Android is losing

[jkhonea]

I believe you actually can use other alternate managers for your iPod and such. In fact I am 99% sure that someone above said they were doing just that. Apps, yes you have to buy through the App store. But not necessarily having to go straight through iTunes. So yes, there are methods other than iTunes to manage the music on your device. And yes, that is without jail breaking your device.

 

[jkhonea]

Oh and perhaps the Flash issue is the free games. But I know for a fact that Flash is very "dirty" coding and an absolute resource hog. HTML5 is acknowledged as much cleaner, more efficient and just as capable. At least according to my coding friends. So I don't completely buy the Flash being removed as completely a money issue.

 

[Jordan8]

If I was to switch to an iphone right now, flash definality wouldn't be something that id miss much. Its pretty dodgy on android, or at least is on my phone. I rarely find myself using it, most of everything apple has convinced to adopt HTML5. Which just seems to be a whole lot smoother.

I havnt made up my mind if my next phone will be android or apple yet. Will keep an open mind about it

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[jntdroid]

And i truly am not trying to be disrespectful as you say in response to the evil posts, I am describing the actions. I see Apple taking control away from me and all the control to them as an evil action.

Just my IMO but i think their are many nerds like me in the same boat. :beer2:

I agree with everything you said, and like you said, there are a lot of "nerds" in the same boat... problem is, the average consumer doesn't think like this, and that's why Apple/Itunes, generally speaking, remains quite successful. I think this will change eventually, but as long as there is a generation of folks out there (like my dad or my wife) Apple's controlling philosophy will appeal to at least some decent percentage of the population. :beer2:

 

[jntdroid]

If I was to switch to an iphone right now, flash definality wouldn't be something that id miss much. Its pretty dodgy on android, or at least is on my phone. I rarely find myself using it, most of everything apple has convinced to adopt HTML5. Which just seems to be a whole lot smoother.

I havnt made up my mind if my next phone will be android or apple yet. Will keep an open mind about it

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+1 on Flash. I can see a benefit for it on a tablet, but having owned a Droid, Incredible, and X, I rarely saw a benefit to having it on any of those devices. It played practically no part in my decision making process - that's just me, though. I'm sure there are instances where it comes in handy, and those that need it probably really appreciate it... though, as you said, I've yet to see it run really well.

 

[ilikemoneygreen]

Oh and perhaps the Flash issue is the free games. But I know for a fact that Flash is very "dirty" coding and an absolute resource hog. HTML5 is acknowledged as much cleaner, more efficient and just as capable. At least according to my coding friends. So I don't completely buy the Flash being removed as completely a money issue.

Flash is definitely uglier than html 5 in the coding department but IMO that still doesnt explain why Iphones dont have flash support... Why limit something that a majority of the internet uses? Even if Flash was more demanding i dont see how that would be worse off than one of many hd games. At least give the users an option to drain their devices quicker with the resource hog. Either that or if we are blocking intense resource hogs then at least not allow apps that do the same thing. I guarantee my itouch is hotter and battery drains when i play my hd games. They are fun but i dont see how you can allow one and not the other. Give me the option at least...Which is why i think Steve Jobs motives are different then his announced ones. Html 5 is better and i agree is more efficient but it isn't as widely used as flash is. Disable flash when most of the net runs html 5 not the other way around.

 

[jntdroid]

I guess the other thing with Itunes is that it's completely melded itself into the mainstream public/advertising world. Case in point - I'm watching SNL, the musical guest just ended, and SNL pops up with a brief ad before the commercial saying "Download So-and-so's new album on Itunes now"... not Amazon, not wherever else.

 

[Jordan8]

Oh and perhaps the Flash issue is the free games. But I know for a fact that Flash is very "dirty" coding and an absolute resource hog. HTML5 is acknowledged as much cleaner, more efficient and just as capable. At least according to my coding friends. So I don't completely buy the Flash being removed as completely a money issue.

Flash is definitely uglier than html 5 in the coding department but IMO that still doesnt explain why Iphones dont have flash support... Why limit something that a majority of the internet uses? Even if Flash was more demanding i dont see how that would be worse off than one of many hd games. At least give the users an option to drain their devices quicker with the resource hog. Either that or if we are blocking intense resource hogs then at least not allow apps that do the same thing. I guarantee my itouch is hotter and battery drains when i play my hd games. They are fun but i dont see how you can allow one and not the other. Give me the option at least...Which is why i think Steve Jobs motives are different then his announced ones. Html 5 is better and i agree is more efficient but it isn't as widely used as flash is. Disable flash when most of the net runs html 5 not the other way around.

