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What do you mean "you may tune in a game or two"?
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I'd still take Ovie over Crosby in a heartbeat.
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Yeah, as if a guy from Quitsburgh is going to be unbiased about that. :biggrin:
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Crosby is better all around, as far as backchecking, etc. And has a Stanley Cup ring and Gold Medal to prove it. Crosby does a ton more things like defensive play than Ovechkin and still has as many goals as Ovechkin so far, and that is Ovechkin's bread and butter. Crosby also doesn't have people like Backstrom and Semin on his line, either. He has an old guy that is due to retire and can barely keep up and Kunitz who usually couldn't get on the scoresheet if you forged his name into it.
I might actually watch some NHL. Is NHL play as good as international play? From what I gather my home town team...Thrashers...suck pretty hard.
Uhm, no it's because Crosby's got a better team around him. Ovechkin's all over game is better, sorry man. I'd build a team around him before Crysby. Either way, neither of them are on my team so all in all I'd take both if given an opportunity. Pretty sure they both outscore any 2 players from my team.
I'd still take Ovie hands down. As would a good plenty of NHL fans.
For a fan that grew up watching the game, the regular season? No. The playoffs? Yeah.
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Over all game is better? Have you ever watched Ovechkin actually PLAY defense..uh no....he doesn't. Crosby is ALWAYS the first forward back to play defense.
Crosby plays with two mediocre wingers, Guerin, who should retire, and Kunitz, who care barely get on the scoresheet. Ovechkin is playing with Semin and Backstrom. Night and friggin day.
Read my whole post that I edited before you responded.
Crosby plays with two mediocre wingers, Guerin, who should retire, and Kunitz, who care barely get on the scoresheet. Ovechkin is playing with Semin and Backstrom. Night and friggin day.
Read my whole post that I edited before you responded.
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I think so, obviously. I watch over a 100 games a year. Much more exciting than watching basketball players score 50 times a game, or degenerate football guys that get busted for anything from murder to illegal firearm possession, you name it. Or steroid using baseball players.
Look dude, you're biased. No point in even trying, you'll never see it. It's nice you like the guy and if he was on my team, I may have a different outlook on him. Yeah, I've watched games by both guys. It's not just me, it's a pretty widespread feeling around the league Ovie is better. You can try and play semantics all around, just doesn't cut what most folks see. Ovechkin is a better all around player.
Enjoy him, he's on your team. Support the hell out of him and be happy you've got a player of his caliber on your team. Hopefully Fletcher will get us to that point someday.
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Let's see...
Ovechkin....lost to the Penguins and Sid in the playoffs.
Ovechkin...didn't even medal in the Olympics.
Apparently the General Managers disagree with you as well. So not quite sure where this "all around the league" stuff comes from.
Ovechkin....lost to the Penguins and Sid in the playoffs.
Ovechkin...didn't even medal in the Olympics.
Apparently the General Managers disagree with you as well. So not quite sure where this "all around the league" stuff comes from.
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Crosby shines, Ovechkin fizzles in Olympic battle between hockey stars
By: Bill Beacon, The Canadian Press
24/02/2010 11:46 PM | Comments: 0
But Crosby was a clear winner in the battle of the two hockey superstars in Canada's 7-3 victory over Ovechkin's Russians in the quarter-finals at the 2010 Olympics.
While the 22-year-old Crosby was held off the scoresheet, the Pittsburgh Penguins captain still played a solid two-way game and did his part to help win the game. He saw 17 minutes 34 seconds of ice time.
Ovechkin was a long way from his usual dazzling self, going without a point and finishing minus-2 despite a team-leading 21:15 of ice time — most of it spent being decidedly unthreatening on attack.
Wednesday's game was supposed to showcase Sid the Kid and Alex The Great, but instead it turned into a display of Canadian determination and a disappearing act by the Russians, who were done in by turnovers and weak goaltending from Evgeni Nabokov, who was yanked in the second period after allowing a sixth goal.
''What do you think? I'm disappointed,'' said Ovechkin.
''I think we weren't ready for the first five minutes and when we woke up it was too late," he added. "It was 3-0 and it was hard to come back, especially in that kind of game.''
Ovechkin did not create any exceptional scoring chances, although he ended up with three of his team's 28 shots. And his careless passes in his own zone were picked off by Canadian forecheckers a handful of times.
Before the game, there was anticipation that the six-foot-two 230-pound Ovechkin would be cruising for crushing hits like the one he laid on Czech star Jaromir Jagr in round-robin play, but there were none this time.
Instead, early in the game Canadian defenceman Shea Weber nailed Ovechkin twice with big hits and Drew Doughty took him solidly into the boards on another occasion.
