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Report: Verizon Has Been Turning Over Call Logs for All of their Customers to the NSA
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Whether "legal" or not, it's still BS
supermandroid
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No, that's not real. The Onion is not a real news network. Everything is done for giggles.
US Constitution, The Bill of Rights, Amendment IV:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This protects us against warrantless searches. However, a Federal Judge signed the NSA request for the warrant.
The Patriot Act was created to strengthen domestic security and prevent terrorism.
This seizure was gained via the PA.
Every TELCO receiving such a subpoena MUST comply,The National Security Agency attained Verizon's customer's phone records via Section 215 of the Patriot Act.
Have other TELCOs been served? Safe to bet yes.
Blaming Verizon is silly. If our current communication providers fail or go broke, don't be surprised if the government may try to create a national communication center. Then they could control everything, including pricing, taxing, and reading your mail.
This administration is out of control. Remember when they tried to pass the MOBILE PHONE UNLOCKING BIll. We fought that here in these forums several months ago.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This protects us against warrantless searches. However, a Federal Judge signed the NSA request for the warrant.
The Patriot Act was created to strengthen domestic security and prevent terrorism.
This seizure was gained via the PA.
Every TELCO receiving such a subpoena MUST comply,The National Security Agency attained Verizon's customer's phone records via Section 215 of the Patriot Act.
Have other TELCOs been served? Safe to bet yes.
Blaming Verizon is silly. If our current communication providers fail or go broke, don't be surprised if the government may try to create a national communication center. Then they could control everything, including pricing, taxing, and reading your mail.
This administration is out of control. Remember when they tried to pass the MOBILE PHONE UNLOCKING BIll. We fought that here in these forums several months ago.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
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Thought You Should Know - Echelon spy in the sky has been doing it for years...
They monitor every single communication coming in and going out of the US .. mostly based on keywords like bomb, explosive, etc..
This is run by the National Security Agency (NSA)
They monitor every single communication coming in and going out of the US .. mostly based on keywords like bomb, explosive, etc..
This is run by the National Security Agency (NSA)
I get where you're coming from, but to be clear this order is NOT a warrant, therefore doesn't have the same rules as a warrant. A warrant is a very targeted document with a very specific scope. This is an order. Since all of the data being collected is not personally identifiable the Supreme Court ruled that it didn't require a warrant.
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Anyone remember a certain ios update to remove a certain tracing programthat was implemented without owner knowledge or ability to opt out, a couple of years back?
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Right to privacy is usually litigated from the perspective of the 4th amendment against unreasonable search and seizure as you wrote. It is a common belief and practice that that is where our right to privacy is granted.
(Soap box rant) This is an area where technology has so far surpassed the availability and even imagination of the founding fathers, it needs to be addressed in today's congress. Sadly every attempt to do so has been so mired in political corruption it seems hopeless that a true definition of electronic privacy will ever be adopted and corrupt politicians will only use it to increase their grasp for more power. The laws made yesterday only help the politicians of today and the laws of today will only help the next generation of corrupt politicians that we the people elect into office. (Coming down from soap box)
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This is true. I woke up this morning, my breakfast that I eat every morning was on the table, my dogs were fed AND walked, DF's was open on my laptop, and a fresh pot of coffee was on the counter. Compliments of who? You guessed it........Google
If you want out, you need to do more than give up your cell phone. Don't step outside your house or drive, since there are surveillance/security/red light cameras that can pick you up, don't use banks since every dollar you deposit or withdraw can be tracked, don't use credit or debit cards.
