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Mysterious Device Now With November 23 Launch date

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On a SERIOUS NOTE. (please just move on from my previous posts.) Isn't ANYONE a bit hesitant to upgrade to a first gen LTE phone? Thats part of the reason I'm going to upgrade to a new phone this winter on a 1 year contract, because by this time next year 2nd and possibly 3rd gen phones will be out that have the bugs worked out. Remember we ARE going to a pretty much new technology over here stateside. I mean shyte they just had problems with the 4th gen Iphone LOL.

I'm thinking the same thing. I think it's worth it to just spend the extra $70 to get some flexibility. We can always Ebay the thing too and by the new version on a month2month contract.

I'm due for an upgrade mid NOV so I think if something comes out with something then i MAY be tempted but I kinda want to see what HTC has in stock, and then LG. Remember HTC was a relatively unknown with the exception of the Tilt and Tityn on AT&T until the produced th G1 now look at them. I dont think LG would go big like this unless they were TRULY planning something mind blowing.
 
LOL did you forget the utter shyte they tried to pass off as cellular phones when they made the switch from analogue to digital? Dropped calls constantly, dead zones where you were supposed to have full coverage. Failure of phone to transfer from one tower to the next, etc. If Apple can screw up a radio and an antenna in the ONE handset they produce, I have no reason to believe companies pumping out a couple new phones every 2-3 moths are are going to put out a product or two that doesn't live up to the hype.

And that companies screw up a handset now and again isn't particularly relevant, as your Apple example proves - it was 3G to a 3G handset. I think analog to digital is apples and oranges to 3G to LTE. When an engineer says "just swap the radio" that limits the risk pretty much to the radio and sim card, which they've been testing for months and will be proven in the PC card biz for months before the handsets come out.

Just saying I don't think the risk of this "new" tech being screwed up is any more or less than your typical handset. It strikes me as a chicken little argument and is no reason to stay away from LTE.
 
Yeah so i have read... but i still think you should close this thread... create a thread that only mods can post in, that has all the information that we know to date... and then as we receive new info that they are allowed to share...they can post it without all the badgering

Why have a forum at all? Why did you even create a handle? Why are you even posting if you think nobody should be able to post?

A handle??? what are you Burt Reynolds in smokie and the bandit rocking a CB Radio??? come on now.... Its all well and good to post on here but dont act like a spoiled lil brat that doesnt get his way and demand things from a guy that could easily just say well sorry about your luck i aint sharing wthat i know

Dude, seriously... Just stop arguing. You're gonna get this thread closed, and by the look of your posts, it seems like you want to. Please man, just stop.

Its not ridiculous to make demands when it is money out of my pocket to pay for something.

What are you 5?? its called you wait til it comes out... and then go try it in the damn store... badgering Miami to post information is stupid... i wanna see it and hear about it just as much as you do ... and i want the phone but there is no way in hell ill consider buying it without trying it out in the store and then doing the research on it after its released.... and if your that worried about hte money in your pocket you will do the same.... grow up kid and realize that you have to wait and be patient and Miami is doing this for yall... he could be like **** yall i know what is coming you dont so ha ha sucks for you... (i know i would do that) but he is trying to spread the information as he gets it ... so people shut the **** up about it

Again, what is the need tp insult other members when they are simply defending what they believe? Unnecessary.

Yes from the sounds of it it is gonna be an awesome phone... and like i said i check on here several times just to see if there is any new info on the release but i cant stand having to sift through 150 pages of non sense and complaining... this is a thread that everyone is watching to gain information and all everyone is doing is cluttering it up with garbage. I mean i aint gonna be pre ordering or standing in line at 1am to buy the phone... ill do my research , look at reviews on it , read the specs carefully and compare them to every other phone and then ill make may choice ... but its gonna be an AMAZING phone with good battery life and have something completely different that i cant get on my D1 for me to upgrade so im trying to gain as much info as i can without badgering and complaining about miami and thats the approach everyone should take

In the past 10 pages, I have seen one person badger Miami to post info.. For the most part, people just stopped with the badgering and some of this thread may be filled with garbage, but a lot of this thread is also discussion about features that the phone might end up having, and discussion is WAY different than senseless garbage.

Can a Mod please get this DKunch character out of here. Are you kidding me with these posts??? The guy is posting SPAM and about not posting SPAM.

Just add him to your ignore list, it's in the User CP.

If you are going to a restuarant are you not going to demand fresh food? Are you not going to demand good service? Yes you are because you are paying them for it. Why wouldn't that apply to everything you pay for? If I'm going to spend $200 on a phone and then another $2500 on the service, then you bet your butt I'm going to e demanding some things from VZW. Wow, I can't beleive people are actually arguing this point. Its called supply and demand.

