crappy battery after OTA

[tenacious bee]

The reason you are experiencing a bad battery after the update has nothing to do with the update. The problem is you, the user.

No, I didn't say user error. I'm saying is that you got an update and now you won't put your phone down. Display stays on longer, battery use goes down.

Every update I've ever seen on any smart phone, Blackberry and Android has always produced many threads about the battery, so far on this one there have been two. Only in one update did I ever see a thread saying the battery life improved and right underneath it was a thread saying the battery life had dumped.

Within 2 or 3 weeks after the update this becomes a non issue because you're not using your phone as much. Face it smart phone battery life is not great anyway and the number 1 draw of battery life on any phone is display. So you keep turning it on to check the battery which keeps using more battery, etc.

I'm not saying don't experiment with your phone with an update, of course everyone does that. I'm just trying to share my experience with this particular issue. Once you get over the new OS you'll see the battery life get back to "normal." I've even seen some people who seem to think that the phone and battery "adjust" to the OS in time, but that really doesn't make sense. So just be patient, when you stop playing with it you'll use less battery.

This may be true in some instances but not for me. Phone lasted 9 hours sitting on a night stand.

 

[nuch14150]

After the factory reset my battery life improved alot. And I'm playing with it even MORE than before....take that Hook....lol I don't recall playing with it all that much just after the update anyways....

 

[Scubamike]

Not the reason...

The reason you are experiencing a bad battery after the update has nothing to do with the update. The problem is you, the user.

No, I didn't say user error. I'm saying is that you got an update and now you won't put your phone down. Display stays on longer, battery use goes down.

Every update I've ever seen on any smart phone, Blackberry and Android has always produced many threads about the battery, so far on this one there have been two. Only in one update did I ever see a thread saying the battery life improved and right underneath it was a thread saying the battery life had dumped.

Within 2 or 3 weeks after the update this becomes a non issue because you're not using your phone as much. Face it smart phone battery life is not great anyway and the number 1 draw of battery life on any phone is display. So you keep turning it on to check the battery which keeps using more battery, etc.

I'm not saying don't experiment with your phone with an update, of course everyone does that. I'm just trying to share my experience with this particular issue. Once you get over the new OS you'll see the battery life get back to "normal." I've even seen some people who seem to think that the phone and battery "adjust" to the OS in time, but that really doesn't make sense. So just be patient, when you stop playing with it you'll use less battery.

This isn't the reason for the reduced battery life. I've been tracking this pretty closely looking at "display usage" vs "voice calls". "voice calls" has typically consumed about twice the battery of the "display" used for roughly an equal number of minutes. This holds pretty consistent with my Droid X as well. After the update, even a minimal amount of "display" usage quadruples the battery consumption of any other category. The Facsinate could easily get a combined total of 3 hours between "voice calls" and "display" and have 50% - 70% battery remaining after 12 hours with 2.1. Now it barely makes it to 12 hours.

As far as "not being able to put... the phone down", Froyo meant very little to my wife. This isn't the solution to the battery mystery that has been alluding us all along I'm sorry to say.

 

[Mwsr]

Ok ya see mine has been unplugged from a full charge for 38mins and is already down to 89% and I haven't been using it.

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[nuch14150]

Mine was that bad before I did the factory reset....save your stuff and do it...btw...it couldnt hurt any your phone will be cleaned up and run better regardless.

 

[Mwsr]

Anyway to save apps? Or is all I can save contacts?

Midweststreetryders.com

 

[Jenaht]

While I will agree that there would be an increase in display usage after an update like this, I disagree that it would cause the HUGE discrepancy that so many of us have been experiencing. And it has been reported by many to be huge.

I know for myself that browsing the internet, sending some texts, etc wouldn't cause drop from 80% to 50% in a few minutes. (that is an example) After the update however those numbers or worse are what we were experiencing. Another example is from right after the update. At one point I saw my battery availability go from 10 hours down to 5 hours in 5 minutes the other day which led me to check into this mess. Something was just wrong. I wasn't watching anything or using the camera. I was at work.

Now I've done the hard reset and steps to recalibrate the battery. It seems to have helped *some*. The browser seems slower to me but the phone overall feels little smoother. I'll give it a couple of days to see. Maybe a new battery will be the answer if this doesn't work.

But I think that it's careless to simply tell folks that they are the cause when the only real factor that changed was the update - not their usage. Not extensively anyway. Not in a help forum. This issue is more complex than that.

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[tenacious bee]

Well said. So after a hard reset only a marginal improvement. I did reinstall all of the apps. Didn't know the market links would be gone after the astro back up.oops! So my next move is another reset then reinstall a few apps at time until I find out which apps are sucking the juice.

And if that doesn't work I am rooting it.
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[tenacious bee]

Update !
As it turns out yesterdays usage test was not completely accurate. There was heavy use of xmradio/pandora that I did not know about. The phone was also plugged into the dc charger for as little as ten minutes and as much as thirty a few times as well. Even though the phone was charging streaming music is a drain. About half of that time the phone was in areas where the signal isn't so great so again more drain. Also my wife's voice use is heavy. Very heavy. She is a hospice nurse and is on the road all day. She stays in contact with her co workers all day. Somewhere around two plus hours total. She also keeps her BT on all day. Even out of the car. Having long hair allows her to keep the earpiece in without looking like a wall street broker wanna be and keep her phone in her supply bag out of harm's way. Some of her patients suffer from dementia and can be quite a handful. She had two phones broken in one year that way. Her employer covered the deductibles but it was decided that using BT was a good precaution so that is what they do.

