Confused Bionic or Vigor

[jroc]

^Same here. For me mostly because I just dont have the money right now for a new phone and wont til the end of Oct. I didnt want the DX2 or D3, and I wanted the Bionic. If I had the money I might have gotten the Bionic tho. But...the chance of a thinner LTE phone is something I keep thinking about now.

I didn't know anyone actually bought these phones based on Sense UI vs Blur vs Touchwiz. The first thing I do is upgrade to Launcher Pro which kills all of the stock launchers combined.

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Blur, Sense UI and Touchwiz is more than just launchers tho. Like post#6 mentioned, Sense UI does a good job with cut n paste. Blur has gotten better at it, stock Android's wasnt really good until Gingerbread. Sense UI or HTC phones had T9 dialing for awhile, phones with Blur just got it last year I think.

Overall Blur and Touchwiz has gotten better, but it seems Sense UI is still the best to many ppl.

The browser on Sense UI and Touchwiz phones might be optimized better than other phones for a smoother experience. Samsung might optimize the browser on all their phones, Touchwiz or stock Android.

 

[rumblee1]

Hi, on my 2nd week with the bionic and im loving it more each day. Have not had a single issue. It is lightning fast especially on 4g. Download average is 21-23 mps. And im getting fantastic battery life. Htc makes a great phone, but their battery issues suck. Plus, don't forget, Motorola has the best build quality bar NONE.

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[Nyteravyn]

I have owned three HTC Android phones from the Eris to the Incredible to the Thunderbolt. The Eris was a great phone that suffered from too slow of a processor and in comparison to today's phones, too small of a screen. I loved the trackball though and the way it glowed when you had a notification. Then I got the Incredible. It was zippy enough in the processor department and well made with a screen that looked like glass candy. However, the battery life was stupid bad. Next the Thunderbolt came out. It was a great phone. Battery life was better, not great but good, and the processor was fast enough to handle Android and the apps. I started having some issues with the phone later on. It would randomly reboot, which is a known problem. The other problem I had was with the phone "losing" the SD card. Sometimes the icons for the apps on the SD card would all go to placeholder status and be replaced with generic Android icons. I would mess with shutting the phone off and turning it on, pulling the battery and other things and at some point the phone would force close UI and restart and everything would be back to normal. That could be an errant app or something. I never figured it out.

I tried the Droid X while I had the Incredible and sent it packing after two days. The lack of cut and paste was the final straw on top of the poor UI. Now I have the Droid Bionic and I am thinking of returning it and getting a replacement Thunderbolt and then getting the Vigor when it comes out. My issues aren't with the Bionic itself but with the way Motorola implemented Android yet again. HTC's Touchsense UI is so far superior that it makes the Bionic and other Motorola versions of Android look clunky and poorly constructed. Touchsense is intuitive, smooth and most of all easy to use. Let's start with the phone dialer. On an HTC Android phone you hit Phone and the dialer comes up showing the last number dialed and from there you can hit dial to recall that number or scroll through your call history. Tap an entry and have the phone dial them. It's just too easy.

On the Bionic you hit the dialer icon and get four tabs. If you are on the "Dialer" tab you have the most recent call. If you hit the call button it highlights the number and shows it in the call field. Then you have to hit call again to make the call. If you want to see your call history you have to go to the "Recent" tab. From there you can tap an entry and then another icon menu pops up and you have to tap the dialer icon to call the number or you can tap Contacts, Text or E-mail. If I wanted to do any of those things I would have fired up the appropriate app not the dialer. This is just too many steps to make a call and you can't preset the dialer to automatically dial numbers with one tap. It just seems poorly executed and inept. Another perk to HTC Android's is that they easily connect to your Facebook account and link your contacts accordingly as well as place a pic on the contacts from their Facebook profile.