The reason I've always assumed apple doesn't have flash support is because the smoothness of it doesn't meet apples standards. However, I have saw some kind of flash running on a jailbroken iphone. How well it works I'm not sure though.

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[jkhonea]

Outstanding job on the thread, y'all. Very good points on both sides and staying respectful. Thank you all so much. I really am enjoying the conversation on here. Excellent examples being set here.

And yes, fully encourage these threads when all of our members are acting as well as y'all are in here. I am truly impressed with the lack of flaming and slamming, just really good tech posts with opinions that are far from defensive or accusatory.

Everyone here is to be commended.

 

[ilikemoneygreen]

Oh and perhaps the Flash issue is the free games. But I know for a fact that Flash is very "dirty" coding and an absolute resource hog. HTML5 is acknowledged as much cleaner, more efficient and just as capable. At least according to my coding friends. So I don't completely buy the Flash being removed as completely a money issue.

Flash is definitely uglier than html 5 in the coding department but IMO that still doesnt explain why Iphones dont have flash support... Why limit something that a majority of the internet uses? Even if Flash was more demanding i dont see how that would be worse off than one of many hd games. At least give the users an option to drain their devices quicker with the resource hog. Either that or if we are blocking intense resource hogs then at least not allow apps that do the same thing. I guarantee my itouch is hotter and battery drains when i play my hd games. They are fun but i dont see how you can allow one and not the other. Give me the option at least...Which is why i think Steve Jobs motives are different then his announced ones. Html 5 is better and i agree is more efficient but it isn't as widely used as flash is. Disable flash when most of the net runs html 5 not the other way around.

The reason I've always assumed apple doesn't have flash support is because the smoothness of it doesn't meet apples standards. However, I have saw some kind of flash running on a jailbroken iphone. How well it works I'm not sure though.

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Im confident if allowed flash would make it run smoothly on iphone. Its not like Ipones are bad hardware... Its got the right stuff. Just needs the software which would definitely be optimized if the two companies would get along.

 

[jkhonea]

Im confident if allowed flash would make it run smoothly on iphone. Its not like Ipones are bad hardware... Its got the right stuff. Just needs the software which would definitely be optimized if the two companies would get along.

I agree with this summation entirely.

 

[ilikemoneygreen]

Outstanding job on the thread, y'all. Very good points on both sides and staying respectful. Thank you all so much. I really am enjoying the conversation on here. Excellent examples being set here.

And yes, fully encourage these threads when all of our members are acting as well as y'all are in here. I am truly impressed with the lack of flaming and slamming, just really good tech posts with opinions that are far from defensive or accusatory.

Everyone here is to be commended.

Haha lets see how long it stays intellectual.

 

[celtic11]

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[Jordan8]

Flash is definitely uglier than html 5 in the coding department but IMO that still doesnt explain why Iphones dont have flash support... Why limit something that a majority of the internet uses? Even if Flash was more demanding i dont see how that would be worse off than one of many hd games. At least give the users an option to drain their devices quicker with the resource hog. Either that or if we are blocking intense resource hogs then at least not allow apps that do the same thing. I guarantee my itouch is hotter and battery drains when i play my hd games. They are fun but i dont see how you can allow one and not the other. Give me the option at least...Which is why i think Steve Jobs motives are different then his announced ones. Html 5 is better and i agree is more efficient but it isn't as widely used as flash is. Disable flash when most of the net runs html 5 not the other way around.

The reason I've always assumed apple doesn't have flash support is because the smoothness of it doesn't meet apples standards. However, I have saw some kind of flash running on a jailbroken iphone. How well it works I'm not sure though.

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Im confident if allowed flash would make it run smoothly on iphone. Its not like Ipones are bad hardware... Its got the right stuff. Just needs the software which would definitely be optimized if the two companies would get along.

Maybe they'll give it a try sometime, based on how long it took them to get along with verizon... it may be awile haha.

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[jkhonea]

Celtic, this thread has actually been going very well, I have been watching it closely. I understand your point, but your tone might be considered off-putting. Please let it continue at the direction that it is. Everyone is bringing up great points.