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Locked Bootloader?

That's definitely not for me. I like having a compact, portable, single device that runs all day on its own. I don't want to have to carry extra things 'just in case.'

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That's definitely not for me. I like having a compact, portable, single device that runs all day on its own. I don't want to have to carry extra things 'just in case.'

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oh i understand that i meant more for travel things like that. i have high capacity laptop batteries and it would be nice to power the families devices on the airplane with this. i wasnt thinking for a daily driver although i always have my laptop with me its part of my job so for me it would work fine. i did look around and found a few "power blocks" that are not much bigger then a spare battery if needed so that would be a nice option to carry
now that i think about it and i dont have the cable to check it. i have the spare battery charger for the og droid...i wonder if i got a min usb to mini usb if i could reverse the connection and cause it to charge devices rather then charge batteries... that would be awesome. i have 4 or 5 batteries, but honestly i never swap i just put it on the car charger.
 
That's definitely not for me. I like having a compact, portable, single device that runs all day on its own. I don't want to have to carry extra things 'just in case.'

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When you find an Android phone like that, please post it in the News section. Everyone would love an Android phone that ran at least all day on a single charge. I would too. Playing Word Fued, watching a 20 minute show at lunch, checking twitter, facebook, google+, etc., really runs down my battery. It use to only go down around 10% when I watched a show at lunch, now it's about 20% (my battery widget only shows 10% incriments).

Until then I carry an extra charger "just in case".

ETA: Like this example in the News section Motorola Planning a 24 Hour Battery Longevity Event For the Droid RAZR Maxx?

Of course those of us on this Droid 4 section are looking at a physical keyboard phone... I really like my physical keyboard, although I've used my dads SGII and it's not bad without one.
 
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There are Android phones that last a full day. My Inc 2 lasted about 20 hrs.

On the bootloader...I hate it. My Bionic is definitely my last Moto device if they don't unlock/unecrypt the bootloader. That being said, if one doesn't care about root and mods, Moto makes some pretty solid nice phones. They are usually pretty good out of box.

Side note: Samsung just plain sucks at life. I have owned their garbage phones before. Looks like HTC for me in the future.
 
Ok guys, not to be rude or anything, but if you need/want a battery comparison, its quite easy to start a new topic. I don't really care about the "gnex trolls", nor do I want to know about how bright the screen is on a Droid 3. Sorry to come off as rude, but this thread has exploded with irrelevant chatter about offtopic discussion.

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Ok guys, not to be rude or anything, but if you need/want a battery comparison, its quite easy to start a new topic. I don't really care about the "gnex trolls", nor do I want to know about how bright the screen is on a Droid 3. Sorry to come off as rude, but this thread has exploded with irrelevant chatter about offtopic discussion.

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Welp...guess you should probably do some research for yourself like a big person and find out about the bootlader on your own! Not to come off as rude or anything...

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Welp...guess you should probably do some research for yourself like a big person and find out about the bootlader on your own! Not to come off as rude or anything...

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I am doing research? I'm asking the android community if anyone has any information.

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Also...what makes the difference?! The phone hasn't been released anyways

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Alright, I'm not trying to insult you, or demean you, but a locked bootloader means less freedom when hacking or modding a phone. Motorola is notorious for locking their bootloaders, and thus restricted what the end user can do. Why does this matter to me? Because I want a phone I can have as much freedom as possible with. And I think most would agree with me when I say that being able to use a product you paid a sizable about of money for as you want to is pretty crucial to the process of deciding if its the corrrect fit for you. One of my criteria for buying a phone is being able to load ROMs on it. Its a personal preference, and I do not advise nor condem anyone who veiws things differently in that area.

I asked this also because I believe motorola locking the bootloader on their phone is more of a way to restrict their product to force it to function a certain way, without much freedom on the consumer end. Therefore, with that idea in mind, if I can confirm this phone does have a locked bootloader, I will stop support motorola, and take my business to another company that does allow for unlocking the bootloader.

If that doesn't answer your question, I can explain further. And please, don't take any of this sarcastically, or me trying to be a you know what. I just figured if I typed it all out, maybe we can both be on the same page. I imagine you have some interest in the Droid 4 yourself, since you have posted on this topic?