Okay, aside from this you are limited to five screens on Motorola Android rather than seven on an HTC. Granted on the Bionic you do have a little more room to stuff icons on the screens as they are smaller and take up less real estate. Then there's the all apps icon on the "dock." It takes you to all of your apps. If you are loading up your screens you have to do so one app at a time and you have to scroll through all of your apps each time to get back to where you were because it doesn't just stay there where you were selecting. No, it goes back to the beginning each and every time. The other thing that I find bothersome is notifications. On an HTC phone you can set notification sounds for e-mail or texts separately, which makes it easy to tell whether you just got a text or an e-mail. With Motorola they are one and the same with no options. A final nuisance is that you cannot have one G-mail icon for more than one account. On an HTC phone you can have a G-mail icon and there is a button inside to switch from one account to another. No such luck with Motorola with them you have to use a separate icon and it's not even a G-mail icon.

On the plus side the Bionic has better battery life and being a dual-core it is much faster with apps. It also opens up my gallery of photos amazingly fast. If the Vigor has comparable battery life it's a no brainer. It will already be a faster dual core phone and come with Touchsense UI 3.5, which looks amazingly good.

WOw, did you actually try the Bionic before you started slinging absolutes?
You are so wrong that I wonder who paid you to play ignorant? Let's take the one notification sound... Stock and un rooted, I have warf telling me if an incoming message for texts anger a yoda wannabe announcing electronic mail...
Gmail has its account change button in the upper right corner of the page.
Please know what your on about before beginning a tirade of disinformation...

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[tgyberg]

^This phone is sooo fast. Faster than my rooted OC'd DX. I guess the "newer specs" on the up coming phones look good but I mean most of the things I do on this phone open so fast I'm not sure how much faster it can get??! jroc, I just set my Bionic next to my X and the are the same thickness, just fyi!

 

[Shadowslight]

I have owned three HTC Android phones from the Eris to the Incredible to the Thunderbolt. The Eris was a great phone that suffered from too slow of a processor and in comparison to today's phones, too small of a screen. I loved the trackball though and the way it glowed when you had a notification. Then I got the Incredible. It was zippy enough in the processor department and well made with a screen that looked like glass candy. However, the battery life was stupid bad. Next the Thunderbolt came out. It was a great phone. Battery life was better, not great but good, and the processor was fast enough to handle Android and the apps. I started having some issues with the phone later on. It would randomly reboot, which is a known problem. The other problem I had was with the phone "losing" the SD card. Sometimes the icons for the apps on the SD card would all go to placeholder status and be replaced with generic Android icons. I would mess with shutting the phone off and turning it on, pulling the battery and other things and at some point the phone would force close UI and restart and everything would be back to normal. That could be an errant app or something. I never figured it out.

I tried the Droid X while I had the Incredible and sent it packing after two days. The lack of cut and paste was the final straw on top of the poor UI. Now I have the Droid Bionic and I am thinking of returning it and getting a replacement Thunderbolt and then getting the Vigor when it comes out. My issues aren't with the Bionic itself but with the way Motorola implemented Android yet again. HTC's Touchsense UI is so far superior that it makes the Bionic and other Motorola versions of Android look clunky and poorly constructed. Touchsense is intuitive, smooth and most of all easy to use. Let's start with the phone dialer. On an HTC Android phone you hit Phone and the dialer comes up showing the last number dialed and from there you can hit dial to recall that number or scroll through your call history. Tap an entry and have the phone dial them. It's just too easy.

On the Bionic you hit the dialer icon and get four tabs. If you are on the "Dialer" tab you have the most recent call. If you hit the call button it highlights the number and shows it in the call field. Then you have to hit call again to make the call. If you want to see your call history you have to go to the "Recent" tab. From there you can tap an entry and then another icon menu pops up and you have to tap the dialer icon to call the number or you can tap Contacts, Text or E-mail. If I wanted to do any of those things I would have fired up the appropriate app not the dialer. This is just too many steps to make a call and you can't preset the dialer to automatically dial numbers with one tap. It just seems poorly executed and inept. Another perk to HTC Android's is that they easily connect to your Facebook account and link your contacts accordingly as well as place a pic on the contacts from their Facebook profile.

