I'm talking mostly aesthetics here, not performance. I agree with you completely that it doesn't take a toll on the system the way it use to, I actually like the way Samsung devices perform as of late, not as great as AOSP, but better than it use to. LG is the same way. Even if it doesn't take away from the system like it use to, it's still taking away. I've seen and used an S5, what kind of android junkie would I be if I didn't. There's still noticeable glitches, and it's just too much in there. IMO Sense is the only skin worth having, and I'm not a huge HTC fan by any means.