atomicwedgie
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I just came looking for this kind of app and I am grateful for all of you who have done such indepth work on these to make my choice easier! You all get a cookie. 
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Wallet app?
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@pwjone1: If you're in the mood for trying, check out secforms. It has the ability to define your own template forms, so you can use the pre-existing credit card template, or if you find an additional field you need, create a new template. The usage paradigm is very odd, but it's not un-livable, and it is very flexible.
Yep, secforms is on my list of try-next. I've been busy, so still somewhat in the queue, but at first pass, pretty good. Only drawback is that it seems kind of insistent on have a day on the credit cards. Most of my cards say mm/yyyy, but I have seen instances where a day was specified. But still playing.
JCapricorn
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I really like Fire Wallet. I tried about 4 different wallet apps. and this one was my favorite. Doesn't support a desktop version, but import/export via .csv
FireWallet not exactly eWallet
I tried out FireWallet, at least the 30 day free version, to see what it looked like, if it was potentially a potential replacement for eWallet. It seems to work fine on the Moto Droid, and it does certain things well enough, but it is really not a replacement. Lots of missing functions, templates, etc. FireWallet, to its credit, does let you do recurring payments and keep balances, etc., at those it is better than eWallet. But it misses a lot of the functions in terms of userids/URLs/passwords/other info that eWallet has. I guess I would look at FireWallet as more an Android virtual checkbook, or account book, than a wallet.
The types of accounts it can keep track of:
Pretty much everything works, no Droid anomalies, things are readable, entry is pretty logical, although somewhat rudimentary.
Pros
Cons
So, while it does have some unique functions, bottom line is that FireWallet is worse then B-Folders and some of the others at being a replacement for eWallet. If eWallet (and ListPro) were made available for the Droid, I'd buy it (them), but B-Folders is so far the closest, and would at least cause me pause.
Link to FireWallet:
FireWallet For Android
if the list of what it does appeals to you. But again, more a check or account book type function, then someplace to store all your card type info (userids, URLs, pins, etc.).
I tried out FireWallet, at least the 30 day free version, to see what it looked like, if it was potentially a potential replacement for eWallet. It seems to work fine on the Moto Droid, and it does certain things well enough, but it is really not a replacement. Lots of missing functions, templates, etc. FireWallet, to its credit, does let you do recurring payments and keep balances, etc., at those it is better than eWallet. But it misses a lot of the functions in terms of userids/URLs/passwords/other info that eWallet has. I guess I would look at FireWallet as more an Android virtual checkbook, or account book, than a wallet.
The types of accounts it can keep track of:
- Checking
- Savings
- Credit Card
- Investment
- Cash
- Line of Credit
Pretty much everything works, no Droid anomalies, things are readable, entry is pretty logical, although somewhat rudimentary.
Pros
- Free to try out (30 days)
- Uses a Pin for security (easier to use/less secure would be the con, but I gesture potect the Droid anyway)
- Lets you keep account balances
- Lets you transfer from one account to another (virtually)
- Lets you log transactions
- Lets you do budgets
Cons
- Not so free long-term
- Not as rich as eWallet in prebuilt cards, and as far as I can tell, no way of extending
- Missing Userid card
- Missing SSN card
- Missing fields for expiration date
- Missing Card (Debit) Pin field
- Missing URL card
- Missing Note card (free format)
- Missing password fields in entries (does have URLs)
- Doesn't seem to sort the cards/accounts automatically
- No Folder Support
So, while it does have some unique functions, bottom line is that FireWallet is worse then B-Folders and some of the others at being a replacement for eWallet. If eWallet (and ListPro) were made available for the Droid, I'd buy it (them), but B-Folders is so far the closest, and would at least cause me pause.
Link to FireWallet:
FireWallet For Android
if the list of what it does appeals to you. But again, more a check or account book type function, then someplace to store all your card type info (userids, URLs, pins, etc.).
Secforms-Lite
OK, this review has, I know, been a while in coming, but with Christmas and other things going on, better late than never. This is a review of Secforms-lite. I should note, the developer(s) seem to be pretty active, so you have to look at this as a kind of snapshot review, probably will be obsolete in a week or two. I tested with Secforms 1.0.7 on a Moto Droid.