Okay, aside from this you are limited to five screens on Motorola Android rather than seven on an HTC. Granted on the Bionic you do have a little more room to stuff icons on the screens as they are smaller and take up less real estate. Then there's the all apps icon on the "dock." It takes you to all of your apps. If you are loading up your screens you have to do so one app at a time and you have to scroll through all of your apps each time to get back to where you were because it doesn't just stay there where you were selecting. No, it goes back to the beginning each and every time. The other thing that I find bothersome is notifications. On an HTC phone you can set notification sounds for e-mail or texts separately, which makes it easy to tell whether you just got a text or an e-mail. With Motorola they are one and the same with no options. A final nuisance is that you cannot have one G-mail icon for more than one account. On an HTC phone you can have a G-mail icon and there is a button inside to switch from one account to another. No such luck with Motorola with them you have to use a separate icon and it's not even a G-mail icon.

On the plus side the Bionic has better battery life and being a dual-core it is much faster with apps. It also opens up my gallery of photos amazingly fast. If the Vigor has comparable battery life it's a no brainer. It will already be a faster dual core phone and come with Touchsense UI 3.5, which looks amazingly good.

This entire post is full of fail, and few here use stock anyways.

I had a dx before this bionic and it certainly did have c/p

On to the dialer, learn how to use a phone before you rag on it. Im not a huge fan of blur but you you can easily set up one click dial without even using the dialer. Being able to navigate to other areas from the dialer without exiting is a plus for me. And its just a matter of time before custom roms hit and none of that matters anyways.

There are also numerous apparently that aloe you to change your homescreens. I only have 3 and its faster to navigate and better on performance.

Also, one deal breaker that I've heard on the tb (although that's just second hand) is that you cannot toggle off 4g so your battery drains forever when not in use

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[alboboy10]

If screen appearance is more important than call quality and you don't mind the wait then you have nothing to lose by waiting.

Another factor will be community support for one or the other device. I'm guessing that the Bionic will see great community support.

Call quality will be worse on what? Is this an assumption or a statement? Cause the screen will be better for a fact.

More support than the vigor or the prime? Lmao Doubtful.

 

[Liderc]

Yeah, Vigor and Prime (If we receive them) will have a much greater support community just considering their accessibility.

 

[ChevyNexus]

If you want a phone now Bionic. If you wanna wait an undisclosed amount of time Vigor Prime or Bionic. Your choice.

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[shortie43506]

I have had no luck with Samsung. This is the worst phone I have ever owned. GPS doesn't even work. I just can't see the Prime being any better than my Fascinate, besides running a little faster yet still full of bugs. I loved my Eris and upgraded to a Droid X and it was decent but I missed HTC. I am going to do my best to hold out but my phone is getting worse each day.

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[Liderc]

I have had no luck with Samsung. This is the worst phone I have ever owned. GPS doesn't even work. I just can't see the Prime being any better than my Fascinate, besides running a little faster yet still full of bugs. I loved my Eris and upgraded to a Droid X and it was decent but I missed HTC. I am going to do my best to hold out but my phone is getting worse each day.

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Apparently they've fixed the GPS issue. The "Prime" will be running ICS as well, so bug wise, it's going to be a whole different ball game. Could be good, could be bad but it's hard to compare a previous phone with a different OS. I wouldn't even consider the Fascinate being in the same bracket as this new device, just in terms of the advancements in technology since then.

Samsung is coming off of the SGSII's recent success and I'm sure they'll be taking cues from it to keep the ball rolling in the right direction.

 

[Graymayre]

Heads up guys, Google acquired Motorola Mobility, so favor is likely going to trend towards Motorola. That was enough for me to go for the Bionic.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Goog...ardless-of-Their-Public-Position-216877.shtml

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[shortie43506]

The GPS isn't totally fixed. It will eventually work but it takes 15 minutes searching before it finds GPS signal and I live in a city. The GPS is one of the many reasons I own a smartphone....its gotta be reliable. Maybe the Prime will be better, but we won't know until after its release day and reviews start emerging.



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[Liderc]

Heads up guys, Google acquired Motorola Mobility, so favor is likely going to trend towards Motorola. That was enough for me to go for the Bionic.

Google's Motorola Acquisition Spells Trouble for Android Partners - Softpedia

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The Bionic will not be affected by Google's future acquisition at all. Google will not finalize it's purchase of Moto Mobility for another 4-6 months and then you're talking another 4-6 months until they start to have an affect on their business model.

