Thunderbolt vs Bionic

[dewey77772002]

If you are covered by 4G but occasionally go into areas that aren't covered (various work travel), will it still work on the 3G network?

 

[UNC]

If you are covered by 4G but occasionally go into areas that aren't covered (various work travel), will it still work on the 3G network?

Yes.

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[Johnly]

Thunderbolt bitc***. Bionic is a concept phone. We will all rock the TB for months before that plastic gets released!

 

[wctaylor79]

So I guess the TB has wormed its way back into my life.. Now there is that urge to upgrade since I have the D1 since launch, but what does the bionic have that the TB doesn't? Dual core? No need for me. 1 gig OC and rooted will be plenty fast when combined with 4G for data. Moto blur? I will leave that one alone.. HDMI out? Well that takes a cord and DLNA is wireless.. NVM the fact what am I going to do.. Download a movie on my CPU transfer to my phone to plug into my TV and watch a movie when I can just que it into my xbox without wires and watch in HD as well? The qHD screen.. let's be honest.. can you really tell the difference?? Ok yes some can.. but does it make the phone.. nah.. It will be nice but really the TB screen is all I need.. Of course this is opinion.. Moto boot loader.. I will throw that with the blur and leave it alone.. on a side note though I hope for all those that hold for the Bionic or any other Moto device that you will get an unlocked bootloader somewhere along the lines. I know my D1 has been great and still is. I am not getting rid of it when I upgrade.. I will hang on to it cause it is a solid workhorse of a phone..

So that is my thoughts.. Sure the Bionic will be nice.. maybe Verizon will land the pyramid even though rumor has it going to Tmobile. But really I don't see the need for something with dual core until maybe this time next year.. So one year contract the TB and then be ready to go once the holidays come around again. Personally I don't see any reason to upgrade in a year, but we all know that is just crazy talk when you are deep in the Android world..

Any others that were on the TB boat just to jump ship at CES and find that the TB has now thrown the life preserver your way to win you back?

 

[Preach2k]

So I guess the TB has wormed its way back into my life.. Now there is that urge to upgrade since I have the D1 since launch, but what does the bionic have that the TB doesn't? Dual core? No need for me. 1 gig OC and rooted will be plenty fast when combined with 4G for data. Moto blur? I will leave that one alone.. HDMI out? Well that takes a cord and DLNA is wireless.. NVM the fact what am I going to do.. Download a movie on my CPU transfer to my phone to plug into my TV and watch a movie when I can just que it into my xbox without wires and watch in HD as well? The qHD screen.. let's be honest.. can you really tell the difference?? Ok yes some can.. but does it make the phone.. nah.. It will be nice but really the TB screen is all I need.. Of course this is opinion.. Moto boot loader.. I will throw that with the blur and leave it alone.. on a side note though I hope for all those that hold for the Bionic or any other Moto device that you will get an unlocked bootloader somewhere along the lines. I know my D1 has been great and still is. I am not getting rid of it when I upgrade.. I will hang on to it cause it is a solid workhorse of a phone..

So that is my thoughts.. Sure the Bionic will be nice.. maybe Verizon will land the pyramid even though rumor has it going to Tmobile. But really I don't see the need for something with dual core until maybe this time next year.. So one year contract the TB and then be ready to go once the holidays come around again. Personally I don't see any reason to upgrade in a year, but we all know that is just crazy talk when you are deep in the Android world..

Any others that were on the TB boat just to jump ship at CES and find that the TB has now thrown the life preserver your way to win you back?

Nope I am going with the Bionic.

 

[Parafly9]

I'm up for a phone in march, but my wife is up now. I'm thinking of getting her the Tbolt to see how it runs, get some time to play with it before I make my decision> either way I'm going with 1 year contracts from now on.

 

[JFMFT]

In the end, it comes down to what you want.

Do you want unmatched performance and better battery savings (although currently in its unoptimized state the Bionic fails in this regard)? Do you prefer having a barebones experience that relies solely on your own efforts to maximize (assuming they even unlock the bootloader)? Get the Bionic.

Do you want a better user experience, complete with various consumer-oriented background services, a kickstand, and a powerful back speaker, from a manufacturer known for its speedy OS updates relative to the competition? Do you wish to be guaranteed to have the best of the best from a device that possesses the most mature technology of its kind (even if it means giving up next-gen)? Get the Thunderbolt.

Do you want both? Get the Thunderbolt then sell it later for a dual-core, DDR2 device later.

I'm going to one-year a T-Bolt and upgrade post-CES/MWC next year when devices are released that turn this year's Atrix and Bionic into Droid Erises. By then multi-core technologies will actually be utilized properly by the software so the jump in performance will be more noticeable and very welcome.

Agreed, very much! I'd rather have the BEST current gen software/hardware that is upgradeable for a good amount of time (6-9 months - which is a VERY long time in Android terms), than have an underdeveloped, perhaps rushed next-gen device with what I consider to be "consumer untested" hardware.

