[Breaking]Verizon Plans to Slow Downloads of High Data Users Because of iPhone Launch

[hasankamal]

how much data you have to pass?

 

[eewny]

UNC people are not abusers if they are using what was offered to them. Vzw didn't exactly promise top speed all the time which is acceptable but they did make the promise of data.

For years and years companies overcharged us for the data that was cheapest to handle on their network. Years they charges us high prices on text messages. Now they actually offer a deal good enough to bring such a large number of people from just phone service to phone and data. Companies did a similar thing when they started offering free nights and weekends. I never hear people complain about someone spending all night every night calling a relative back home. Im sure there are plentyof people that make voice calls just as long as as frequent as some of the data users you say are abusers. Do you know why we dont hear about those people as much? Because they built their network to handle it. They make the same claim about their data network and offer a similar all you can eat plan. By all rights people should be able to download and upload 24 7. If you actually paid enough attention to your phone to use it that much and downloaded files or webpages every second of every day vzw should support that with network coverage like they do voice.
Honestly people don't do data all day every day. Even the people who hit 50 gbs don't do it that much. Then take your regular abusers by some peoples definition(5-10 gbs) and they are no where near all day every day. So most average abusers are actually being fairly conservative, even if its only because they don't have he need for anymore to download.

I regularly use 5 to 10 gbs a month and I dont deny it. I don't tether and I don't break any rules. I have an ftp server with my collection of shows backed up. I dl a video or two from my server. Over 3g when I am stuck somewhere and can't get access to wifi. Its no different then netflix, slingbox, or hulu all of which are offered as current or upcoming features to my phone.

As another member said I should not expect sympathy which I agree im not but that's different then arguing im not an abuser. Expecially when I am using data no where near all day every day, which is what's offered.


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[eewny]

That's not to say I don't understand about the point of ruining the experience for others. First its vzws role to create towers to support the load they sold. In the expected absense of this action from then I understand priority.

911 call vs. Video download. Go ahead throttle me down

Voice call vs video download. Yes I understand voice quality is vzw main claim over att. If they really want to throttle data to keep phone calls from dropping I can even accept that.

Person loading urban spoon data vs video download. Sorry that's where we have the same priority. Just because you buy unlimited to use 50 mbs a month doesn't mean people who bought the same and use it should suffer.

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[bearklaws007]

Did not read 29 pages..(Wanted to say that)...
Today top 5 percent, tomorrow, The next 5 percent...and so on, and so on...
Unlimited my butt

 

[wingdo]

Just to reiterate what has been mentioned somewhere in this thread, the Chicago Tribune's business section reported this in today's paper, and clearly states that Verizon's release states this only applies to new customers signing new contracts and will NOT affect existing customers.

Well except for the one poster who's apparently supplying his whole neighborhood with access through his tethered Droid.

 

[czerdrill]

the closest thing you can get to fair is ios on verizon vs android on verizon (and that's still skewed for the reasons listed above). talk to me when those numbers are in. i hope you wont backtrack when it becomes clear that there is/was a pent up demand for the iphone on verizon, and that "everyone who wants an iphone" hasn't actually gotten one yet.

Look, my final comment. Globally, VZW share is a drop in the bucket, maybe 5% but possibly 10% of smartphones (VZW is 18th - EIGHTEENTH - globally in wireless share). The lack of the IPhone on VZW is not significant in the grand scheme of things.

Second, Q4 sales of Android in the US were a whopping 54% of smartphones, vs. 19% for the IPhone. To put that in perspective, the IPhone would have to double its share going to VZW, and take ALL that share from VZW Android (as opposed to BB or Symbian) and it STILL might not take the lead in the US. So the numbers are already in, we'll just watch the same scenario play out again with VZW.

What we are seeing is the IPhone being pretty much the only game in town and now its share is going to decline in direct relation with however many other premier devices are on the market, not dissimilar from PC's where the Mac has about a 10% share. It will probably still be the top-selling handset but there other dynamics at work as well, such as IOS users largely being entrenched while Android users easily float to the latest device when their upgrade arrives.

Verizon iPhone: Early sales suspended after record first day for carrier - San Jose Mercury News

There you go. Next I'll wait for the LTE iphone to be released and link you to the article that explains that the record was once again broken. Like I said, android is great...it's not ios. That's not a fanboy talking, that's just common sense and market research.

If they outsold any first day launch in history in two hours, I'm pretty certain they'll be shattering every record known to man. and yes...they will outsell every android device combined on VZW.

 

[huskerkate]

Just to reiterate what has been mentioned somewhere in this thread, the Chicago Tribune's business section reported this in today's paper, and clearly states that Verizon's release states this only applies to new customers signing new contracts and will NOT affect existing customers.

Well except for the one poster who's apparently supplying his whole neighborhood with access through his tethered Droid.

...and MSN is reporting that this is directed (at least in large part) at the new iPhone customers. probably because, on AT&T, the iPhone users consumed a grossly disproportionate share of data (not that Andy users don't use a ton of data, too).

maybe VZW doesn't hate Andy after all... *slumps down in chair, feeling sheepish*

 

[eewny]

I see that in the article but I've got to believe that's hard to monitor in their system.

I guess we can argue all day. At somepoint ill see some one with an iphone 4 on new contract and someone who activated an iphone 4 on their droid plan compare the two in data speeds and throttling. You would have to intentionally use at least 5 gbs or more on each phone then do some speed comparisons and see if the droid account iphone 4 gets better speeds then the new contract iphone 4.

That would make an interesting comparison, hope someone makes it happen

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[eewny]

Its about the iphone launch but its not about the iphone it self. The iphone, I would wager, on average uses less data then an android user. Is it a significantly smaller amount of data maybe not. Its the fact that the iphone will bring the largest number of new data users then any single android phone launch, regardless of how good the android phone is.

I think the lte droid launch will be very big as well but wont have as many new customers. I think it will be slightly less in sales because somepeople are expecting multiple lte droid phones to come in time. The other issue is many of the lte customers will be current vzw customers upgrading.

The reason iphone got the bad name for data use was att network couldn't handle the data packages they sold. Iphone users want to give a better network a chance to fix that. I am just saying it may be an opinion vzw has a better network for load then att. Its not intended to argue about that.
There are light data users on android as well as ios. But a larger group of android users come from power users. People who average more use from their pcs with windows or linux. They come to android because its so close to linux and they can openly make apps like tethering ftp clients video streaming. Apps that push the higher data usage that the iphone store might not allow.

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[wingdo]

I see that in the article but I've got to believe that's hard to monitor in their system.

I don't think it's hard to monitor at all, you just need software on the back end. I can tell you data usage for every user on our network, I am certain VZW can do the same with their user base.

 

[eewny]

I guess its not hard to do, but it might be hard to open that door to that type of segregation. Its not based on data usage alone they have to keep track of the plans. If they want to throttle based on some flag in a data base about when they signed up to vzw I guess they can do that. Wont that create a lot of anger from new users?



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[eewny]

Wouldn't you be upset if my iphone 4 goes all day long without throttling and your iphone 4 gets cut down in speed?

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[bmoney1229]

At least we don't have to worry about BB's hogging bandwidth. They're too slow to make a difference

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[wingdo]

Here's a perfect reason why VZW is starting a crackdown (and all carriers for that matter). uTorrent for Android Gives You Control of Your BitTorrent Downloads | Android Phone Fans There is no good reason for this whatsoever. This is what your home network is for. Sweet jeebus people.

 

[wingdo]

Bah totally disregard that post.

Reading FTW.