So today she is going out on a full charge, all radios on (bt,wifi,gps,mobile data) and not plugging in the charger at all. She is going to notify me when it hits 25% via the phone status indicator . I am still not going to have her charge it though. Seems that the phone can drop to 25% in about six hours but take an additional two to three hours to drop to under ten. If she gets six hours from that kind of heavy use before it hits 10% I am going to say it is individual use at this point. I am basing that on the fact that the phone would go dead in about four hours if used this way before froyo.

If this goes as I suspect I am going to call it a day and remove every app she does not have a screen shortcut for and see how long it takes her to notice.h34r:Ram usage is in the 280-295 range. I have not looked into ram usage effect on battery life. I will do that this morning.

She is like a lot of people , me included when it comes to apps. Like our daughter cleaning her room every toy ,drawing, magazine etc has a "reason" to be there and cannot possibly be discarded LOL !

 

[Chubbydog]

Anyway to save apps? Or is all I can save contacts?

Midweststreetryders.com

Download mybackup. It worked great for me. It saved my call log, my texts, and put my screens back to the way I had it before the update. I ended up buying the $5 pro version. The free version is only good for 30 days. It also saves all your settings if you want. You can just check everything you want to back up, and then after your done with the update, download it again, and restore everything.

 

[AllForNaught]

But I think that it's careless to simply tell folks that they are the cause when the only real factor that changed was the update - not their usage. Not extensively anyway. Not in a help forum. This issue is more complex than that.

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I disagree. How many people have actually posted with battery issues? Don't forget: by far, most Fascinate users don't even post on forums.

I'm not aware of any hardware discrepencies/differences between older and newer Fascinates (i.e. chip swaps, etc.), so if it's not a battery issue, it has to be a software issue, or a user issue.

Many users power off their phones to charge overnight - this is known to increase batt. life exoectancy 2 fold. Others leave their phones on constantly and expect magic.

Heat displacement = energy loss. When the phone has to maintain operating functions AND charge the battery, you're battery is gonna need replaced in half the time as someone who powers it off for charging.

This is only one example. I see coworkers doing this everyday, leaving their phones on while charging, and destroying their batteries.

Also, the software isn't different for different users.

I'm experiencing at LEAST a 15% increase in battery life, and have been stunned with it. 15 to 20+ hours easily, overnight charge, powered off, moderate to heavy use.

I don't know how you use yours, but these things count.

I just watched Tron Legacy on this thing last night in it's entirety, and only drained 8%. 3G, BT, WiFi and any other unnecessary functions were turned off, only phone service was on.

So yeah, software, system and battery life can depend greatly on the user.

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[Mwsr]

I broke down and did a factory reset. I have the 2200mah battery from Verizon. I'm only getting about 6-8hours out of it.. it got even worse after the reset..

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[Jenaht]

But I think that it's careless to simply tell folks that they are the cause when the only real factor that changed was the update - not their usage. Not extensively anyway. Not in a help forum. This issue is more complex than that.

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I disagree. How many people have actually posted with battery issues? Don't forget: by far, most Fascinate users don't even post on forums.

I'm not aware of any hardware discrepencies/differences between older and newer Fascinates (i.e. chip swaps, etc.), so if it's not a battery issue, it has to be a software issue, or a user issue.

Many users power off their phones to charge overnight - this is known to increase batt. life exoectancy 2 fold. Others leave their phones on constantly and expect magic.

Heat displacement = energy loss. When the phone has to maintain operating functions AND charge the battery, you're battery is gonna need replaced in half the time as someone who powers it off for charging.

This is only one example. I see coworkers doing this everyday, leaving their phones on while charging, and destroying their batteries.

Also, the software isn't different for different users.

I'm experiencing at LEAST a 15% increase in battery life, and have been stunned with it. 15 to 20+ hours easily, overnight charge, powered off, moderate to heavy use.

I don't know how you use yours, but these things count.

I just watched Tron Legacy on this thing last night in it's entirety, and only drained 8%. 3G, BT, WiFi and any other unnecessary functions were turned off, only phone service was on.

So yeah, software, system and battery life can depend greatly on the user.

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I believe I was addressing specifically what the gentlemen had said about batteries going simply because folks are suddenly using phones more after update. Not overall care for batteries.

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[CC268]

I use juice defended ultimate and use a brightness widget most the time on 0% and running 1.3 ghz...I can get 25 hours + of battery fairly easy. I have maybe 4 Widgets running and use my phone a lot. When my phone starts to decrease battery I typically refresh the phone by doing a factory data reset and flash to stock and redo everything. I back up my apps that's it. My screen percentage is around 35% with 0% brightness and higher when I need to turn it up a bit of course. I will say it seems like the new comrom has decreased my battery a lot...I prefer evil for many different reasons. I like the otb kernel but the pbj sv is my favorite. I find that uv kernels actually decrease my battery life a bit ( maybe I'm wrong not sure why).

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[soulshot96]

You should all just give up on Samsung and root! I did and now after a full day of school(6:19am-3:00pm)and moderate use I still have 87% battery left.

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