WARNING! Google wallet issue

[yakitori]

I did edit the OP. I jumped the gun...because I had tested on a demo...and verified android beam was turned on on the demo. However...I restored the stock images through fastboot and took the phone to verizon for troubleshooting and the rep grabbed another persons nex and we verified beam DOES work.

The error will hopefully be fixable in the future.

 

[paul gyver]

FWIW I had the secure element not responding message on my phone while on Gummy 12/23 version. I flashed Zygot3 2.0 yesterday and to my surprise Wallet is working again. It still retained my sign in info.

 

[rubiksc00p]

Good to know! . I'm not scared anymore! :biggrin:

Sent from the best phone on Verizon!

 

[R850R]

So here is an off topic GW question, do you think having GW installed will be an issue with a OTA 4.0.3 update or a OTA official GW push?

 

[captdroid]

So here is an off topic GW question, do you think having GW installed will be an issue with a OTA 4.0.3 update or a OTA official GW push?

haha good question You want to be the first to give it a try after getting the 4.03 OTA? Or for that matter the first to get the 4.03 OTA while being rooted...

 

[R850R]

Point taken, I guess I'll uninstall GW then wait.

 

[yakitori]

lol...Ill be the first to try. haha.

Here is my thinking. The secure element is part of the app. What I think happens (big think lol)....the app on first initiation reads some code/part of the nfc chip itself. It activates to that code. One app per phone basically. Once you activate...thats it...thats your working google wallet. If you wipe....try to install the app again from no data...it tries to initiate again...2 code readings on 1 chip....security breach....lockdown.

It has to be software coded....so...In my opinion...its something that the wallet team could possibly fix? IDK. Or at least a good hacker can disable that code reading function of the app...making the wallet app usable on a single device as many times as you want to initiate.

Im thinking its like a lock and key...once the key is made for wallet...thats the only key that can be used to open wallet...it doesnt allow re-keying.


that being said...I have a weird feeling that those who have made this key using the hacked app....will end up getting this secure element lockdown if the OTA comes. What I predict will happen in the future is...you will not be able to use another wallet....youre stuck with the one you have already activated.

Thats my take...so uninstalling and waiting for the new one....its a test...may work...may lock. Personally....I wouldnt try another wallet app other than the one Ive been using on my phone. I could be wrong though. WHo knows...we really need to find out whats the issue with this app...and the secure element lockdown error.

Makes me want to dig through some smali files. lol

 

[captdroid]

Point taken, I guess I'll uninstall GW then wait.

I would make a Titanium Backup of GW before uninstalling it. I'm not sure of the proper procedure for backing out of using GW but I would want a backup before uninstall just in case I needed it later. My understanding is a key sequence is created and stored when initializing GW which I think may be backed up with GW data using Titanium Backup. Good luck whatever you decide.

 

[captdroid]

lol...Ill be the first to try. haha.

Here is my thinking. The secure element is part of the app. What I think happens (big think lol)....the app on first initiation reads some code/part of the nfc chip itself. It activates to that code. One app per phone basically. Once you activate...thats it...thats your working google wallet. If you wipe....try to install the app again from no data...it tries to initiate again...2 code readings on 1 chip....security breach....lockdown.

It has to be software coded....so...In my opinion...its something that the wallet team could possibly fix? IDK. Or at least a good hacker can disable that code reading function of the app...making the wallet app usable on a single device as many times as you want to initiate.

Im thinking its like a lock and key...once the key is made for wallet...thats the only key that can be used to open wallet...it doesnt allow re-keying.

Yup there is a guy supposedly looking into more of what happens in that XDA thread I was reading. I think the key holder is not Google but the payment processor of sorts who would need to unlock / re-initialize the secure element.

 

[yakitori]

FWIW I had the secure element not responding message on my phone while on Gummy 12/23 version. I flashed Zygot3 2.0 yesterday and to my surprise Wallet is working again. It still retained my sign in info.

weird..I was using stock rooted...wallet was fine for over a week. Used it many times reloaded...etc. No probs ever. Flashed zygote 1.9 christmas morning...opened the wallet app in the rom...secure element not responding. Wiped...restored my backup with the working wallet....same secure element message. So...I flashed 2.0.....restored my working titanium backup version of wallet....no dice. Same message. Wiped...flashed 2.0....opened the wallet app in the rom...no dice.

Restored to stock using the factory images in fastboot...relocked bootloader. All back to stock....installed wallet.apk...no dice.

Nothing I have done allows me to use it again yet. Im going to try 2.0 again now.

Although personally Im not a fan of the kernel included. IMO is my kernel of choice.

 

[yakitori]

Yup there is a guy supposedly looking into more of what happens in that XDA thread I was reading. I think the key holder is not Google but the payment processor of sorts who would need to unlock / re-initialize the secure element.

so basically money network? I can call them...I was going to ask about the 30 bucks I lost on my recharged card too. If I can get it somehow. Dont care how...send me a gift card in the mail. lol

Edit: hmm...im sure it will be cracked eventually. We just need a good pickpocket . Im not a good one. lol.

 

[captdroid]

so basically money network? I can call them...I was going to ask about the 30 bucks I lost on my recharged card too. If I can get it somehow. Dont care how...send me a gift card in the mail. lol

Might be money network that holds the encryption keys but somehow I think it's another party that does. But money network I think is who you talk to regarding the funds. Money network may also be able to re-initialize the secure element. But they may or may not do it for a Galaxy Nexus. There is a guy on that XDA thread that posted waiting to hear back again from money network for some sort of 'reset'. Really there should be a way to get your money back for sure. After all it's your money

 

[yakitori]

I wonder if it has anything to do with the development device ID found in developer options in settings. I notice this id changes when I install...or change roms.

HMM....anyone who has uninstalled, but still on the same rom willing to try lol.

just kidding...I dont advise it.

 

[paul gyver]

Although personally Im not a fan of the kernel included. IMO is my kernel of choice.

I agree 100% IMO kernels are awesome.

As for why my wallet decided to work I have no idea. I did not do anything special flashing roms, besides flashing IMO kernel but I doubt it has anything to do with it. Hope you get yours figured out.

 

[yakitori]

I agree 100% IMO kernels are awesome.

As for why my wallet decided to work I have no idea. I did not do anything special flashing roms, besides flashing IMO kernel but I doubt it has anything to do with it. Hope you get yours figured out.

well...I flashed 2.0 again...still no dice.

Waiting for axiom 2.1 to be uploaded. Ill try that. If not working...I may just stick with Rootzboat....Its really smooth on my phone compared to zygote. And I like the 4 lockscreen options. Maybe that will be added in the 2.1 update uploading now.