Androlib link, with other reviews:
SecForms Lite v1.0.7 Application for Android | Productivity
Developer (Elaxys) web site:
Elaxys Technology
If I had to characterize Seforms-lite, it is something that is very rich in terms of extensibility and so forth, the initial set of folders is very well thought out, and certainly having a PC variant is a big plus, but with this richness in function, comes some usability quirks that maybe need a little work still. However, clearly this is one of the top products in the category, and with the templates and so forth, if you're willing to put the time in, you can pretty much get it to do whatever you'd like. Here's a list of what's built-in:
As you can see, this is a very rich list of pre-built forms (templates). And it's getting added to, as I said this is a bit of a moving target, in terms of a review. So let me just note this is more than anything else I've seen on Android, but eWallet does have a few more:
I note these here, not because anything else on the Droid seems to have them, and you could pretty much use the Blank template. But Ilium on iPhone and Windows Mobile has them built in, and that saves the end user quite a lot of time (we'll get into that a bit later). Probably what Elaxys needs to do is figure out a way to let users share the templates they've built, the templates would probably be extended fairly quickly that way. There's a window of opportunity here, Ilium has kind-of/sort-of announced it will develop for Android, but at 6+ months out for a delivery, so the key for Elaxsys and others using a charge model would be to either match Ilium's eWallet function (and Elaxsys seems closest here), and/or underprice them when they do come out.
Pros:
Cons:
So how would I summarize the review? Secforms-lite has the richest set of wallet type functions I've seen on Droid, so far, is extremely well thought out, extensible, navigation that works, etc. This is probably the best power user eWallet type function for now, at least until Ilium comes out. But Secforms-lite is also not the easiest to use, the date problem on credit cards is fixable but annoying, and there and on ease-of-use, probably B-Folders still beats it. So I think this comes down to currently B-Folders is going to be better for most light or moderate users, and Secforms-Lite better for power users, and if Secforms-Lite fixed just a few things, it would probably be the better choice all-around.
OK, this review has, I know, been a while in coming, but with Christmas and other things going on, better late than never. This is a review of Secforms-lite. I should note, the developer(s) seem to be pretty active, so you have to look at this as a kind of snapshot review, probably will be obsolete in a week or two. I tested with Secforms 1.0.7 on a Moto Droid.
Androlib link, with other reviews:
SecForms Lite v1.0.7 Application for Android | Productivity
Developer (Elaxys) web site:
Elaxys Technology
If I had to characterize Seforms-lite, it is something that is very rich in terms of extensibility and so forth, the initial set of folders is very well thought out, and certainly having a PC variant is a big plus, but with this richness in function, comes some usability quirks that maybe need a little work still. However, clearly this is one of the top products in the category, and with the templates and so forth, if you're willing to put the time in, you can pretty much get it to do whatever you'd like. Here's a list of what's built-in:
- Blank Form (Note type form, free format)
- Bank Account
- Combination Lock
- Contact
- Credit Card
- Driver License
- Insurance Policy
- Passport Info
- Software License
- Vehicle Info
- Web Account
As you can see, this is a very rich list of pre-built forms (templates). And it's getting added to, as I said this is a bit of a moving target, in terms of a review. So let me just note this is more than anything else I've seen on Android, but eWallet does have a few more:
- General Purpose (close to Blank)
- Health Numbers
- Internet Settings (things like the proxy server names, etc.)
- Lens Prescription (eyeglasses)
- Library Card
- Membership info
- Picture Card
- Prescription
- Serial Number (probably could use Software License, but not exactly)
- Social Security Info
- Voice Mail Info
- Voter Card
I note these here, not because anything else on the Droid seems to have them, and you could pretty much use the Blank template. But Ilium on iPhone and Windows Mobile has them built in, and that saves the end user quite a lot of time (we'll get into that a bit later). Probably what Elaxys needs to do is figure out a way to let users share the templates they've built, the templates would probably be extended fairly quickly that way. There's a window of opportunity here, Ilium has kind-of/sort-of announced it will develop for Android, but at 6+ months out for a delivery, so the key for Elaxsys and others using a charge model would be to either match Ilium's eWallet function (and Elaxsys seems closest here), and/or underprice them when they do come out.
