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Thunderbolt vs Bionic
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guitarchris123
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@StinkyPete I do agree with you there, it will be the best phone on Verizon when it's released (Coincidentally, right after the iPhone 4, if ya know what I mean, but the point of this little write-up is to see if it will be the best phone on Verizon two months later, if not, I may have to re-think about picking one up next month.
@Johnly, I said the TB has more RAM, but that I heard that the Bionic's DDR2 RAM is supposed to read/write faster, giving them each an advantage here.
@guitarchris123 This is all what I've read/heard. You're probably right, but until it's released we won't know.
One thing's for sure, I'm definitely glad I still have my original Moto Droid, I couldn't of held out this long without the little guy.
Also @guitarchris123, again, you may be correct, but it hasn't been mentioned to be on the Bionic, and may have been overlooked with the new additions. I haven't seen it on any spec-sheets, and I'm not assuming anything when I post, so even if it was in the DX, that doesn't mean it will automatically be on the Bionic.
So, everybody, what do you plan on getting? If the Thunderbolt scores higher on Quadrant benchmark BEFORE overclocking, then it's definitely sealed for me. I've heard reports of 2150 on the TB.
Even if it doesn't, it's still pretty close and a tough decision, I think the real way to decide would be to imagine if they were both out right now, and you had the choice, which would you pick? It's difficult to answer, because until you've felt it in your own hands, you can't really decide.
The best way would be to wait till both are out, and then go test them, but some of us may be unable to wait that long.
If both came out tomorrow, I would definitely go with the Thunderbolt. I like Sense over Blur, HTC's design better, and the better rootability and developer support of HTC. The main advantage the Bionic has over the TB is the dual core processor (without having actually played with and tested both), but that won't be good for much until the software can handle it (both on the phone and on Android), which will take a while to iron out all the kinks since its such new technology and untested yet. Android is not optimized for dual core yet, and will not be until Honeycomb is released for phones, which won't be for a while yet since Gingerbread isn't even going to be on the new phones when released in the next couple of months (probably upgradeable fairly shortly after release though). It will have the most effect on gaming, and I'm not a hardcore mobile gamer by any means, so the single core of the Thunderbolt will be plenty fast for me for a long time.
I believe that the single processor of the Bolt was faster than one of the the Bionic's cores. But since the Bionic has the dual core it had a higher Quadrant score (19XX vs 22XX).
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Johnly
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Something tells me HTC is putting their duel core device towards T mo or sprint. I think the TB is only a EVO refresh. Going to pass.....
smokiedabong
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It is an EVO 4G without the HDMI
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Johnly
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It is great for sharing family pics on the spot. It is a new feature, so I wouldn't expect it to be used by the masses native. It gets used here though, but we are family/pic taken sharing fools.
Haloman800
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@Forgetful In the video I linked, the man stated it would have higher quadrant scores. I also asked cereal killer and he confirmed this. This is because quadrant (and Android OS) doesn't know how to handle Dual Core, so it can't be utilized. By the time it can, the phones will most likely be out of date, and we'll be eligible for upgrades again .
@smokiedabong Like someone else said, how often do you plan on using HDMI? My dad has a DX and he's only used it once.. To test it. The TB has DLNA, which the EVO doesn't, and if connectivity is that important to you, pick up the device coming uot for it that lets you connect it to non-DLNA enabled devices.
Everything on the Thunderbolt is an improvement over the EVO. It also has more RAM than the BIONIC, higher quadrant scores, a better screen, better cameras, a kick-stand, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I see the ThunderBolt coming out on top.
.@smokiedabong Like someone else said, how often do you plan on using HDMI? My dad has a DX and he's only used it once.. To test it. The TB has DLNA, which the EVO doesn't, and if connectivity is that important to you, pick up the device coming uot for it that lets you connect it to non-DLNA enabled devices.
Everything on the Thunderbolt is an improvement over the EVO. It also has more RAM than the BIONIC, higher quadrant scores, a better screen, better cameras, a kick-stand, etc.
The more I think about it, the more I see the ThunderBolt coming out on top.
Agree that I think that my mind is set for the TB, but at what price. Of course rumor is $250, but with ATT&T coming out with their pricing so much less whats to think? Sure TB has a couple ups on ATT&T, but really most of the phone is the same.
@Forgetful In the video I linked, the man stated it would have higher quadrant scores. I also asked cereal killer and he confirmed this. This is because quadrant (and Android OS) doesn't know how to handle Dual Core, so it can't be utilized. By the time it can, the phones will most likely be out of date, and we'll be eligible for upgrades again
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I heard in the video he said that. I also saw some article or chart showing the data for the quad scores referencing that the Bionic overall score was higher. But yes I agree that the Dual Core is not going to be higher scoring until there is an android OS that supports it. So for now the Bolt is the higher preforming phone. And who knows when we'll see a dual core OS for phones like you said. Barring something strange, I'm picking up the Bolt at release.
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This is still speculation on the Bionic end. No real specs have been released yet.. The phone is not finished yet. 512MB DDR2 Ram is faster then 756MB Ram. I have not heard that the Thunderbolt being DDR2. Motorola always comes with Micro SD Card installed so we just have to wait and see will it be 16G or 32G if it comes with 32G Micro SD then that is 48Gs the Bionic will have. Yes the front facing Camera is better then the Bionic's. But really how many of us is going to use it all the time. especially if your friends do not have the front facing camera.. All I am saying is wait until Motorola releases the full specs before speculating. I am one who do not care if my phone is locked or not.. I do not root my phones
guitarchris123
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I wanted to clear a few of these things up:
RAM - TB has more RAM (regular, not DDR2), while Bionic has better RAM (DDR2, reads/writes twice as fast as regular). It remains to be seen who will come out on top on that issue (space vs. speed).
FFC - Bolt is clear winner here, Bionic will have blurry video-chat, but how many people will really use it very often? And it won't even matter at all if you don't know anyone else with a FFC phone yet.
Kickstand - sure you can charge while video-chatting, but what about while watching a video? Nope. I guess HTC somehow thought video chat functionality was more important than watching videos/movies.
MicroSD card - the X came with a 16gig, so I imagine the Bionic will too. Still, that leaves the TB with 40 gig out of the box and the Bionic with 32.
Simultaneous talk/data - this feature will be possible on the TB, but not a selling point (according to internal documents) because users will not get the same quality Verizon experience while using it (which makes me think it will be a little sketchy at times). Also, it remains to be seen whether the Bionic will have this or not. It has not been rumored yet, but it is certainly possible.
FM radio - while the Bionic is not rumored to have one yet, the X had one so I'm confident the Bionic will too.
External speaker - the TB's will be big and probably louder and sound better, but the Bionic will still have a speaker (just not as visible and big as the TB's)
DLNA - the X had DLNA, so I suspect the Bionic will too. Its probably just becoming a standard feature on Moto phones, so not listed in early spec sheets yet. Thus, it will most likely be able to do both DLNA and HDMI.
Bootloader - both phones will have "locked" bootloaders, but the Bolt will get permanent root from the developer community, while the Bionic will not. This makes the HTC phone much more "hacker-friendly." This only becomes an issue if you want to root and put custom roms on your phone, etc. If you are not into that techy stuff, then this is a non-issue.
Clocking/cores - the Bolt beat each core individually of the Bionic, but putting the two together, the Bionic has a higher total quadrant score. What does this mean? Not much, quadrant scores are easily manipulable. The OS on the Bionic and Android software itself are not optimized for dual core yet, so there will be very little advantage in having dual core for a while (except maybe gaming?). Maybe by the fall or winter they will be able to utilize dual core better, and have apps that can take advantage.