I could not agree more. If you are going to buy a car and you're buying it brand new for full price, if the car has some dents here or there, are you still going to buy it? No, because you're paying for a new car and you should be receiving what you pay for, not a "like new" car that has a few dents.

Sorry if that was a bad analogy, but it's 3:30 am and I'm extremely tired.

So, If this phone comes out, how much are you guys planning on spending on accessories and cases for it?
 
LOL did you forget the utter shyte they tried to pass off as cellular phones when they made the switch from analogue to digital? Dropped calls constantly, dead zones where you were supposed to have full coverage. Failure of phone to transfer from one tower to the next, etc. If Apple can screw up a radio and an antenna in the ONE handset they produce, I have no reason to believe companies pumping out a couple new phones every 2-3 moths are are going to put out a product or two that doesn't live up to the hype.

And that companies screw up a handset now and again isn't particularly relevant, as your Apple example proves - it was 3G to a 3G handset. I think analog to digital is apples and oranges to 3G to LTE. When an engineer says "just swap the radio" that limits the risk pretty much to the radio and sim card, which they've been testing for months and will be proven in the PC card biz for months before the handsets come out.

Just saying I don't think the risk of this "new" tech being screwed up is any more or less than your typical handset. It strikes me as a chicken little argument and is no reason to stay away from LTE.

Exactly my thoughts. All of the LTE phones will be CDMA/LTE for awhile since Verizon is planning on still using their considerable CDMA footprint for voice.
Companies have been making dual-radio World Phones for some time now without issue.... It wouldn't be any different.
 
Hmm... I'd say to expect some news most likely on Tuesday or Wednesday, maybe even late Monday night, but mostly Tuesday or Wednesday.
 
If you are going to a restuarant are you not going to demand fresh food? Are you not going to demand good service? Yes you are because you are paying them for it. Why wouldn't that apply to everything you pay for? If I'm going to spend $200 on a phone and then another $2500 on the service, then you bet your butt I'm going to e demanding some things from VZW. Wow, I can't beleive people are actually arguing this point. Its called supply and demand.

I could not agree more. If you are going to buy a car and you're buying it brand new for full price, if the car has some dents here or there, are you still going to buy it? No, because you're paying for a new car and you should be receiving what you pay for, not a "like new" car that has a few dents.

Sorry if that was a bad analogy, but it's 3:30 am and I'm extremely tired.

So, If this phone comes out, how much are you guys planning on spending on accessories and cases for it?


If you're going to buy a car you know EXACTLY what is in that car if you don't you're a fool. However to think that I can sit on an internet forum and DEMAND anything of a car manufacturer is ridiculous. THAT is the point I am making. When I go to look for a new vehicle YES, I will demand that my car comes off the lot absolutely spotless and without a dent. BUT I think the car manufacturer knows a good bit more about the manufacturing process of a car and what features are feasible in a car to keep it at a price point I will still buy.


You're completely missing the point that if I don't LIKE what is offered in the car, I DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. Just like a meal thats not to standard and a car that has dents in it. I don't sit around and complain or demand that the car that I want right now doesn't have the features I want. I simply look elsewhere or wait for the next model. NOT that hard to comprehend in my opinion.
 
If you are going to a restuarant are you not going to demand fresh food? Are you not going to demand good service? Yes you are because you are paying them for it. Why wouldn't that apply to everything you pay for? If I'm going to spend $200 on a phone and then another $2500 on the service, then you bet your butt I'm going to e demanding some things from VZW. Wow, I can't beleive people are actually arguing this point. Its called supply and demand.

I could not agree more. If you are going to buy a car and you're buying it brand new for full price, if the car has some dents here or there, are you still going to buy it? No, because you're paying for a new car and you should be receiving what you pay for, not a "like new" car that has a few dents.

Sorry if that was a bad analogy, but it's 3:30 am and I'm extremely tired.

So, If this phone comes out, how much are you guys planning on spending on accessories and cases for it?


If you're going to buy a car you know EXACTLY what is in that car if you don't you're a fool. However to think that I can sit on an internet forum and DEMAND anything of a car manufacturer is ridiculous. THAT is the point I am making. When I go to look for a new vehicle YES, I will demand that my car comes off the lot absolutely spotless and without a dent. BUT I think the car manufacturer knows a good bit more about the manufacturing process of a car and what features are feasible in a car to keep it at a price point I will still buy.