Just imagine how many phones will be released within the next year, Google will be looking forward, not backwards.

 

[Graymayre]

Those who are used to HTC tend to want to stick with HTC, and the same with Motorola. What I was implying was that I was choosing to stay on the Motorola train. But nonetheless, OS development might lean towards better compatibility with Moto. JMO

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[Shadez]

I have owned three HTC Android phones from the Eris to the Incredible to the Thunderbolt. The Eris was a great phone that suffered from too slow of a processor and in comparison to today's phones, too small of a screen. I loved the trackball though and the way it glowed when you had a notification. Then I got the Incredible. It was zippy enough in the processor department and well made with a screen that looked like glass candy. However, the battery life was stupid bad. Next the Thunderbolt came out. It was a great phone. Battery life was better, not great but good, and the processor was fast enough to handle Android and the apps. I started having some issues with the phone later on. It would randomly reboot, which is a known problem. The other problem I had was with the phone "losing" the SD card. Sometimes the icons for the apps on the SD card would all go to placeholder status and be replaced with generic Android icons. I would mess with shutting the phone off and turning it on, pulling the battery and other things and at some point the phone would force close UI and restart and everything would be back to normal. That could be an errant app or something. I never figured it out.

I tried the Droid X while I had the Incredible and sent it packing after two days. The lack of cut and paste was the final straw on top of the poor UI. Now I have the Droid Bionic and I am thinking of returning it and getting a replacement Thunderbolt and then getting the Vigor when it comes out. My issues aren't with the Bionic itself but with the way Motorola implemented Android yet again. HTC's Touchsense UI is so far superior that it makes the Bionic and other Motorola versions of Android look clunky and poorly constructed. Touchsense is intuitive, smooth and most of all easy to use. Let's start with the phone dialer. On an HTC Android phone you hit Phone and the dialer comes up showing the last number dialed and from there you can hit dial to recall that number or scroll through your call history. Tap an entry and have the phone dial them. It's just too easy.

On the Bionic you hit the dialer icon and get four tabs. If you are on the "Dialer" tab you have the most recent call. If you hit the call button it highlights the number and shows it in the call field. Then you have to hit call again to make the call. If you want to see your call history you have to go to the "Recent" tab. From there you can tap an entry and then another icon menu pops up and you have to tap the dialer icon to call the number or you can tap Contacts, Text or E-mail. If I wanted to do any of those things I would have fired up the appropriate app not the dialer. This is just too many steps to make a call and you can't preset the dialer to automatically dial numbers with one tap. It just seems poorly executed and inept. Another perk to HTC Android's is that they easily connect to your Facebook account and link your contacts accordingly as well as place a pic on the contacts from their Facebook profile.

Okay, aside from this you are limited to five screens on Motorola Android rather than seven on an HTC. Granted on the Bionic you do have a little more room to stuff icons on the screens as they are smaller and take up less real estate. Then there's the all apps icon on the "dock." It takes you to all of your apps. If you are loading up your screens you have to do so one app at a time and you have to scroll through all of your apps each time to get back to where you were because it doesn't just stay there where you were selecting. No, it goes back to the beginning each and every time. The other thing that I find bothersome is notifications. On an HTC phone you can set notification sounds for e-mail or texts separately, which makes it easy to tell whether you just got a text or an e-mail. With Motorola they are one and the same with no options. A final nuisance is that you cannot have one G-mail icon for more than one account. On an HTC phone you can have a G-mail icon and there is a button inside to switch from one account to another. No such luck with Motorola with them you have to use a separate icon and it's not even a G-mail icon.

On the plus side the Bionic has better battery life and being a dual-core it is much faster with apps. It also opens up my gallery of photos amazingly fast. If the Vigor has comparable battery life it's a no brainer. It will already be a faster dual core phone and come with Touchsense UI 3.5, which looks amazingly good.

Just a small correction, if your moving apps from the app drawer to your desktop, the app drawer stays in the same place when you go back to it or maybe I misread your post.