in the case of the MAXX - the battery). If people think they're getting the best phone, or the coolest phone, they'll buy it no matter what it has or doesn't have. People who frequent forums like this typically won't fall into that persuasion since they're looking for much more. But the general public will.

So for the sales of the HD, I don't see ICS as much of a selling point. While we know the OS is greatly improved from Gingerbread, there aren't any visible standout features for the masses. With ICS, it's mostly under the hood, besides the cosmetic differences (which will be altered/hidden by Motorola's skin). There's nothing like Siri on the iPhone to market as the coolest thing around (even though Siri is actually a beta product that worked maybe half the time when I had a 4S). But there's no single thing to pull from ICS like that as a unique and completely different feature. The only way ICS will matter on the HD is if Motorola has, as you put id, an ace up their sleeve with an exclusive feature that will also be brought to the RAZR/MAXX (because if it's not being brought to the RAZR/MAXX, then holding the ICS update until after the HD again makes no sense). In that situation, I could understand holding the RAZR/MAXX ICS update until after the HD. Short of that, there's really no good reason to delay releasing it if they have what they feel is a stable build that's ready for distribution.

But of course, both Motorola and Verizon constantly do thing that make no sense. :huh:

I was going to make the same point about the general public not knowing the difference in the OS's.

But here's a factor that you touched on, the people who want the latest greatest thing. Most of the time with electronics.. its us men lol. How many here have actually kept a phone for over 6 months?? Or am I the spoiled brat here?? I can't be, there are people here that claim to have 80,000+$ cars. So i imagine I can't be lol.

I'm with you on this though, so lets sit back and watch this unfold, it could prove educational, in a comedic or business fashion.... depending on which way they swing the ax. Just be prepared to duck... after all, you never know how well the handle is or isn't attached!! Lmao

DROID RAZR MAXXAMIZED!!!

Also, I agree whole hearted about the marketing angle having to be handled in a very specific way for the HD to be highly sought after. But.... stranger things have happened. However I would assume that if that where their approach, they would already be teasing this new device.

So chances are indeed there's some gimmick... or angle...

 

[Hail]

A little off subject here, I love the Maxx this is my first Motorola.... with that being said I will never by a device without a extended battery again.... this should be the norm now! !! I dont have to walk around with another battery in my pocket or do I buy a 3rd party extended that makes my phone look like some fat chick!!!! I'm not worried about root, there is Foxfi now!!!! Not the only reason to root but would be for me.....

Straight off my hip from the Maxx

 

[tkileh]

A little off subject here, I love the Maxx this is my first Motorola.... with that being said I will never by a device without a extended battery again.... this should be the norm now! !! I dont have to walk around with another battery in my pocket or do I buy a 3rd party extended that makes my phone look like some fat chick!!!! I'm not worried about root, there is Foxfi now!!!! Not the only reason to root but would be for me.....

Straight off my hip from the Maxx

+1

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[destriyer751]

ICS Coming To The Razr Soon!

I know there have been several posts already about this topic, but I just thought I would share this with you guys...

I came across this while on Twitter....... So hopefully May 21st like the rumors are saying...If not maybe by the end of June!

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[yaterml]

How would that make sense business wise to screw your loyal customers.

I think they did that to everyone who bought a Bionic. So I wouldn't put it past them.

 

[poncedeleon]

I don't know if you guys have seen this, but https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

ICS for the Razr is still in phase 1, of Evaluation & Planning. Phase 1 out of 4. It still has quite a long way, and I don't see it being released in June or July. That's just my two cents, but who knows when we will officially get ICS.

 

[jch81]

I don't know if you guys have seen this, but https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

ICS for the Razr is still in phase 1, of Evaluation & Planning. Phase 1 out of 4. It still has quite a long way, and I don't see it being released in June or July. That's just my two cents, but who knows when we will officially get ICS.

check the date. That was last updated in Feb. My feeling is that it is close