Apple May Have Resized Photos Again in Samsung Case

[diesburg]

I don't like what apples doing like many others and I don't like apple products. But can't we all admit that sansung UI is a clone of apples? Its like miui, it was intentionally made to replicate apples UI and there's no way around that....

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[JohnnytheK]

I would put almost any amount of money down that apple had nothing to do with this.

This is the work of a child trying to stir the pot.

Perhaps Apple didn't but their legal team did.
Someone somewhere tried to make the Samsung as identical the iPhone. scaling the pictures, showing the Samsung with the
app picker screen, when the home screen is completely different.

A child had nothing to do with this, both set of pictures are a very precise intent to make both devices look the same.

 

[Immolate]

The falsified data was submitted as part of Apple's filing. It doesn't really matter whether Apple did it or someone in the law firm did it. An injunction was ordered based on the evidence at hand, and visual evidence is always very strong.

This isn't a matter of just making a tweak or two to the scale of the pictures. The Android tablet was also pictured with the app drawer open. Everyone knows that the Apple's main interface is their ugly grid. Comparing the Android app drawer to the Apple main interface make them look identical. On the phone pictures, they loaded the Samsung up with a bunch of icons to make it look like the iPhone. I don't know anyone with an Android that (because its boring and hideous), and I'd be ashamed of Samsung if they advertised their beautiful phone that way. In every way short of putting another iPhone/iPad in the picture and calling it the Samsung product, Apple attempted to falsify evidence such that any reason person would be led to the same conclusion. That's called cheating. It's also called fraud.

To suggest it might have been an accident is silly. You don't accidentally re-size an image to exactly the same size as another image that you're trying to prove are similar. It may not have been someone with an Apple name-tag that did it, but you can't hire someone to represent you and then say they aren't representing you. You can fire them and ask the judge to reconsider the new, honest information, and anyone who was being honest would lose no time doing that. At this time, I haven't heard of that having been done.

 

[OneTenderRebel]

Everybody is assuming this was the actual evidence presented, I haven't read all the articles so far but I haven't read that these were the actual pictures used. I am not saying they weren't but is it a fact these are the ones used is all I am asking. I agree that if these were the ones used than no matter who doctored them apple lost any credibility in this case.

To be or not to be........................wait what was the question? This signature has been Tapatalk approved.

 

[czerdrill]

The falsified data was submitted as part of Apple's filing. It doesn't really matter whether Apple did it or someone in the law firm did it. An injunction was ordered based on the evidence at hand, and visual evidence is always very strong.

This isn't a matter of just making a tweak or two to the scale of the pictures. The Android tablet was also pictured with the app drawer open. Everyone knows that the Apple's main interface is their ugly grid. Comparing the Android app drawer to the Apple main interface make them look identical. On the phone pictures, they loaded the Samsung up with a bunch of icons to make it look like the iPhone. I don't know anyone with an Android that (because its boring and hideous), and I'd be ashamed of Samsung if they advertised their beautiful phone that way. In every way short of putting another iPhone/iPad in the picture and calling it the Samsung product, Apple attempted to falsify evidence such that any reason person would be led to the same conclusion. That's called cheating. It's also called fraud.

To suggest it might have been an accident is silly. You don't accidentally re-size an image to exactly the same size as another image that you're trying to prove are similar. It may not have been someone with an Apple name-tag that did it, but you can't hire someone to represent you and then say they aren't representing you. You can fire them and ask the judge to reconsider the new, honest information, and anyone who was being honest would lose no time doing that. At this time, I haven't heard of that having been done.

The problem is no one is suggesting it was an accident haha...it was quite obviously blatantly done to make the two look alike. that part is true. the part that's not true is the silly notion that apple corporate played a part in it, or was aware that it happened and continued to present the evidence (if it even was presented as OTR stated). That didn't happen. You don't become the most valuable company in the world by doing something that blatantly stupid.

apple is to blame if the evidence was presented, and it doesn't matter if it has steve jobs signature on it, or tom jones the freelance graphic artist that they hired for $1/hr. the point is, it's not some conspiracy to trick the courts by apple. how people can believe it even might​ be is beyond me...

 

[OneTenderRebel]

tom jones the freelance graphic artist that they hired for $1/hr.

[video=youtube;jKlxjbhB9HE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKlxjbhB9HE[/video]

 

[czerdrill]

carlton

haha i was trying to think of a generic name...john smith didn't do it for me

 

[Tillmorn]

I don't like what apples doing like many others and I don't like apple products. But can't we all admit that sansung UI is a clone of apples? Its like miui, it was intentionally made to replicate apples UI and there's no way around that....

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This. While the physical design of the phones are different enough that Apple should not be able to win against Samsung... What was Samsung thinking by making some of the icons, such as the dialer, not only similar in appearance but also in color? I understand the concept of "ease of use" and familiarity, but it is pretty blatantly copied. The first time I saw Samsung's TouchWiz overlay I thought "Hmmm...someone would probably mistake that for an iPhone if I had it, then be thoroughly disappointed when I told them it wasn't that 'iconic' device, but rather something 'better'."

 

[grrouchie]

after seeing this I am now going to sell off all of my ipods including my touch.

I do not want to have any association with that company.

 

[darkmatter]

My thing is, when you use simplicity as a design element, you can't get mad when other devices look similar. You can add bells and whistles, and if other people's bells and whistles look like yours, ok, go ahead and get mad. But when you have a screen with a button, with nothing else to distinguish your device, don't get upset when someone else has a screen, and a button. At least the button looks different...

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[OneTenderRebel]

My thing is, when you use simplicity as a design element, you can't get mad when other devices look similar. You can add bells and whistles, and if other people's bells and whistles look like yours, ok, go ahead and get mad. But when you have a screen with a button, with nothing else to distinguish your device, don't get upset when someone else has a screen, and a button. At least the button looks different...

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but what if they were approved for the patents to those designs? Don't they have every right to sue then regardless of how anyone feels about them doing so?

 

[guidot]

And that is the problem with the patent system.

Why can I get a patent for "screen and a button"? It's ludicrous.

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[darkmatter]

if the dimensions of the screen and/or button were identical (or to the same scale), then I'd say they might have something. There's a difference between "the same" and similar. I guess we need to know if the patent applies to the same, or similar, designs.

 

[Rindaen]

Gotta love the one sided views from this place. ( OK not everyone )
Why do so many think one has to fail and one to win?

I forgot , THis is Droidforums where Apple is always in the wrong...

Its really sad that our patent system is the way it is, but until its changed this will continue.
Im sure Apple has more important things to do than continue fighting the clone Wars

50% of the people I know have iPhones , and you know thats the 50% that doesnt complain about
there phone rebooting on its on, they also dont complain about the MP3 player app not working all the time Etc..

If you want to sell your Apple product's go for it, They hold there value Extremely well.
Me? I will continue to buy Apple.

 

[metalspring]

This kinda thing is the main reason I shall never knowingly buy an apple product again...its sad they have to sue the competition to keep up rather than putting that time and money into making their products better...
Personally I hope the Google nexus prime (which is supposed to be made by Samsung) completely demolishes the new iPhone in sales...if it comes to Verizon I'm getting one and gonna put a big apple sticker with an X through it on my phone lol

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