Pros:
- Allows you to "show" password on entry screen (this comes in handy, if you're in a private location, no need to be secure, minimizes keypunch errors, wish more of these types of functions did this)
- Navigation is pretty easy, there are little blue wedgies to go back and forth, no risk of popping out of the App (really annoying on this sort of App, because you have to retype the password, so Secforms is ahead of the pack here, well thought out)
- Supports Folders (and the organization initially is pretty good, well thought out)
- Has a PC variant (big plus), but it costs money ($19.50)
- Alphabetizes Entries
Cons:
- In testing, I did see an occasional force close on the Moto Droid.
- The Credit Card template has some shortcomings:
- Sets the date to mm/dd/yyyy, but on most US based credit cards, the expiration date is mm/yyyy (this one is pretty major)
- Missing an entry for URL
- Missing an entry for phone number (if lost, account, etc.)
- Missing Detail extensions (does have note field, this is consequently minor)
- In general, the cards in Secforms-lite are missing phone numbers, which admittedly you could put under Contacts, or in the notes, but it's handy to have them organized with the entry as a stand-alone field (and one you could select-to-dial)
- No way in Android variant to copy'n'paste templates (to fix/extend the ones that are there), so you have to create them from scratch, which for longer templates is tedious.
So how would I summarize the review? Secforms-lite has the richest set of wallet type functions I've seen on Droid, so far, is extremely well thought out, extensible, navigation that works, etc. This is probably the best power user eWallet type function for now, at least until Ilium comes out. But Secforms-lite is also not the easiest to use, the date problem on credit cards is fixable but annoying, and there and on ease-of-use, probably B-Folders still beats it. So I think this comes down to currently B-Folders is going to be better for most light or moderate users, and Secforms-Lite better for power users, and if Secforms-Lite fixed just a few things, it would probably be the better choice all-around.
RhombuSoft WalletPro
This is an early review of RhombuSoft WalletPro, on the Moto Droid (Android 2.0). This is not a Free App, it costs currently a little over $3 US, but I figured what the heck, skip Starbucks for a day, and...
Link:
Products
I ran version 1.3. The number of predefined cards/templates is pretty extensive, but includes:
Like I said, seems to cover all the basics, and if there's something that was missed, you can create a template yourself.
It comes with roughly 85 icons, user selectable, for the entries, most of the standard stuff.
Pros
Cons
Is WalletPro as good as eWallet? No, but it's a lot less money, and has maybe 90% of the functionality. I guess the biggest missing piece to me was the folder/category support. Probably it's closest competitor on Android is Secforms. Secforms does a little better at organizing, and has a PC variant which is nice, but doesn't have as extensive a collection of templates. although editting/updating a template is easier on Secforms. Is WalletPro better than Secforms? Maybe just slightly, on entry, ease-of-use, but then it has some pretty serious limitations in changing templates to add fields, re-order, etc., there and with the PC exchange, Secforms is better.
This is an early review of RhombuSoft WalletPro, on the Moto Droid (Android 2.0). This is not a Free App, it costs currently a little over $3 US, but I figured what the heck, skip Starbucks for a day, and...
Link:
Products
I ran version 1.3. The number of predefined cards/templates is pretty extensive, but includes:
- Cards
- ID Card
- ISIC Card
- Membership Card
- Social Security Card
- Calling Card
- Computers
- Hosting
- Internet Settings
- Network
- Software Serial Number
- Web Site
- Finances
- Bank Account
- Investment/Stock
- Loan/Mortgage
- Amex Card
- Cirrus Card
- Visa Card
- MasterCard
- Credit Card
- Other
- Event
- Product Serial
- Hotel Information
- Personal
- Voice Mail Codes
- Cell Phone
- Contact
- Personal Insurance
- Note
- My Templates (custom)
Like I said, seems to cover all the basics, and if there's something that was missed, you can create a template yourself.
