I'll try. I have an real old plan America 450 or something like that with unlimited data for $30 extra. I still was paying almost $45 for a land line.phone. I went to the local Verizon store (apparently a preferred vendor - TCC). They had the Note 4 in stock. The deal gave me a new service with a home Verizon box which will save me $20/mo and port the land line number. Got the Note for $299 and transferred it to my old line which kept the unlimited pricing. A bit complicated but now I have 2 Verizon numbers, a new Note 4, a wireless home phone adapter (for $129 + activation) and the whole deal accomplished everything I wanted for a total of around $500 which was less than I was prepared to spend to get the Note at cost. Hope that explains it. BTW I have done nothing but play with it ALL day )about 12 hours, downloading all my apps and getting everything set up like I wanted, using the stylus and messaging, facebook tried a movie from my microsd etc and now have 66% battery left!!