Canadian coach Mike Babcock put together a line of Jonathan Toews, Mike Richards and Rick Nash to face Ovechkin, his Washington teammate Alexander Semin and Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and, even though Russia had last line change, got the matchup for much of the night.
The Toews line not only held them off, but it provided a goal from Nash.
''We had what it takes to frustrate them,'' said Toews. ''Richie and Nash are both great skaters and they play two-way hockey during the year so they're used to that.
''As long as we kept the puck, that's defence too, when you keep it down in their zone. And we just tried to play hard against them every time they got close to our net.''
At the 2006 Games in Turin, Italy, Ovechkin scored the winning goal that eliminated Canada in the quarter-finals, although the Russians also failed to win a medal. And Ovechkin leads Crosby 2-1 in Hart trophies as the NHL's most valuable player. The two are tied with one NHL scoring title apiece.
But Crosby leads in Stanley Cups. The Cole Harbour, N.S. native has won one in two trips to the NHL final. Ovechkin hasn't been close to a final, and his Capitals were ousted from the playoffs last spring by Crosby's Penguins.
By: Bill Beacon, The Canadian Press
24/02/2010 11:46 PM | Comments: 0
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But Crosby was a clear winner in the battle of the two hockey superstars in Canada's 7-3 victory over Ovechkin's Russians in the quarter-finals at the 2010 Olympics.
While the 22-year-old Crosby was held off the scoresheet, the Pittsburgh Penguins captain still played a solid two-way game and did his part to help win the game. He saw 17 minutes 34 seconds of ice time.
Ovechkin was a long way from his usual dazzling self, going without a point and finishing minus-2 despite a team-leading 21:15 of ice time — most of it spent being decidedly unthreatening on attack.
Wednesday's game was supposed to showcase Sid the Kid and Alex The Great, but instead it turned into a display of Canadian determination and a disappearing act by the Russians, who were done in by turnovers and weak goaltending from Evgeni Nabokov, who was yanked in the second period after allowing a sixth goal.
''What do you think? I'm disappointed,'' said Ovechkin.
''I think we weren't ready for the first five minutes and when we woke up it was too late," he added. "It was 3-0 and it was hard to come back, especially in that kind of game.''
Ovechkin did not create any exceptional scoring chances, although he ended up with three of his team's 28 shots. And his careless passes in his own zone were picked off by Canadian forecheckers a handful of times.
Before the game, there was anticipation that the six-foot-two 230-pound Ovechkin would be cruising for crushing hits like the one he laid on Czech star Jaromir Jagr in round-robin play, but there were none this time.
Instead, early in the game Canadian defenceman Shea Weber nailed Ovechkin twice with big hits and Drew Doughty took him solidly into the boards on another occasion.
Canadian coach Mike Babcock put together a line of Jonathan Toews, Mike Richards and Rick Nash to face Ovechkin, his Washington teammate Alexander Semin and Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and, even though Russia had last line change, got the matchup for much of the night.
The Toews line not only held them off, but it provided a goal from Nash.
''We had what it takes to frustrate them,'' said Toews. ''Richie and Nash are both great skaters and they play two-way hockey during the year so they're used to that.
''As long as we kept the puck, that's defence too, when you keep it down in their zone. And we just tried to play hard against them every time they got close to our net.''
At the 2006 Games in Turin, Italy, Ovechkin scored the winning goal that eliminated Canada in the quarter-finals, although the Russians also failed to win a medal. And Ovechkin leads Crosby 2-1 in Hart trophies as the NHL's most valuable player. The two are tied with one NHL scoring title apiece.
But Crosby leads in Stanley Cups. The Cole Harbour, N.S. native has won one in two trips to the NHL final. Ovechkin hasn't been close to a final, and his Capitals were ousted from the playoffs last spring by Crosby's Penguins.
Sure thing guy. Whatever honks your hooter.
I can find plenty of quotes and articles to support my point as well. Hell, try a 2 second search on Google, "Who's better, Ovechkin or Crosby" and I got plenty of ammo to rebuff you. Just not that interested in wasting my time arguing with you. You can take that as a 'win' if it gets you through your day. You like who you like, he's on your team. I'd think you were a tool for not arguing for your guy. Just face facts, plenty of folks disagree with you.As an aside, my team isn't going anywhere this year. Hopefully, CF can pull some deals out of his a** and get some more dead weight off this team.
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So wait, you can do a search and get some answers from Yahoo! Answers and some idiot bloggers to rebuke me, but 28 GENERAL MANAGERS of the NHL would rather have Crosby and you think your results hold equal weight?
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