Jailbroken Iphone 4 vs Rooted andorid

[czerdrill]

You can do plenty with a jailbroken iphone including tethering with PDANet, theming (everything, icons, status bar, everything), no need to overclock because the iphone performs just fine, status notifier which will notify you in your status bar (android phans like to whine about this), xgps, widgets, live wallpapers

there's a ton more things that you can do...saying "a rooted android blows a jailbroken iphone out of the water" with no other examples to back it up is pointless.

this comes down to people who've never used an iphone commenting on what it can and cant do...

and to the people who say "you're forced to have a itunes account no matter what"...aren't you forced to have a google account to use an android phone? (i mean i dont even think you can use the calendar function on the android phone if you don't sign in...someone correct me if i'm wrong) so...how is this any different?

 

[Dusty]

I asked this before but never got a confirmed answer.

Is ther no utility for a JAILBROKEN Iphone similiar to Rom Manager that allows a user to make backup images of their phone and restore them later?

Also, Alot of people are talking about the constant itunes updates that break root and force you to jailbreak again, but if you're jailbroken, why would you update itunes anyway?

If I ever go to an iphone my goal would be to never use Itunes except maybe for the very first setup on the device. Is this not possible with the jailbreak tools that are out there?

You don't update iTunes. You have to use iTunes to install your iPhone software updates and OS. When you do it erases everything on your phone, installs new software, and restores your music, non-jailbroken apps, pictures, and videos. Everything else like your jailbreak, jailbroken apps, and stored "stuff" gets erased because they're not Apple approved files. Apple updates iOS 2-4 times per year and if you don't then you may find that you lack new features. Also, incompatibilities may arise with apps that also update to keep up with improvements.

 

[Godric]

iPhone is a jail, that's why people break out of it. However, you are still stuck with being chained to iTunes, can't customize much. What you can do with a jail broken iphone is the same thing you can do with a stock android phone out of the box. That phone is dead technology and you're an idiot if you get one, even more of a dumb ass if you switch to the verizon one.

 

[Dusty]

You can do plenty with a jailbroken iphone including tethering with PDANet, theming (everything, icons, status bar, everything), no need to overclock because the iphone performs just fine, status notifier which will notify you in your status bar (android phans like to whine about this), xgps

there's a ton more things that you can do...saying "a rooted android blows a jailbroken iphone out of the water" with no other examples to back it up is pointless.

this comes down to people who've never used an iphone commenting on what it can and cant do...

and to the people who say "you're forced to have a itunes account no matter what"...aren't you forced to have a google account to use an android phone? (i mean i dont even think you can use the calendar function on the android phone if you don't sign in...someone correct me if i'm wrong) so...how is this any different?

I don't know about that. If you check out the forum thread here about user desktops it's obvious that you have way more customization options than a jailbroken iPhone. And as far as being forced to use Google, you don't have to be rooted to install programs just by downloading APKs online, you can use any email server you want, and you can use a personal outlook calendar or iCal instead of Google calendar. You could just about do anything without using any thing made by Google. Even your updates come directly over the air from your carrier and not Google.

Besides that, you don't have to root your Android device to use PDAnet but you have to jailbreak to tether an iPhone (without paying for a hotspot).

Apple is way more restrictive, but what that does is provide a more consistant user experience. I'll admit it's a damn good platform but I, personally, am not compelled to switch unless the manufacturers or VZW does something to really annoy or restrict me, which they haven't. If Motorola or Google tightened their leash to the same extent as Apple I'd be giving every mobile OS serious consideration. the only thing I'm a fanboy of is myself and 'm going with the best option for ME.

 

[czerdrill]

iPhone is a jail, that's why people break out of it. However, you are still stuck with being chained to iTunes, can't customize much. What you can do with a jail broken iphone is the same thing you can do with a stock android phone out of the box. That phone is dead technology and you're an idiot if you get one, even more of a dumb ass if you switch to the verizon one.

then there will be millions upon millions upon millions of dumb asses, because plenty will switch

 

[czerdrill]

You can do plenty with a jailbroken iphone including tethering with PDANet, theming (everything, icons, status bar, everything), no need to overclock because the iphone performs just fine, status notifier which will notify you in your status bar (android phans like to whine about this), xgps

there's a ton more things that you can do...saying "a rooted android blows a jailbroken iphone out of the water" with no other examples to back it up is pointless.

this comes down to people who've never used an iphone commenting on what it can and cant do...

and to the people who say "you're forced to have a itunes account no matter what"...aren't you forced to have a google account to use an android phone? (i mean i dont even think you can use the calendar function on the android phone if you don't sign in...someone correct me if i'm wrong) so...how is this any different?

I don't know about that. If you check out the forum thread here about user desktops it's obvious that you have way more customization options than a jailbroken iPhone. And as far as being forced to use Google, you don't have to be rooted to install programs just by downloading APKs online, you can use any email server you want, and you can use a personal outlook calendar or iCal instead of Google calendar. You could just about do anything without using any thing made by Google. Even your updates come directly over the air from your carrier and not Google.

Besides that, you don't have to root your Android device to use PDAnet.

Apple is way more restrictive, but what that does is it gives them a more consistant user experience.

