Let's not talk stupid, of course a digial camera will smoke everything, we're talking about cellphone camera's, and when a 5MP I-phone or an 8MP year old Incredible 1, etc. takes better pics than a phone out for days, something is wrong. When the Best buy and Verizon cellphone technical (and sales people) say OMG that's the *best test pics I've EVER seen, says that, something is wrong! LOOK AT MY LINKS ABOVE! SO horrible maybe it's just my cellphone is screwed up? But these phones are also clucky when trying to navigate and swipe, forclosing, hanging up, no stock app, the weather widget and time one sucks, the phone contacts suck, the calendar wignet sucks (hell I'm downloading everything to look like an HTC), the mail and text icons (and all mail) don't show indication there's something new, we're talking about basics. They pushed this back all year and it can't even take a damn photo at a restaurant or club (which you guys aren't doing, we all konw that's where we take them, and OTHER PHONES TAKE THEM FINE!)