512 Ram

[Stelv]

The thunderbolt has about 590 free out of the 768. In droid 3 about 400 will be free out of 512 if that is the true spec. 512 would not be too bad if the phone comes with gingerbread which is better than froyo in memory management. But blur will prolly hinder performance, so I think 512 is kind of low, but not too much of an issue. I personally want a phone with more ram myself, so I don't have to lessen my memory usage like I do now on fascinate.

Sent from my fascinate

 

[eagle1967]

512

I have 512 on the G2x and ussually have 100-230 available. with no lag ever.
but there is no blur or sense on it. the droid x2 has 512 and blur so llok through that thread and make you own opinions from there. i wanted more myself but have been happy with the 512 on the g2x. so i think it just really depends on how optimized the new blur is.

 

[Malvado]

Just so u guys know, droid 3 is dual core

Sent from my DROID2

 

[Stelv]

Does dual core mean the extra core will pickup where ram falls short?

Sent from my fascinate

 

[Malvado]

Does dual core mean the extra core will pickup where ram falls short?

Sent from my fascinate

So why the crying about 512...just saying

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[Stelv]

I am asking cuz idk how it works with android. Is that how it works, will dual core pick up the extra slack of having low ram? I thought good ram was also needed, but with dual core is it not necessary?

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[Malvado]

I am asking cuz idk how it works with android. Is that how it works, will dual core pick up the extra slack of having low ram? I thought good ram was also needed, but with dual core is it not necessary?

Sent from my fascinate

Oo ok well A dual core process detects incoming data streams and determines whether they could be calculated more quickly if both cores were working. If that's the case, the dual-core processor will split the data and crunch the numbers at the same time, effectively doubling the processor's speed.

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[Stelv]

Ok thanks. So there is no processor cache? Hopefully the new blur doesn't take up too much free ram, but I guess dual core will help once the os is optimized for both cores.

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[Card]

I'm simply saying that given the specs for the Milestone 3 (and again I'll state, I know this isn't definitively what will be in the D3), this is really not a huge upgrade from what we've already seen in the D2 and what we've already seen in other phones already present in the market.

Of course it's not a huge upgrade from other phones presently in the market. It's not intended to be. It doesn't bring anything new to the table, but it's still no slouch with current tech all around.

As for not being much of an upgrade from the D2, I'll have to disagree:

4" screen
qHD resolution (sure it's pentile, but most folks really don't have an issue with it in everyday use)
Dual core processor
Vastly improved keyboard
Vastly improved rear 8mp camera with 1080p video
Front facing camera

Yeah, that's a big jump from the Droid 2 in a lot of ways. It's a much larger jump that the D2 was from the D1. The only things holding it back from being at the cutting edge of current tech are the lack of 4G and - possibly - the ram. Besides those two things, everything in this phone is very current and a big step up from the Droid 2. There's actually not really anything else that could be added to it besides those two things to make it any more advanced when one looks at the tech that's currently available.

It seems to me that a lot of people are just trying to talk themselves out of getting the Droid 3 by saying it's a disappointment or behind the curve. The fact of the matter is that it's very cutting edge for a 3G phone, and it's exactly what we've been expecting it to be for months. There are no surprises for anyone who's been following it. If person feels something is missing that they really want, then by all means that person should keep waiting for something else.

The Droid 3 is shaping up to be a great phone for what it's intended to be.

I fully understand what you're saying, and I don't really consider you wrong on any point. It's just a shame for me, as with a lot of the "secrecy" surrounding this phone by Motorola and Verizon, I was expecting more.

In all likelihood, I'm still going to get a Droid3. My D1 needs to be replaced, my NE2 comes up in less than a month, and the biggest deal-breaker for me right now on ANY phone would be the lack of a physical keyboard. As such, the D3 is plainly the best new phone coming out on Verizon with a keyboard. 4G would be spectacular, but it isn't enough to keep me from getting the device. I have no doubt that I'll enjoy owning a D3, as it is a good step up from the D1. I was just hoping for more of a "game changer" than a "meager step forward".

The only thing that really sucks in my case is that my NE2 comes up on July 7th. The D3 should be just hitting Verizon's shelves, but it's also the first day of their tiered data plan. Granted, if the D3 hits on July 6th, I'll gladly pay the $30 to upgrade early, just to keep an unlimited data plan for another 2 years.

 

[bsweetness]

I fully understand what you're saying, and I don't really consider you wrong on any point. It's just a shame for me, as with a lot of the "secrecy" surrounding this phone by Motorola and Verizon, I was expecting more.

In all likelihood, I'm still going to get a Droid3. My D1 needs to be replaced, my NE2 comes up in less than a month, and the biggest deal-breaker for me right now on ANY phone would be the lack of a physical keyboard. As such, the D3 is plainly the best new phone coming out on Verizon with a keyboard. 4G would be spectacular, but it isn't enough to keep me from getting the device. I have no doubt that I'll enjoy owning a D3, as it is a good step up from the D1. I was just hoping for more of a "game changer" than a "meager step forward".