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You can go through that whole thread and see...There's PLENTY of differences from stock iOS homescreens, including live wallpapers, widgets, different types of docks, battery icons, app icons...not sure what you're looking for...the customization options are identical...just depends on your imagination...there are TONS of themes available for iOS

and yes...you can argue that you can do whatever you want by not using Google...but does that really make sense? is that really practical? the number of people who strictly use downloaded apks as opposed to the Android Market can be probably be counted on your fingers. The number of people who don't ever sign into Google on their Android phone can probably be counted on one hand...your argument really doesn't hold water because your alluding to something that probably NEVER happens.

 

[bigsapz]

When hacked, they're pretty much identical. You're basically just choosing between a HIGHLY polished operating system & the freedom to pick your hardware. Out of the box though, I believe android gets the nod.

Obviously you have little experience w/ a jailbroken iphone. There is NOTHING identical about the 2 hacked phones.

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[Ryan m]

+1 to that. Google makes it easy to back up contacts, data, calendar and so on but it is not required. With android you have many choices and yes I am a former apple user my i*hone 3g was jailbroken and there realy is quite a bit of customization you can do but compaired to a OG droid... not so much. and you say there is no need to O/C i*hone well honestly there isn't realy the need to on most android devices either. This question will never have one rite side, its all preference however IMO having used both extensivly I love my OG droid and wouldn't take any i-device over it now or ever. Again this is just my openion but look at linux there are statisticly more people on windows and macs than linux however linux is superior if you know what your doing, I don't think anyone is dumb for buying an i*hone if you want steve jobs cramming his i*crap down your throat then by all means do so but there is and will always be more possible from android that apple.

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[bigsapz]

I'll try to address all your points. Again, I'm not taking sides just posting my concerns.

I really don't plan on using itunes ever! I would look for a jailbreak app that would allow me drag and drop capability.

Don't have to worry about spotty service, I'll be staying on verizon.

I hear you can customize using winterboard.

LTE will be a long time coming where I live, I am not in a big city so I wouldn't really be "wasting" an upgrade discount.

Winterboard customization can't match an Android device... rooted or unrooted. Not even close! LauncherPro does more cosmeticly to your Droid than Winterboard does to an iPhone.

Just to get drag and drop capability you have to jailbreak, install cydia, download the app, and configure. All for something that you can do right out of the box without rooting on an Android device. And if you don't take the proper precautions (backups) you could lose all of your data that you've dragged and dropped. Remember... If your jailbroken iPhone decides to take a dump and you have to reload your OS you'll lose EVERYTHING because you aren't backed up through itunes and your memory is imbedded in your phone as opposed to a fairly isolated SD card.

No matter what, you're chained to iTunes sooner or later.

True, spotty service is an AT&T thing.

The city thing... well. Can't help ya there.

Do what you like, but the grass definitely isn't greener on the other side of the fence. I used the iPhone for 7 months and I've been using Android for over a year. After living with both I can say without a doubt that the iPhone isn't good enough to take me from Android. Been there done that and I'm sticking with what I've got. Literally, I'm a customer for Android to lose, and they haven't done anything to warrant my switching platforms.

Well said. I concur

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[czerdrill]

When hacked, they're pretty much identical. You're basically just choosing between a HIGHLY polished operating system & the freedom to pick your hardware. Out of the box though, I believe android gets the nod.

Obviously you have little experience w/ a jailbroken iphone. There is NOTHING identical about the 2 hacked phones.

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It would help to provide examples of what a rooted android can do, that a jailbroken iphone can't. If ROMS is your only argument, that's weak. ROMS increase performance and theme your phone. iOS doesn't need any performance increase and you can theme your iPhone just fine.

 

[Dusty]

and to the people who say "you're forced to have a itunes account no matter what"...aren't you forced to have a google account to use an android phone? (i mean i dont even think you can use the calendar function on the android phone if you don't sign in...someone correct me if i'm wrong)

and yes...you can argue that you can do whatever you want by not using Google...but does that really make sense? is that really practical? the number of people who strictly use downloaded apks as opposed to the Android Market can be probably be counted on your fingers. The number of people who don't ever sign into Google on their Android phone can probably be counted on one hand...your argument really doesn't hold water because your alluding to something that probably NEVER happens.

You're the one who said that we're forced to use Google. I''m just pointing out that that's incorrect. I never said it would be easy. Just like trying to eliminate using iTunes. The difference is, is that you can use Android without having anything to do with Google. You can't use an iPhone without EVER having to use iTunes. That's all I'm saying.

 

[bigsapz]

When hacked, they're pretty much identical. You're basically just choosing between a HIGHLY polished operating system & the freedom to pick your hardware. Out of the box though, I believe android gets the nod.

Obviously you have little experience w/ a jailbroken iphone. There is NOTHING identical about the 2 hacked phones.

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It would help to provide examples of what a rooted android can do, that a jailbroken iphone can't. If ROMS is your only argument, that's weak. ROMS increase performance and theme your phone. iOS doesn't need any performance increase and you can theme your iPhone just fine.

Didnt feel the need to repeat what has already been said but here's a two word answer for ya. "OPEN SOURCE"

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[beavis29290]

Both phones do alot I have a droid x now and will not be switching but to anyone who's thinlong about it u wont be dissapointed

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[Dusty]

It would help to provide examples of what a rooted android can do, that a jailbroken iphone can't.

I can email an app (APK) to an Android phone and you can install it on the spot. You don't even have to be rooted for that. I don't even think you can email a song to someone and play it on an iphone.

You asked for an example and that's one. That's all I'm saying. I'm not arguing usefulness or practicality (although it is). I'm just stating an instance that you requested.

 

[Ryan m]

And for what its worth android is just more fun

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