You're completely missing the point that if I don't LIKE what is offered in the car, I DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. Just like a meal thats not to standard and a car that has dents in it. I don't sit around and complain or demand that the car that I want right now doesn't have the features I want. I simply look elsewhere or wait for the next model. NOT that hard to comprehend in my opinion.

Lol. Relax, bro. It's just an opinion.
 
You're completely missing the point that if I don't LIKE what is offered in the car, I DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. Just like a meal thats not to standard and a car that has dents in it. I don't sit around and complain or demand that the car that I want right now doesn't have the features I want. I simply look elsewhere or wait for the next model. NOT that hard to comprehend in my opinion.

No, you're missing the point. No one is saying that this phone MUST have anything, simply that it MUST have those things if we are going to buy it.

Using the car analogy, what we are saying would be akin to "if Chevy really wants to sell me a truck, it'll get 25mpg".... now, since Chevy doesn't make a truck with 25mpg, we would obviously look elsewhere.... but we could still say to each other "damn I wish Chevy made a truck that gets 25mpg."


So.... if HTC wants to ever sell me a phone again it better have a better battery than my Inc, and have LTE. My last 3g phone will be an Apple vPhone, HTC's only hope to bring me back is to sell me my first 4g phone...
 
You're completely missing the point that if I don't LIKE what is offered in the car, I DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. Just like a meal thats not to standard and a car that has dents in it. I don't sit around and complain or demand that the car that I want right now doesn't have the features I want. I simply look elsewhere or wait for the next model. NOT that hard to comprehend in my opinion.

No, you're missing the point. No one is saying that this phone MUST have anything, simply that it MUST have those things if we are going to buy it.

Using the car analogy, what we are saying would be akin to "if Chevy really wants to sell me a truck, it'll get 25mpg".... now, since Chevy doesn't make a truck with 25mpg, we would obviously look elsewhere.... but we could still say to each other "damn I wish Chevy made a truck that gets 25mpg."


So.... if HTC wants to ever sell me a phone again it better have a better battery than my Inc, and have LTE. My last 3g phone will be an Apple vPhone, HTC's only hope to bring me back is to sell me my first 4g phone...

Again wasnt trying to single you or BD1212 out or ANYONE for that matter. Its just that a ive read a lot in this thread especially where people seem to think their entitled to demand anything from someone they willing buy a service from. People bashing a company just because theyre not getting everything they think they need.

They run a business just like I do. If one of my clients came in and demanded that I change the service that I provided because they werent getting something they really didn't need, I would laugh at them, then wish them luck and hope they stayed alive. Customers and clients like that don't make or break a business.

Do I understand where they're coming from? Yeah. Can I offer the same services with their demands being met at the same price? NO. Are they willing to pay more for their demands that really aren't necessary? In most cases NO.
 
So.... if HTC wants to ever sell me a phone again it better have a better battery than my Inc, and have LTE. My last 3g phone will be an Apple vPhone, HTC's only hope to bring me back is to sell me my first 4g phone...

LOL, someone finally gets it. I have no issue with people demanding something from HTC.

What I don't get in this thread is all the misdirected vitriol for VZW. VZW isn't in the business of selling phones. They don't make money on phones. On the contrary, the phones cost them money via a subsidy.

Sure, VZW makes money indirectly off the phones. But with LTE right around the corner I seriously doubt they are worried about the relatively small amount of customers they might lose. Carriers are losing customers all the time on the margin who care more about the hardware than the service. VZW has literally 150-200k subscribers coming up on contract each DAY. They'll obviously take a longer-term view on customer acquisition and retention. On any given day, there's always 10k customers or more who are going to jump for the latest tech (and this applies with other carriers, too). That's just the nature of the business. So VZW can keep/lose/gain those 10k customers today or next month, it's a wash that won't drive decisions.
 
Threads that are concerning highly anticipated devices always seem to get a little off track which is fine, but the disrespect for fellow members, name calling, and badgering will not be tolerated - this thread will be closed and a new one on this subject would be questionable if this continues, it would be a lose - lose situation for everyone involved - lets not go that route

Instead of feeding into negative behavior just report the post and move forward -
 
Threads that are concerning highly anticipated devices always seem to get a little off track which is fine, but the disrespect for fellow members, name calling, and badgering will not be tolerated - this thread will be closed and a new one on this subject would be questionable if this continues, it would be a lose - lose situation for everyone involved - lets not go that route

Instead of feeding into negative behavior just report the post and move forward -

Thank you TP76......

Rumor: Droid Incredible HD Could be Very High Resolution, LTE, and More | AndroidGuys

Everything I read has this display being improved upon.......Can not wait
 
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