After a full charge, unplugging causes it to drop battery %?

[mark3748]

Is that what's called a bump charge? I've never heard the term in all of my many years until I saw it used on these forums. I'm guessing you remove and replace the battery to insure a cold boot? BTW, here's what Seidio says about charging their batteries:
"In order to obtain the full capacity of your Seidio battery, we highly recommend that you leave the battery/your phone on the charger for an additional 2-3 hours after the charging indicator turns green or the battery status shows full." That's news to me also.

yes, but leaving it on past the green light does nothing. The battery will actually drain to a pre-determined cut-off and then start charging again. Good for the battery (the battery will wear less), but not so great for actually lasting longer on a single charge.

 

[EdForsythe]

GPS Operation

Anyone have any info on the TB's GPS using GoogleNav, VZW Navigator? Accuracy? The more reports the better (up to a point).

 

[GSXRADDICT]

Mine shows full right at 100 but I leave it on an extra 30 minutes got in that habit from my Droid although I am not experiencing bad battery life I also don't have 4G coverage so that's on my side.

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[jdk2]

HTC America Support offered this regarding bump charging:

Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support via E-Mail with your concern about your HTC Incredible’s battery life. I do understand how important it is for your device to function properly and I apologize for any inconvenience this situation has caused you. To increase the battery life of your device, please utilize the following steps: 1. Connect the phone to the charger and charge device until the LED turns green with the phone powered on. 2. Disconnect the phone, and power it off. 3. Reconnect the phone to the charger, and charge the device until the LED turns green again. 4. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and then power it off. 5. Reconnect the phone to the charger and charge until the LED turns green again. Power on and use.

Some have said not to do this too often as it will affect the longevity of the battery. I've not seen anyone say they needed a new battery but then again, most people probably don't keep these phones long enough to care.

 

[EdForsythe]

Is that what's called a bump charge? I've never heard the term in all of my many years until I saw it used on these forums. I'm guessing you remove and replace the battery to insure a cold boot? BTW, here's what Seidio says about charging their batteries:
"In order to obtain the full capacity of your Seidio battery, we highly recommend that you leave the battery/your phone on the charger for an additional 2-3 hours after the charging indicator turns green or the battery status shows full." That's news to me also.

yes, but leaving it on past the green light does nothing. The battery will actually drain to a pre-determined cut-off and then start charging again. Good for the battery (the battery will wear less), but not so great for actually lasting longer on a single charge.

Hi Mark, I don't know for sure but I think that the Seidio charging method may have been meant for the initial charge. I'll try to get the info from Seidio. Either way, I'm inclined to believe that the battery manufacturers are best equipped to determine the correct way to maintain their batteries and I'm reasonably sure they impart that info to their customers. Could it be that charging an additional 2-3 hours with the charger cycling continuously is a method of conditioning the battery to insure optimum future performance? Batteries are strange, magical things and to be successful when using one you must *NEVER* let the smoke out!

 

[WillFCDroid]

I got the high capacity extended battery Saturday at about 1:30. I put it in at the store and it showed about 40% charge. That lasted the rest of the day with moderate use. I put it on the charger and charged it overnight. Yesterday, I went out and used it all day long, taking pictures, sending messages, and as a gps for about 45 min. I don't think the battery ever went below 45%, so I was thrilled. Charged it overnight, and it showed 100% this morning. I go to work and reboot into recovery to get familiar with it. I do this for about 3 minutes, then reboot. Now the phone has only been off the charger about an hour and I really haven't done much with it. After it starts up, I notice that the battery level shows 66%! I have no idea what would cause this. I restart the phone again, and the level drops again to 59%. On the third reboot, it shows 55%. There is something seriously wrong this this phone and how it reads battery levels, because I can't see the boot process using that much power.

By the way, the plastic holster with the belt clip works fine with the big battery and larger battery cover. You just can't use the protective part that covers the back of the phone.

 

[mark3748]

that's a good possibility. Just remember that you don't really need to worry too much about what the battery meter shows until you're around 5-10%. In general it's not going to be very linear, as some have pointed out the battery will take a quick dive down to about 80% within a couple of hours and last another 11 hours or more.

Also, Li-Ion batteries don't have any charge memory (like old Ni-Cad did) so keep it plugged in when you can.

On a side note, I just wanted to test out my battery life today, unplugged my charger before the battery was full (no bump charge, unplugged at 97%) used the phone moderately, some angry birds, mafia wars and zynga poker here and there, plugged it back in at 7%... 14 hours later.

I think the battery complaints are more about the meter than the actual battery performance, my Tbolt does as well or better than my D1 did.

 

[TinGodz]

I got the high capacity extended battery Saturday at about 1:30. I put it in at the store and it showed about 40% charge. That lasted the rest of the day with moderate use. I put it on the charger and charged it overnight. Yesterday, I went out and used it all day long, taking pictures, sending messages, and as a gps for about 45 min. I don't think the battery ever went below 45%, so I was thrilled. Charged it overnight, and it showed 100% this morning. I go to work and reboot into recovery to get familiar with it. I do this for about 3 minutes, then reboot. Now the phone has only been off the charger about an hour and I really haven't done much with it. After it starts up, I notice that the battery level shows 66%! I have no idea what would cause this. I restart the phone again, and the level drops again to 59%. On the third reboot, it shows 55%. There is something seriously wrong this this phone and how it reads battery levels, because I can't see the boot process using that much power.

