GNex Lacks USB Mass Storage??!!

[JohnnytheK]

Think about it this way , instead of having one drive for the OS ( internal memory ) and one drive ( SD Card ) for media , it's going to have only one drive with the OS and a media folder on the same drive and partition instead of the SD Card , you will be able to access this via MTP .
This is not a bad thing at all , before if the device was mounted on a PC you weren't able to access the SD Card , apps installed on the SD Card , music , pics etc. , now you are able to access those files simultaneously with the PC and phone while copying data to the SD card . No need to mount the drive from the drop down menu , just connect and voila . No need to safe unmount .
And if you think it's a downgrade from the previous phones cause you won't be able to see the whole partition , thus the OS folders it's not at all . You weren't able to see the OS folders with the previous phones either cause they were on a different drive that was not mounting to the PC using UMS . All you could see was the SD card which was a media drive now replaced by a media folder .
You are still able to use Root Explorer to see the system folders from your phone if you need to . You can still use ABD to change system files on your phone from Windows .

So we don't have to panic?

Also do you drag & drop or do get some sort of syncing style of file transfer?

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[sbenson]

Drag and drop.

 

[sbenson]

This should answer everyone's questions: Impromptu Q&A Session With Android Engineer Dan Morrill Brings To Light Reasons Behind Galaxy Nexus' Lack Of USB Mass Storage

 

[techRob]

No no no this suckers electrical, but we need a memory card to generate the 1.21 gigawats of power to move the photos with mass storage. I'm making a phone out of used pinball machine parts!

And an excellent tie in ^_^

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[screaminz2002]

Nope it's true


"ICS supports USB Mass Storage (UMS). The Galaxy Nexus does not. This is the same scenario as Honeycomb, as for instance HC supports USB Mass Storage while Xoom does not.

If a given device has a removable SD card it will support USB Mass Storage. If it has only built-in storage (like Xoom and Galaxy Nexus) it will (usually) support only MTP and PTP.

It isn't physically possible to support UMS on devices that don't have a dedicated partition for storage (like a removable SD card, or a separate partition like Nexus S.) This is because UMS is a block-level protocol that gives the host PC direct access to the physical blocks on the storage, so that Android cannot have it mounted at the same time.

With the unified storage model we introduced in Honeycomb, we share your full 32GB (or 16GB or whatever) between app data and media data. That is, no more staring sadly at your 5GB free on Nexus S when your internal app data partition has filled up -- it's all one big happy volume.

However the cost is that Android can no longer ever yield up the storage for the host PC to molest directly over USB. Instead we use MTP. On Windows (which the majority of users use), it has built-in MTP support in Explorer that makes it look exactly like a disk. On Linux and Mac it's sadly not as easy, but I have confidence that we'll see some work to make this better.

On the whole it's a much better experience on the phone."

Haha I totally missed the quotes but caught the we and was thinking I was very crafty into figuring out someone was an engineer at Google Just read the article and went DOH!

 

[sbenson]

These are the options we'll have:

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[rubiksc00p]

So Benson, since you're the nexus ninja, and I'm lazy to research right now... when we format the system, what will it format? It always used to just be that the SD card was safe, now what well be safe on the phone?

 

[Donsell]

Doesn't this mean that those of us with USB inputs to our car stereos won't be able to stream media from the Nexus?

 

[Godric]

These are the options we'll have:

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Looks like ill need to transfer files from my nexus to a computer, then to a flash drive in order for my files to get on my ps3...T.T

Why couldn't they just add an SD card slot to save me all this trouble

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[Chizzele]

Doesn't this mean that those of us with USB inputs to our car stereos won't be able to stream media from the Nexus?

Basing my answer on common sense only, i believe that once connect and playing music you will have the option in you media player to stream through USB.

 

[jessenj]

My bigger issue with this is whether or not the Gnex will allow you to plug in a USB Thumb Drive via adapter to the microusb port. I hate that if I take my 32gb phone on vacation and don't bring a laptop with me, I have no way of offloading my 1080p videos (which I would assume will be huge, but haven't heard anything about the video sample rate so I don't really know yet).

 

[brad92]

My bigger issue with this is whether or not the Gnex will allow you to plug in a USB Thumb Drive via adapter to the microusb port. I hate that if I take my 32gb phone on vacation and don't bring a laptop with me, I have no way of offloading my 1080p videos (which I would assume will be huge, but haven't heard anything about the video sample rate so I don't really know yet).

I doubt that would work, but that's JMO.

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[Htown315]

My bigger issue with this is whether or not the Gnex will allow you to plug in a USB Thumb Drive via adapter to the microusb port. I hate that if I take my 32gb phone on vacation and don't bring a laptop with me, I have no way of offloading my 1080p videos (which I would assume will be huge, but haven't heard anything about the video sample rate so I don't really know yet).

^this

I know other phones can do this AND they now have microUSB drives so leave the adapter with the computer

 

[rherron]

My bigger issue with this is whether or not the Gnex will allow you to plug in a USB Thumb Drive via adapter to the microusb port. I hate that if I take my 32gb phone on vacation and don't bring a laptop with me, I have no way of offloading my 1080p videos (which I would assume will be huge, but haven't heard anything about the video sample rate so I don't really know yet).

On my RAZR, a 1 min 18 sec 1080p video I took is 94.3 MBs.

 

[jessenj]

On my RAZR, a 1 min 18 sec 1080p video I took is 94.3 MBs.

No one has posted what the codec specs used for the 1080p are. What is the container format? Is it avi/3gp/mp4? What's the bitrate? A 480p video with 5MB bitrate looks just as good as a 1080p video with 1MB bitrate. Just like in the megapixel war, it makes no difference how many pixels are used to make up the picture per se, its the amount of data and detail contained in the picture. Ever seen one of those piece of crap all in one videocams/still image cameras made by Aiptek or their similar competition? They advertise 14 megapixel and 1080p video, but if you look at the quality, they are pure garbage. The same as people who buy the FlipHD video cameras. They advertise 1080p@30fps and people see based on specs that its the same as a high def prosumer video camera, but when you look at the videos taken, they look horrible.

So, my question is - what's the average size of a 1080p video recorded on the GNex for 1 minute of video? It'd be nice to know what a 32gb model will hold in terms of recording time.