My only gripe with this phone is the Speaker Volume...

[ripper2860]

Jeez, are you trying to de-throne me for the longest posts?:what:...

If you had been de-throned, I think you recaptured it with your response post. .

 

[94lt1]

Jeez, are you trying to de-throne me for the longest posts?:what:

By the way, the speakers in this phone are as you say...tiny. In fact, the are likely the smallest of their kind on any smart phone. That's good and bad. Size is the obvious good, frequency range and overall ability to move air (to create volume in the sound) are the bads.

You are right that this uses a very strong magnet (motor) relative to it's size, but I'll respectfully disagree about one comment. I believe great attention to design engineering and quality control were placed on these simply because of how small and yet how well they perform given the tiny space in which they have to work.

The engineers used a miniscule amount of case space inside the "bump" or "chin" (thicker top portion which houses the speaker, earpiece, two cameras, flash, proximity sensor, LED, and God knows what else is squeezed into that tiny space), to create a bit of a "bass reflex" cabinet, an acoustic suspension system for the speaker to both enhance bass response for more natural, warmer voice and audio, and to further increase volume. The space used was captured around the back and front with a tiny foam rubber grommet seal. It's very innovative in my mind, rather than molding the space into the case which would require a thicker phone form factor.

The diaphragm is not paper, but a clear Mylar which is rather stuff and tears easily if attempts to remove the case back are not done properly and the spudger (pry tool) happens to hit it. The size of the transducer (speaker) is not incredibly small by headphone standards, in-ear ear buds, especially high end ones, can have upto three separate miniature transducers in a space far smaller than this. The real problems are the proximity to the ear drum, relatively far from it on the front (versus extremely close in the case of ear buds), and distant in the case of the speaker on the back, and the lack of a good acoustic coupling to the ear canal (sealed as in ear buds or over-ear headphones versus open-air as in on-ear headphones).

For comparison, take a good set of headphones which likely has a considerably larger transducer and turn up the volume while not on your head, then hold it at the typical distance you hold your phone and notice how poorly the sound transmits and the lack of quality in the sound (frequency range).

What the accomplish with that tiny transducer is truly amazing in my book, but it can be scratchy at maximum volume due to being overdriven. Is it loud enough, no, but to be louder it would need to be bigger and that is simply the limit to it's performance.

Also when you place the phone against your ear, if you move it around slightly to position the earpiece accurately over you ear canal the sound can be greatly improved.

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The knowledge of FoxKat is truly humbling thank you sir for making sure all was explained in great detail. And thank you for the knowledge. And I agree about the amazing technology inside these phones, except the cheap speaker material.

Can you tell.me anything about the transducers they use? Or their processes? I would love to know

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[FoxKat]

The knowledge of FoxKat is truly humbling thank you sir for making sure all was explained in great detail. And thank you for the knowledge. And I agree about the amazing technology inside these phones, except the cheap speaker material.

Can you tell.me anything about the transducers they use? Or their processes? I would love to know

DROID RAZR MAXXIMIZED!!!! XPARENT BLUE!!!

Go back and look at my original post again, I've added pics to help. I did this from the desktop since I had them stored there. Click on the pics to view close-up. :biggrin:

 

[94lt1]

Go back and look at my original post again, I've added pics to help. I did this from the desktop since I had them stored there. Click on the pics to view close-up. :biggrin:

Thank you sir!!

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[FoxKat]

Can you tell.me anything about the transducers they use? Or their processes? I would love to know

DROID RAZR MAXXIMIZED!!!! XPARENT BLUE!!!

They are really no different than most any other typical transducer, a coil over magnet structure and a suspended diaphragm.

 

[94lt1]

They are really no different than most any other typical transducer, a coil over magnet structure and a suspended diaphragm.

Again, your knowledge overwhelms me

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[FoxKat]

Again, your knowledge overwhelms me

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Stop...you're making me blush!

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[94lt1]

:d

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[mooch91]

The first and only flaw I noticed with my new Maxx was the quality of the speaker... at the highest volume and default EQ settings it was really breaking up. I turned the EQ off and it sounds much better,

 

[94lt1]

The first and only flaw I noticed with my new Maxx was the quality of the speaker... at the highest volume and default EQ settings it was really breaking up. I turned the EQ off and it sounds much better,

Part of that reason is that if I recall correctly, the default setting in the sounds menu is bass boost. These little speakers IMHO just don't handle bass well. Its part of what the speaker is and isn't. It does its job well for what it is, but it's a little speaker, over modulating it with bass is very easy, and with the cheap cones on them... it won't take much to tear the cone.... there have been numerous people that have found out the hard way unfortunately

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[jeverts]

Settings, Sound, Media audio effects, phone speaker, equalizer, vocalizer

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[GSdub510]

I think it sounds best with the equalizer off, but it depends what type of music.

 

[94lt1]

Settings, Sound, Media audio effects, phone speaker, equalizer, vocalizer

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Was that for external or device? I turn mine off and use Poweramps EQ and preamp

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[FoxKat]

Part of that reason is that if I recall correctly, the default setting in the sounds menu is bass boost. These little speakers IMHO just don't handle bass well. Its part of what the speaker is and isn't. It does its job well for what it is, but it's a little speaker, over modulating it with bass is very easy, and with the cheap cones on them... it won't take much to tear the cone.... there have been numerous people that have found out the hard way unfortunately

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Excellent commentary... :thumbup:

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[electricman58]

Can you tell.me anything about the transducers they use? Or their processes? I would love to know

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OMG PLEASE NO! DON'T GET HIM GOIN AGAIN!!!
Just kidding Lol! FoxKats my favorite person on here. ;-) What does he not know? Love it!!!

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