HTC Droid Incredible Retires? Incredible HD Taking Over?

[viper1549]

Go to a store and put your hands on both then decide

I appreciate what your saying, and I have. I guess I was hoping to hear pros and cons between the 2.

i have played with both and rooted both but own neither, i like the droid x better and main reason is screen, some may say inc has better camera but in my exp i loved thed x pictures, didnt try video.. if i was to cave and get a phone the x would be it for sure. Swype is a dream on the X

 

[viper1549]

Just wondering, since I have an upgrade and will now be thinking about what other options i have, what do people have against the fascinate? it certainly fills the 4" requirement

my roomate has one, love the screen and res but the fact it still dont have 2.2 is hands down the reason i dont want it.. once 2.2 comes out i can see it being more like-able but then it still wont have a 1.2ghz processor.. LOL

Don't listen to him about the processor.

Unless its dual core...its incremental and you wont notice a huge jump on difference.

Why ya gotta scare the kid viper?? Oh, and 2.2 will be out within the next 2 weeks..

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thanks ill let my roomate know.. he cant stand being stuck on 2.1 anymore and is about to get the DX

 

[sb1831]

Firstly, I never said they would have the same names. I actually do believe that they will have different names (Incredible 2, Incredible 2 4g).

Making two phones actually does make a lot of sense. I think you are just looking at short run which you take into account diminishing marginal returns after another is released. The long run, for a phone released now, doesn't take this into account and serves to gratify a broader, lower scale market of 3g users, as compared to the more expensive and faster LTE.

There is more profitability in twenty 3g users and five 4g users as compared to fifteen 4g users.

Manufacturing costs are EXTREMELY minimal when producing two different versions of the phone. The only difference is swapping out the radio which will not be as costly as manufacturing a completely different phone.

People assume that everyone is going to rush out and buy LTE phones and pay the extra data fee, but this is in fact not true. As I stated before, LTE isn't implemented in the majority of the US, where 3g is, so people are not going to be as willing to spend the extra money and Verizon acknowledges this. Thus, offering a 3g version will expand to a much bigger market of 3g users and isn't just focused to the domain of 4g users, and will continue until Verizon rolls out LTE to 70% of the US.

Also, I don't know what you're talking about product life cycle? This will still be selling even when a 4g version is out, so there is no reason to rush. Also have you not seen that there has been $0 spent on marketing for this phone as of now?

So yeah, two phones :blush:

I will try to brake this down Barney Style as we used to call it in the Corps.The original Incredible was a high end model with its 199$ pricetag with 2 year contract. Verizon itself claims to have over 290m wireless users. Now with that being said they're on schedule to have 100m of those customers covered and probably a little less half total when you add in the ammount of users that commute on a daily basis from one area to the next. I live in a 3g aread but LTE will be available where I work. So you're probably looking at another 20-50(being generous with 50) million users that will have access to LTE. Now you're looking at over HALF of the users having access to LTE when it initially rolls out.

The names you suggested still put the products in an area where the true problem arrises. You have 2 phones out, with the same name. One which you claim to be for the lower scale 3 g market. Last time I checked lower scale 3g maket people don't go out and buy the most expensive phone in the store. Techies maybe, the typical consumer NO. You have phone released with no marketing bearing the Incredible name/brand. If this product DOESN'T sell, you have then done possibly irreparable damage to the Incredible name. The equity you have built in the name has diminished greatly.

Its not a debate over whether the phone would sell it would given the incredible name. BUT does it sell well enough to GAIN name equity before the launch of the next device to that people aren't pushed away from it. If you'd like to discuss consumer behavior and product naming shoot me a PM it was part of my grad studies. I'd be interested to hear from you since you seem to have a bit of marketing knowledge. I bet it would be much easier to reach a common ground that way.

Another thing. And I don't know much about building handsets computers are as far as I go but to assume its nothing more than a radio change might be a bit presumptuous. Chances are this could need a whole new mobo, processor, its obviously going to need a new location for a sim card. I think people are underestimating how EASY it is to fit a lot more gear in a same sized shell without heat problems.

Maybe we have a tech guy that can give us some insight but I don't know any personally. Tech GUYS???

 

[Florida]

Go to a store and put your hands on both then decide

I appreciate what your saying, and I have. I guess I was hoping to hear pros and cons between the 2.

i have played with both and rooted both but own neither, i like the droid x better and main reason is screen, some may say inc has better camera but in my exp i loved thed x pictures, didnt try video.. if i was to cave and get a phone the x would be it for sure. Swype is a dream on the X

Thanks Viper. As I said, I'm leaning towards the X. Just need a push. lol

 

[Arkbird]

hmm I can't say I'm angry since technically we aren't supposed to know about it since it "doesn't exist." I guess I'll be waiting a little longer for this then

 

[cereal killer]

depressing.. boy do i feel like an idiot getting all bent out of shape to be proven a fool! anyone have spare crow? hahahaha

You will learn one day young grasshopper : )

You were all fired up and angry at me lol "no its coming!!! its coming!!!" "Ck is a fool!"

Rookies : )



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[proview3r]

awww so sad... I was hoping I could get rid of my LG Dare, guess I have to hang on to it longer than expected...

 

[Martin030908]

dang it, was playing hockey tonight and i come back to find out my upgrade doesn't have a partner to upgrade to....

 

[Vanilla Ice]

dang it, was playing hockey tonight and i come back to find out my upgrade doesn't have a partner to upgrade to....

yeah i just found out too. it sucks! miami is still the man tho. maybe ill buy the dx and ship it to him so he can root it for me. haha. oh well, im sure well hear from him soon..

 

[timbotx]

Benn looking at youtube of Fascinate.. with LauncherPro it might be ok? The screen I love. So, DX or Fascinate?

 

[Vanilla Ice]

^ oops, i thought you were taking about the bad news. lol

 

[Martin030908]

^ oops, i thought you were taking about the bad news. lol

I was, I'm in need of a new toy, my D1 and I are growing apart... what to do now.....

 

[timbotx]

^ oops, i thought you were taking about the bad news. lol

I was, I'm in need of a new toy, my D1 and I are growing apart... what to do now.....

Trying to figure out that one myself

 

[Martin030908]

^ oops, i thought you were taking about the bad news. lol

I was, I'm in need of a new toy, my D1 and I are growing apart... what to do now.....

Trying to figure out that one myself

I hate to upgrade now and have new devices roll out in January.... but at the same time I'm a lil' impatient

 

[sb1831]

And for those that say things don't change in 48 hours?! THEY DO. Prior to getting into my current gig I was part a a corporation that produced lets just say long range high precision rifles. We were competing for a contract and had been under the assumption that this rifles was wanted in a certain caliber. LONG story short 72 hours before the SHOT show we found out that the requirements called for a different caliber AND the ability for barrel change in under 1:30 with 1 man. Long story short, that project was scrapped for the govt contract and it became a very well selling well built precision rifle available for Military and LEO purchase. Things really DO happen at the last minute. Especially when NDAs and big contracts are on the line.