Multi-core devices won't really shine until Google backs the effort; which is why I prefer to stick closer to Google than further from it. If they didn't emphasize multi-core processors in their Nexus S, then they clearly don't think the technology is quite there yet. Tegra 2 IS super impressive, but I think it's better for tablets, since tablets have to push more pixels to drive the same screen/image quality on a much bigger screen, and because Google built an OS around the idea of using multiple cores. Until Google does the same for smartphones, the best of the best single core is where it's at (which is what HTC went with for their current generation of Desire HD-like handsets, such as the Thunderbolt).

 

[JFMFT]

I'm up for a phone in march, but my wife is up now. I'm thinking of getting her the Tbolt to see how it runs, get some time to play with it before I make my decision> either way I'm going with 1 year contracts from now on.

That's smart. One year contracts provide a much higher degree of flexibility and upgradeability (I know that isn't a real word) for a small price. As long as you're good about selling off your old device(s), you shouldn't feel too much from the slightly higher price of a 1-year contract.

 

[StinkyPete]

I had always done 2-year contracts for the cheaper price of the phone at the start - and to lock in the rates.

If I could get $29.99 unlim 3g/4g it might be worth locking down 2 years.

My fear is that a year from now the data rate will be $10 higher per month or more and then you are looking at more than just the 1 year vs 2 year price difference in the phone.

Would love the new phone after one year, but...

 

[Preach2k]

In the end, it comes down to what you want.

Do you want unmatched performance and better battery savings (although currently in its unoptimized state the Bionic fails in this regard)? Do you prefer having a barebones experience that relies solely on your own efforts to maximize (assuming they even unlock the bootloader)? Get the Bionic.

Do you want a better user experience, complete with various consumer-oriented background services, a kickstand, and a powerful back speaker, from a manufacturer known for its speedy OS updates relative to the competition? Do you wish to be guaranteed to have the best of the best from a device that possesses the most mature technology of its kind (even if it means giving up next-gen)? Get the Thunderbolt.

Do you want both? Get the Thunderbolt then sell it later for a dual-core, DDR2 device later.

I'm going to one-year a T-Bolt and upgrade post-CES/MWC next year when devices are released that turn this year's Atrix and Bionic into Droid Erises. By then multi-core technologies will actually be utilized properly by the software so the jump in performance will be more noticeable and very welcome.

Again this is speculation. The phone is not finished yet. The Battery is better on dual core and when Honey comb is released it will work even better.. Weather you want to believe it or not the Thunderbolt is a upgraded Evo 4G with better Upgraded Sense Thunderbolt is old Tech. Dual sore is the Future. Whenever Bionic gets Honeycomb you will see the the real power of the Bionic. Don't get me wrong HTC Thunderbolt is a good phone but from what I heard from my friend from Verizon he told me to wait for the the Bionic it is a better phone... Also he told me if I can wait to 4th Q for the Verizon Atrix.. I am not waiting to the end of the year. So I will get the Bionic..

 

[JFMFT]

In the end, it comes down to what you want.

Do you want unmatched performance and better battery savings (although currently in its unoptimized state the Bionic fails in this regard)? Do you prefer having a barebones experience that relies solely on your own efforts to maximize (assuming they even unlock the bootloader)? Get the Bionic.

Do you want a better user experience, complete with various consumer-oriented background services, a kickstand, and a powerful back speaker, from a manufacturer known for its speedy OS updates relative to the competition? Do you wish to be guaranteed to have the best of the best from a device that possesses the most mature technology of its kind (even if it means giving up next-gen)? Get the Thunderbolt.

Do you want both? Get the Thunderbolt then sell it later for a dual-core, DDR2 device later.

I'm going to one-year a T-Bolt and upgrade post-CES/MWC next year when devices are released that turn this year's Atrix and Bionic into Droid Erises. By then multi-core technologies will actually be utilized properly by the software so the jump in performance will be more noticeable and very welcome.

Again this is speculation. The phone is not finished yet. The Battery is better on dual core and when Honey comb is released it will work even better.. Weather you want to believe it or not the Thunderbolt is a upgraded Evo 4G with better Upgraded Sense Thunderbolt is old Tech. Dual sore is the Future. Whenever Bionic gets Honeycomb you will see the the real power of the Bionic. Don't get me wrong HTC Thunderbolt is a good phone but from what I heard from my friend from Verizon he told me to wait for the the Bionic it is a better phone... Also he told me if I can wait to 4th Q for the Verizon Atrix.. I am not waiting to the end of the year. So I will get the Bionic..

The problem with this statement is that you assume Honeycomb is coming to smartphones. In fact, it's not. Engadget reported that Google said parts of Honeycomb will make their way to smartphones, but phones won't be upgraded to Android 3.0 Honeycomb because it's a platform developed specifically for tablets. Some of the enhancements will make their way to smartphones, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we won't see much beyond Gingerbread for phones until late summer 2011... I think google I/O will be the next time we hear any major news of a smartphone .1 iteration (2.4 probably).

