For all of you who play lots of droid games

[billyidle]

It is just that easy of an answer Mustang, no, the OP does not need a task killer, the OS will do the work for him. Like I said before, if you think a 3rd party task killer (Android has a native app killer) somehow helps, then have fun with it. But they are absolutely not needed to properly run Android, at all.

 

[MustangGT500]

I dont just think i know it dude. 2 months of experience with it and a lot of people that think the same way just cant lie. He cant damage anything with trying it out so why he shouldnt.

 

[billyidle]

A new user could very easily mess things up, the OP has no need for a 3rd party task killer. His games will be closed by the OS if needed.

 

[MustangGT500]

He cant mess anything up dude cause in automatic task killer are no system related things listed.
You are really annoying do you know that? I think the op is old enaugh to decide by hisself. And the 1000 time i say again : yes android closes unneeded apps but often just to late and you have not much ram left. Pls let him decide by hisself and stop this annyoing useless conversation. Are you a android system dev and really know the os so good? I really doubt it.

 

[billyidle]

Well keep doubting what you do not know. He does not need a 3rd party task killer, the OS does a great job using its own.

 

[MustangGT500]

Well you say evrytime the same but you simply cant prove it. If the os does so a great job then why itg kills the apps just if 30 megs left?pls dude we both had spam enaugh now on this topic. You have your opinion and i have mine. And we just should end this now pls. Im tired of discussion. Just look at the comments in the market they speak for themselves . If you think i lie so all the others must lie too.
My last word here is the op should start without task killer. I totally agree. For a novice user its the best. But if he gets some performance probs after a while he could think about using one. Let us end the discussion and let us handle it this way. I whish you a nice weekend.

 

[glassdarkly]

"It just works/everybody says it works so it must" are not acceptable arguments.

From what the Linux developers are saying, Linux does not handle memory the same way that Windows does. It only kills when it needs the memory. A lot of processes that Linux allows to run in the background are not actively using CPU resources - they do not cause significant battery drain (not more than an active task killer autokilling stuff would, anyway) and they do not slow anything down. They are merely loaded into free memory to allow faster access, and can be unloaded from memory at the same speed as writing to empty memory when an active process needs more memory, so there is no performance penalty.

• Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when more memory is needed.
• Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do.
• Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when you haven’t returned to it in a long time.
• Most services (while possibly running in the background) use very little memory when not actively doing something.
• A content provider is only doing something when there is a notification for it to give. Otherwise it uses very little memory.
• Killing a process when it isn’t ready only causes it to have to reload itself and start from scratch when it’s needed again.
• Because a task is likely running in the background for a reason, killing it will only cause it to re-spawn as soon as the activity that was using it looks for it again. And it will just have to start over again.
• Killing certain processes can have undesirable side effects. Not receiving text messages, alarms not going off, and force closes just to name a few.
• The only true way to prevent something from running at all on your phone would be to uninstall the .apk.
• Most applications will exit themselves if you get out of it by hitting “back” until it closes rather than hitting the “home” button. But even with hitting home, Android will eventually kill it once it’s been in the background for a while.

FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android Geek For Me – Android CDMA Sprint Hero
Task Managers and your Hero - Android Forums

All this said, the OP should avoid installing too many things at once. If stuff is installed separately, badly coded apps will be easy to spot and remove.

 

[billyidle]

The OP is likely coming from a non-Android device, thus he probably does not understand our memory management. To tell a novice user he should use a 3rd party task killer is going to come across to the novice user that it is needed and/or beneficial. All the novice needs to know is, Android does all that work for you, no extra work from him or rebooting is necessary, barring a badly written app of course.

 

[MustangGT500]

read this for example billy it will explain it a bit better for you.
Automatic Task killer - does it work on your droid? - Android Forums

btw : a taskkiller dont damage your device. here are so many people that OC their devices. that for sure brings high risk to damage it after a while. i was a novice user too not long time ago. brand new to android. and im really happy that i found this app. i dont say he HAVE TO use it. but he should give it a try. and can decide by hisself if he need it. like i said he cant damage anything.

i know how we solve our problems . i will get S. Tachibana the dev of the app for an interview up to here and he can explain by himself what de benefit of his app is for android ? deal ? ok ill contact him.

 

[xxfonziexx]

Clearly you are better informed than the rest of us because you've used a telephone for two months now. Still, people that are really quite intelligent and have a very good understanding of how this operating system works have tried to explain that it is not Windows and doesn't manage memory like it.

If it makes you feel good to have a button to push that you think makes your phone better, you keep pushing that button. Just don't insist that everyone needs to have the same security blanket that you do. Trust me, there are a lot of people using these phones and they're all running fine without getting obsessive compulsive about memory.

Your argument that a lot of people use it doesn't in any way correlate to it being useful. If you have any doubts about the intelligence of people on average, go read Youtube comments until you realize that most people are barely smart enough to keep breathing.

 

[MustangGT500]

im tired of that. ok all the people that using it and swear they have better battery life and faster system are lying its true. included me. im also lying. youre absolutely right. sorry i have better things to do as such useless conversations. so i just say ok youre all right and i have some damage in my brain that makes me thing my battery last longer and my system is faster. that we finally quit this conversation PLEASE. im just a silly stupid boy and have no knowledge from anything in the world youre right. at best i use a shotgun and blast this useless head in thousand pieces.

 

[billyidle]

It isn't needed to make your phone faster, or get better battery life, it isn't even needed to close apps. It like any other app in the market is a "preference," not a "necessity."

 

[MustangGT500]

your absolutely right ! how can i be just so wrong oh dear. your the man billy. your knowledge will survive you in hundret thousands of years. all people will tell the mythos from the all knowing man forever. thanks for bring me a piece of your unbelievable knowledge billy. i never been lighten up that much. youre the one ! many thanks dude.

 

[dnvnk]

Holy jesus, guys. Chill. Thank you for your responses, though

I think I like the idea of not having to worry about closing apps, because of my obsessive tendencies. I may try auto task killer, but advanced task killer just led to me killing all services ever 5-10 minutes.

I kind of like letting the droid do its own thing for now. I read somewhere that apps open in the background use not even 0%CPU, which means they probably don't drain battery. If I ever was playing a graphic intensive game, I'd probably just close it through the OS's app management setting.

But, Mustang, I may give auto task killer a try in the future.

should this thread be locked or something?

 

[MustangGT500]

yeah sorry. i think i was a bit upset. i agree u should try it out without a task killer and see how it works for you. so. im back on earth again mind is clear. laugh. sometimes im overreacting a bit.