By the way, the plastic holster with the belt clip works fine with the big battery and larger battery cover. You just can't use the protective part that covers the back of the phone.

I noticed the same thing every time I reboot my phone. For some reason I typically reboot around 40% (the 2-3 times I clearly recall, the charge was coincidentally around 40%). After a reboot, it drops to 26%. However, it stays at 26% for hours on end before it finally depletes. Thus, the boot process isn't draining the battery, it's a coding error in the way the phone reads the battery.

 

[WillFCDroid]

It just finished charging about ten minutes ago. I restarted it and the battery still showed 100%. I went into recovery and after another reboot, it is still at 100%. I wanted to see if I could recreate the problem, but I can't seem to. I hope it was just a fluke. I have been on the fence about returning it and waiting for something else because of the battery issues and dropping LTE randomly, but I'll give it a few more days. I actually haven't allowed it to run all the way down, so I have no idea of just how long the battery will really last.

I have to agree that it's just the way the phone measures battery levels, and not something to dwell over. It just bugs me, I guess.

 

[TinGodz]

It just finished charging about ten minutes ago. I restarted it and the battery still showed 100%. I went into recovery and after another reboot, it is still at 100%. I wanted to see if I could recreate the problem, but I can't seem to. I hope it was just a fluke. I have been on the fence about returning it and waiting for something else because of the battery issues and dropping LTE randomly, but I'll give it a few more days. I actually haven't allowed it to run all the way down, so I have no idea of just how long the battery will really last.

I have to agree that it's just the way the phone measures battery levels, and not something to dwell over. It just bugs me, I guess.

Apparently HTC is going to be releasing an update soon, so hopefully they will fix a lot of these bugs. I'm not too worried because I just ran my Bolt for 24hrs straight with medium usage throughout the day.

 

[TRIKOTRET]

It just finished charging about ten minutes ago. I restarted it and the battery still showed 100%. I went into recovery and after another reboot, it is still at 100%. I wanted to see if I could recreate the problem, but I can't seem to. I hope it was just a fluke. I have been on the fence about returning it and waiting for something else because of the battery issues and dropping LTE randomly, but I'll give it a few more days. I actually haven't allowed it to run all the way down, so I have no idea of just how long the battery will really last.

I have to agree that it's just the way the phone measures battery levels, and not something to dwell over. It just bugs me, I guess.

Apparently HTC is going to be releasing an update soon, so hopefully they will fix a lot of these bugs. I'm not too worried because I just ran my Bolt for 24hrs straight with medium usage throughout the day.

Can you point out your source to this update?

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[WillFCDroid]

I've also read about an update addressing the "missing" internal storage space and possibly battery issues at xda in the Thunderbolt sub-forums. I've read so many forum posts since getting the Thunderbolt that I couldn't tell you exactly where. Word is NOT to do the update if you are rooted or are going to root.

 

[slinky]

On a side note, I just wanted to test out my battery life today, unplugged my charger before the battery was full (no bump charge, unplugged at 97%) used the phone moderately, some angry birds, mafia wars and zynga poker here and there, plugged it back in at 7%... 14 hours later.

I think the battery complaints are more about the meter than the actual battery performance, my Tbolt does as well or better than my D1 did.

Try using 4G. For many of us, we use email for business and some web surfing and maps to get around the city. And after all, we bought the TB for the 4G most of all.

 

[funkyb]

I am on 4G for my work days, good coverage in STL.

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[WillFCDroid]

I'm Done

This phone has me really bummed. There is just no way to reliably tell when the battery will bite the dust on this thing. I used it kinda heavily today and the battery seemed to be holding up well. After using it from 8:30 this morning to about 5:00 pm, from a full charge on the extended battery, it still showed 25% battery. I'm thinking, this is fantastic! I still have plenty for the ride home. I was planning on running it till it shutt off to see exactly what to expect, but I didn't expect this.

I turned the screen off, and that's when the phone went on the fritz. The screen came back on after about 10 seconds with the battery level warning saying to plug the phone in and that I had only 19% left. I dismissed the message and backed out of the battery usage screen. I turned the screen off again, and the battery message popped up again, this time saying that I had 12% battery, rince/repeat. It came up again at 5% and 2%. Before I could close the poppup on the 2% message, the phone shut down. This all happened in the course of about a minute and a half!

I think I've had enough of the phone. There are so many things I really like, such as the radio (always wanted one in a phone), and the camera takes nice pictures, etc, etc. There is so much to like, but above all, I need something that is reliable. This is not it. This has me kinda bummed because I was so excited to finally get my hands on the Thunderbolt. I've been holding on to my Rooted Droid1, out of contract, since last August. This phone feels light years better than the Droid, but at least my old fossile of a phone never let me down. I'm returning it after work. Verizon will have a fight on their hands if they give me any grief or try to charge me a return fee.