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Alright, I'm not trying to insult you, or demean you, but a locked bootloader means less freedom when hacking or modding a phone. Motorola is notorious for locking their bootloaders, and thus restricted what the end user can do. Why does this matter to me? Because I want a phone I can have as much freedom as possible with. And I think most would agree with me when I say that being able to use a product you paid a sizable about of money for as you want to is pretty crucial to the process of deciding if its the corrrect fit for you. One of my criteria for buying a phone is being able to load ROMs on it. Its a personal preference, and I do not advise nor condem anyone who veiws things differently in that area.

I asked this also because I believe motorola locking the bootloader on their phone is more of a way to restrict their product to force it to function a certain way, without much freedom on the consumer end. Therefore, with that idea in mind, if I can confirm this phone does have a locked bootloader, I will stop support motorola, and take my business to another company that does allow for unlocking the bootloader.

If that doesn't answer your question, I can explain further. And please, don't take any of this sarcastically, or me trying to be a you know what. I just figured if I typed it all out, maybe we can both be on the same page. I imagine you have some interest in the Droid 4 yourself, since you have posted on this topic?

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Wow...apparently you completely missed me mocking you. I know full well what a bootloader is all about and Motorola being notorious for locking them down. I am interested in the D4 only for the keyboard. My point in my overly sarcastic post about why it matters...that you obviously missed...is that you can't go and purchase the phone today. There's not even an announced release date. So...I was saying...why does it matter if you ask and even get your answer...because you can't even physically go obtain the phone if you received the answer you were looking for.

Also...I could care less about the bootloader. I've rooted a few phones here and there and it lasted about half an hour. When I pay a 'sizeable amount of money,' as you say...I would actually prefer to enjoy it directly out of the box as is and not want something I 'need' to monkey around with to get it like I want it. It's just a cell phone...imphasis on the PHONE.

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Wow...apparently you completely missed me mocking you. I know full well what a bootloader is all about and Motorola being notorious for locking them down. I am interested in the D4 only for the keyboard. My point in my overly sarcastic post about why it matters...that you obviously missed...is that you can't go and purchase the phone today. There's not even an announced release date. So...I was saying...why does it matter if you ask and even get your answer...because you can't even physically go obtain the phone if you received the answer you were looking for.

Also...I could care less about the bootloader. I've rooted a few phones here and there and it lasted about half an hour. When I pay a 'sizeable amount of money,' as you say...I would actually prefer to enjoy it directly out of the box as is and not want something I 'need' to monkey around with to get it like I want it. It's just a cell phone...imphasis on the PHONE.

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No, I didn't miss that, I just gave you the benefit of the doubt that your weren't that immature. But to each their own. You use your phone your way, and ill use mine my way. And I hope you can just agree to disagree with me.

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ok so back to the bootloader......

Motorola has promised to unlock the bootloaders in "future software releases" starting in late 2011. although we havent seen the bootloaders being unlocked, we havent seen any software updates at all, so I'm not going to be too quick to judge. the only bootloader that is unlocked currently is the motorola xoom. this information, along with the files that unlock/relock the bootloader for the Moto Xoom are found here: MOTODEV > Products > Device Software

But on the other hand, there is a good chance that verizon will not allow most, if not all devices in the future to be unlocked. but it may not be that hard to unlock the vzw version of a RAZR, for example, if the international versions are unlocked
 
ok so back to the bootloader......

Motorola has promised to unlock the bootloaders in "future software releases" starting in late 2011. although we havent seen the bootloaders being unlocked, we havent seen any software updates at all, so I'm not going to be too quick to judge. the only bootloader that is unlocked currently is the motorola xoom. this information, along with the files that unlock/relock the bootloader for the Moto Xoom are found here: MOTODEV > Products > Device Software

But on the other hand, there is a good chance that verizon will not allow most, if not all devices in the future to be unlocked. but it may not be that hard to unlock the vzw version of a RAZR, for example, if the international versions are unlocked

There have been updates. The Razr and Bionic both received software updates in late 2011.

The international versions use a different baseband and kernel I believe which may not provide what cdma developers need to crack the encrypted bootloader.
 
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