The only thing that really sucks in my case is that my NE2 comes up on July 7th. The D3 should be just hitting Verizon's shelves, but it's also the first day of their tiered data plan. Granted, if the D3 hits on July 6th, I'll gladly pay the $30 to upgrade early, just to keep an unlimited data plan for another 2 years.

There's no more "secrecy" surrounding the Droid 3 than there ever is for any yearly update to a phone. There's actually been more leaks on this one than there was for the X2 and the Droid 2 for that matter, and they started much earlier - February. They're just not talking about it for the same reason they don't talk much about any phone that's intended to replace a currently existing one - they want to continue to sell the stock they have of the current model. Nothing out of the ordinary for it.

 

[Card]

Maybe it was that I missed a lot of the info being released about the phone. I'll be the first to admit that I don't follow sites like Droid Life and some of the others as frequently as I could. It just seems to me that we really never got any concrete info until the Milestone 3 was shown in China, and even that is only wet concrete, as I don't think it's been plainly stated that the US version will be identical. What I recall from months past was a lot of speculation over what processor would be in the phone, how much RAM would be in it, what version of Android OS it would ship with, and whether it would be an LTE device or not.

I remember seeing actual hardware specs on the Droid 2 well before the phone was released, and pretty much every aspect of the Droid 1 was known well before launch (granted, the release of the D1 could be considered a completely different ballgame). I get what you're saying about wanting to garner every single purchase they can muster of the existing model, but I think marketing a future device wouldn't be without it's own merits, especially when there is so much talk all over the internet of people getting ready to jump ship from Verizon.

By the way, my posts here are in no way trying to instigate any kind of argument or contradict what you and others have said. I standby my comment that I still plan on getting a D3 when it comes out. It may not be the "killer" hardware I was hoping for, but it's still the best option I see that should be available when the time comes to upgrade.

EDIT: While we're here discussing this, I do have another question. Has there been any talk or pics of the home dock and car dock for the D3? They are invaluable accessories for my D1.

 

[johnnieeve]

My main concern with the D3 is Verizon staying with 3G. After all the enhancements being promoted over Verizon 4G, I cannot understand how Verizon can advertise the D3 being the latest and greatest. I live in two locations. One near Seattle and the second in Las Vegas, both providing Verizon 4G service. I love my Droid and the sliding keyboard. But, no 4G means no deal for me. So maybe I'll wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2? No keyboard, but lots of juice! The next Verizon slider phone is probably over a year away?

 

[bsweetness]

My main concern with the D3 is Verizon staying with 3G. After all the enhancements being promoted over Verizon 4G, I cannot understand how Verizon can advertise the D3 being the latest and greatest. I live in two locations. One near Seattle and the second in Las Vegas, both providing Verizon 4G service. I love my Droid and the sliding keyboard. But, no 4G means no deal for me. So maybe I'll wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2? No keyboard, but lots of juice! The next Verizon slider phone is probably over a year away?

No one has said that Verizon will advertise the Droid 3 as being the latest and the greatest. They've been advertising the X2 pretty tamely, and one can assume the Droid 3 will be a similar affair. The only phones they're going all out for these days in terms of advertisements are the LTE phones. Everything else has been rather pedestrian. Sure a lot of people are disappointed by the lack of LTE, but there's still a huge market for 3G. And with the issues that are still in existence with LTE (battery life, outages, lack of coverage), Verizon will continue to need high end 3G phones for next year or two. Most people just want a phone that works well and consistently.

And while the Galaxy S2 is a knockout phone is pretty much every way, there are no indications that it will be LTE. That would probably require a substantially thicker phone, and the thinness of it is one of their main selling points.

 

[Bear in NM]

While the current market/apps/os seems like 512 would not be a deal breaker today, in the back of my mind is the liitle nag that the ram was/is the killer for GB on the D1. I am not so much worried about GB and the D3, but what about future releases from Google. It is a wicked game they play, just enough phone to look pretty darn good now, but in a year or 20 months, not quite enough giddy-up.

Still gonna be looking hard at this phone.

Craig

 

[rushmore]

I can only go by the DX2, which has Tegra 2 with 512mb ram. I returned the DX2 due to low ram issues, audio pops and random reboots. For whatever reason, Moto devs mapped way too much memory to the Tegra 2 and kills the performance. The gTablet has none of the DX2 issues and has same chipset, ram and OS (Froyo).

Let us hope there are two chipsets for Milestone and D3, and if 512mb ram, the D3 has the OMAP.

BTW, the Atrix does not have the low ram issues the DX2 has. Nor the popping or random reboot issues. DX2 = funky a55 firmware.

Since the D3 is also being pushed as a world phone and assuming some business folks will adopt it, they do NOT want to have the same problems as the DX2.