It comes with roughly 85 icons, user selectable, for the entries, most of the standard stuff.
Pros
- Sorts Entries two ways:
- Alphabetically
- By Category
- User Creatable Templates
- Pretty extensive fields in the templates that are present already
- Allows back-up/restore (to SD card)
Cons
- Date fields on credit cards are for some reason dd-mm-yyyy, whereas of course you only need mm-yyyy (this was a problem with Secforms, also, must be an Android thing of some sort)
- Seems to have no notion of folders as an organization method (you can sort by category, but it's not shown on the list)
- On Templates, fields are a bit limited (text, number, password, Date), does not have:
- Phone Number field (handy for dialing)
- URL field (for bringing up a browser)
- No way to edit a template you've created (to add a field, etc.)
- Template fields can only be added (no way to move up, down, etc.)
Is WalletPro as good as eWallet? No, but it's a lot less money, and has maybe 90% of the functionality. I guess the biggest missing piece to me was the folder/category support. Probably it's closest competitor on Android is Secforms. Secforms does a little better at organizing, and has a PC variant which is nice, but doesn't have as extensive a collection of templates. although editting/updating a template is easier on Secforms. Is WalletPro better than Secforms? Maybe just slightly, on entry, ease-of-use, but then it has some pretty serious limitations in changing templates to add fields, re-order, etc., there and with the PC exchange, Secforms is better.
davemag.
Thanks for the comments. I'm a previous eWallet loyal customer who is leaving eWallet because they missed the boat on Android and are at least 6 months off from an Android product.
SplashID looks good. $30 is nothing in order to have the convenience and security of looking up passwords, credit cards, IDs, etc. on my phone AND desktop.
Can you provide a little more info on how you imported from eWallet text. My first attempt failed. What delimiters does SplashID expect and what tokens do they need to be between? If you can send a helpful link instead of explicitly describing everything, that would be fine.
Thanks.
Mike Botts
I used eWallet back in the day when I had my Dell Axim, that was at least 5 years ago now though , haha. I love LastPass so much more.
Yes, I've gotten it to work. It's a little bit fiddly but once you get used to the sequence, very fast.
- In Secforms on the Droid, under Menu > settings, make sure you enable wi-fi data transfer first
- When you go into the desktop app and initiate wi-fi sync, you have to confirm it on the phone (using the default settings, anyway). I've found that the desktop app times out pretty quickly; sometimes I have to initiate it more than once.
Who Can You Trust?
What about security in these apps? How do you decide who is trustworthy, among the vendors/suppliers of wallet apps?
For example, Secforms is the product of a company called Elaxys. Who are they? How do we know they don't have a back door to our data? Secforms has full net access. Their web site is a bare-bones affair. Who are these guys?
B-Folders, for another example, says:
I'd love to hear from some people who really know about data encryption and security, we must have some here.
What about security in these apps? How do you decide who is trustworthy, among the vendors/suppliers of wallet apps?
For example, Secforms is the product of a company called Elaxys. Who are they? How do we know they don't have a back door to our data? Secforms has full net access. Their web site is a bare-bones affair. Who are these guys?
B-Folders, for another example, says:
I'd love to hear from some people who really know about data encryption and security, we must have some here.
Hey guys!
I'm soo glad I found this thread! Thank you all for amazing reviews of all these different apps!
I was just wondering if anyone has used Password Safe and LastPass. And, what is general feeling that people got from using them.
Originally I came from WinMo device with SPB Wallet. I think that Password Safe is relatively close to that (at least in terms of organization) but so are the SecForms and other apps reviewed in this thread.
Thanks.
dimaj
I'm soo glad I found this thread! Thank you all for amazing reviews of all these different apps!
I was just wondering if anyone has used Password Safe and LastPass. And, what is general feeling that people got from using them.
Originally I came from WinMo device with SPB Wallet. I think that Password Safe is relatively close to that (at least in terms of organization) but so are the SecForms and other apps reviewed in this thread.
Thanks.
dimaj