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I tend to be a contrarian. But I have a couple of problems with this change. First of all I can't afford it. I have been unemployed for several months.

Second of all I have a problem with them using information and posts that was, essentially, donated by the readers and now locking up that information as if they own it.

Third, a major appeal of the Android OS is it's openness. I understand how expensive it is to maintain and run a quality website. But I know that there are better ways to generate the necessary revenue. For example, on one forum site I use they ban all ads from eveeryone except for paying/subscribing advertisers. Second, they offer discounts on items in their store that are comparable to the discounts offered on competing sites.

Recently I was looking for a couple of accessories and so I went to the online store to see if I could make a purchase to save a few $$$s and still support the site. Nothing doing. Very disappointing.

In some ways this site is becoming a victim of itself. as it gains users it requires more work. More work requires more money. In many cases there is way too much noise for each post versus the amopunt of information offered. It has recently become quite common for a thread to grow to more than 50 or even 100 pages! There is no way that you can wade through all of that noise to find true information. When this happens, along with the charge for access to premium posts the value decreases quickly.

I am not trying to start a rebellion. Just explaining my feelings.
 
ldimick....reason #1 was fine. You didn't need to further justify. I suspect if you had the $18 all that other diatribe in point two would have not been a concern to you. :D

How many SM's we up to now?

-Mike
 
The moment I got the email, I upgraded. This site has helped me so much, I couldn't help but repay it and it's members by donating. Keep up the great work! And if you need another experienced moderator who knows VB extremely well, let me know. ;)
 
I tend to be a contrarian. But I have a couple of problems with this change. First of all I can't afford it. I have been unemployed for several months.

Second of all I have a problem with them using information and posts that was, essentially, donated by the readers and now locking up that information as if they own it.

Third, a major appeal of the Android OS is it's openness. I understand how expensive it is to maintain and run a quality website. But I know that there are better ways to generate the necessary revenue. For example, on one forum site I use they ban all ads from eveeryone except for paying/subscribing advertisers. Second, they offer discounts on items in their store that are comparable to the discounts offered on competing sites.

Recently I was looking for a couple of accessories and so I went to the online store to see if I could make a purchase to save a few $$$s and still support the site. Nothing doing. Very disappointing.

In some ways this site is becoming a victim of itself. as it gains users it requires more work. More work requires more money. In many cases there is way too much noise for each post versus the amopunt of information offered. It has recently become quite common for a thread to grow to more than 50 or even 100 pages! There is no way that you can wade through all of that noise to find true information. When this happens, along with the charge for access to premium posts the value decreases quickly.

I am not trying to start a rebellion. Just explaining my feelings.

Hi,

Please refer back to the second post on page one from an administrator/founder:

Guys, I just wanted to add. Some sites offer a "Premium Area" of the site, and we do not. The reason why is we want this program to be completely voluntary. We don't want any member to miss out on any information, we don't want you to have to pay to feel like your getting the full information the site has to offer. That's the reason we don't have a 'secret' or 'premium' section set up here.

Hope this helps, the content of the site should not change at all.

We offer some perks and benefits but you will lose nothing if you don't choose to participate. It's entirely voluntary and up to you, as you've seen no member benefits were removed at all, we just added a small upgrade and sticker package if you choose to use it.
 
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....i learned how to use the droid because of this forum....everyone who has bought one because of me comes here....18.00 is a thank you if nothing else....DF & DROID takes you where you want to go period....i would hope moto is paying attention to this since it appears many of us would never have considered a moto product again after all the years of issues....i almost gave the droid back because it seemed like a toy and nothing more at first, then i came here about something i didn't know how to do for the hell of it and learned....really tx folks....now where's my 2.1 :icon_ devil: ha
 
Got my stickers:icon_ banana::icon_ banana::icon_ banana::icon_ banana: thanks to all admins who make this site possible. it's great.. i hope they come out with a droid 2 so we don't have to leave forums in couple years when we all do for upgrades:icon_eek:
 
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