Regardless of the speculation, Google DID state honeycomb isn't coming to smartphones. This doesn't specifically mean there won't be any optimization/coding to make use of multi-core processors, but if it's not in 2.3 and we won't see 2.4 or whatever comes for smartphones after Gingerbread for another 6-7 months... don't expect the Bionic to live up to its full potential until a few months after its release.

So, for someone wanting the best NOW, the Thunderbolt really is better (possibly excluding games).

 

[Preach2k]

In the end, it comes down to what you want.

Do you want unmatched performance and better battery savings (although currently in its unoptimized state the Bionic fails in this regard)? Do you prefer having a barebones experience that relies solely on your own efforts to maximize (assuming they even unlock the bootloader)? Get the Bionic.

Do you want a better user experience, complete with various consumer-oriented background services, a kickstand, and a powerful back speaker, from a manufacturer known for its speedy OS updates relative to the competition? Do you wish to be guaranteed to have the best of the best from a device that possesses the most mature technology of its kind (even if it means giving up next-gen)? Get the Thunderbolt.

Do you want both? Get the Thunderbolt then sell it later for a dual-core, DDR2 device later.

I'm going to one-year a T-Bolt and upgrade post-CES/MWC next year when devices are released that turn this year's Atrix and Bionic into Droid Erises. By then multi-core technologies will actually be utilized properly by the software so the jump in performance will be more noticeable and very welcome.

Again this is speculation. The phone is not finished yet. The Battery is better on dual core and when Honey comb is released it will work even better.. Weather you want to believe it or not the Thunderbolt is a upgraded Evo 4G with better Upgraded Sense Thunderbolt is old Tech. Dual sore is the Future. Whenever Bionic gets Honeycomb you will see the the real power of the Bionic. Don't get me wrong HTC Thunderbolt is a good phone but from what I heard from my friend from Verizon he told me to wait for the the Bionic it is a better phone... Also he told me if I can wait to 4th Q for the Verizon Atrix.. I am not waiting to the end of the year. So I will get the Bionic..

The problem with this statement is that you assume Honeycomb is coming to smartphones. In fact, it's not. Engadget reported that Google said parts of Honeycomb will make their way to smartphones, but phones won't be upgraded to Android 3.0 Honeycomb because it's a platform developed specifically for tablets. Some of the enhancements will make their way to smartphones, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we won't see much beyond Gingerbread for phones until late summer 2011... I think google I/O will be the next time we hear any major news of a smartphone .1 iteration (2.4 probably).

Regardless of the speculation, Google DID state honeycomb isn't coming to smartphones. This doesn't specifically mean there won't be any optimization/coding to make use of multi-core processors, but if it's not in 2.3 and we won't see 2.4 or whatever comes for smartphones after Gingerbread for another 6-7 months... don't expect the Bionic to live up to its full potential until a few months after its release.

So, for someone wanting the best NOW, the Thunderbolt really is better (possibly excluding games).

There is a form of Honeycomb coming to the Smartphones. What was being said is not the same Honeycomb that is on the Tablet there is another coming made for smart phone... Yes Thunderbolt is a good phone if you want a phone now and can not wait get the Thunderbolt.. But it is not for me... I trust my contact so much from what he has told me in the past when I had got the DX. That I gave my wife The DX and I am using the Storm so I can use her upgrade that was available Jan 2, 2011 that I am waiting on the Bionic.

 

[kptphalkon]

I have a feeling that 2.4 (ice cream sandwich) will be the version that contains these mystified honeycomb enhancements and optimizations, but being that GB is not even released as an OTA update for most newer phones, who's to say?

I personally agree with waiting for the beginning of next year at the very least to purchase or upgrade to a dual core platform, and even with that i will probably not switch to a newer phone until near the end of 2012, when ddr2 and multi core support is not only not just reserved for top of the line phones, but also refined in the software environment to better use the capability.

Just look at when multi core was released for desktops, and how long it took for the OS and more majorly (to me) 3rd party software developers to utilize the potential efficiency. Do you really want dual core now? I dont even want it next year, but that is entirely personal.

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[motty69]

I can see getting the Bionic over the TBolt if you plan on using the phone at least two years. IMO it will be a year or more before that second core gets used. Gingerbread doesn't support it and we have no real indication if 2.4 will either. For me the Tbolt is my choice for a few reasons. It's HTC, it sports Sense (some like it, some don't), I'm ready to upgrade yesterday and everyone who has touched it has raved about it's speed. Haven't heard anything like that about the Bionic (the CES videos didn't seem too speedy either). There will always be something better around the corner, with the potential to be great, but I tend to go with what great now rather than what could be. The Bionic has a ton of potential, but I've had devices in the past that never lived up to their hardware potential.

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[v4npro]

I don't want to get another Motorola device again so I'm going to use my mother's upgrade for the T-Bolt then give her my X. Going for 2 year contract so when my line is due for upgrade I'll give her my T-Bolt and then get something else, lol.