Performance vs the GS2

[humanputting]

You are way off on the multi-touch, the Nexus has been documented doing 10 fingers and it probably could do more but the tester only had 10 fingers.

[video=youtube;YtNRtrq5bxo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtNRtrq5bxo[/video]

All the games you have mentioned play wonderfully on the Nexus.

[video=youtube;2YRYMh3ShzA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRYMh3ShzA&feature=related[/video]

Heavy Gunner can run on the Nexus S.

[video=youtube;hxoo2JNr5Vg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxoo2JNr5Vg[/video]

So basically your entire point is moot. The games play better, look better, and start faster on the Nexus. For gaming, a Nexus is MORE than a valid choice.

Try the demos of those games and come back to me. I've tried playing them last night and they don't like to play well and in any of those videos I don't see the guy running and aiming or moving the camera at the same time. As you can see most of the time he will run and then change the camera not at the same time. I'm just letting the op know what I have experienced.

 

[Creed]

Try the demos of those games and come back to me. I've tried playing them last night and they don't like to play well and in any of those videos I don't see the guy running and aiming or moving the camera at the same time. As you can see most of the time he will run and then change the camera not at the same time. I'm just letting the op know what I have experienced.

Some Nexi have a bug that come up when using multi touch in landscape mode but it is purely software based. On most (mine included), I have no problem with running whilst turning. Maybe you got unlucky, I would try going to the Verizon store or Best Buy to see if it is just yours or not.

 

[patmw123]

The touchscreen issues are just a software issue that will require a patch. The galaxy nexus as a device (hardware) doesnt have touchscreen issues, just the software does.

 

[humanputting]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/18/galaxy-nexus-users-reporting-touchscreen-trouble-lower-scores-i/

Thank you for pointing that out and I've gone back to shadow gun to test this theory and it indeed is correct. Which brings me to my original comment that multi touch games are an issue that you need to consider before purchasing.

 

[nleksan]

And that is why the 'super old' OMAP is the chip to beat

Also, wow, your PC is a beast.

Everything you say is so true but even if that didn't sell you:
Even with the the 10 Class SDs you are looking at another 50 or so dollars in addition to the $300 device where as with the Nexus you get 32 natively.

Creed, thank you, and yes it is a beast Lots of blood, sweat, and tears (not to mention cash) went into getting it where it is today, which is pretty wicked to say the least! 3 H2O circuits, fully independent, with 2x pumps (one primary + one inline) and 2x radiators (1x360mm double-core, 1x120mm double-core inline), and as of right now about 25 fans LOL, I have to keep all of the liquid cooling stuff in a separate case! Although a 2L refrigerated reservoir will do that...

I'm thinking about adding a 4th circuit, and take some load off of the CPU/Chipset/SDD circuit, and instead have all of the SDDs/HDDs (2xIntel 120GB SDD's RAID0, 2x OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD's RAID0, 4x WD Caviar Black 2TB 7200rpm HDD's in RAID10, and 1x OCZ Revo 2 PCIe x4 SSD (Revo gets >1100MBps Read AND Write!!!)) cooled by their own circuit as they generate much less heat.
But money is not growing on trees right now, and with the launch of the Radeon 7xxx HD series in two-four months, including a single-GPU card that allegedly will increase performance by +75-90% over both the ATI6970 and nVidia580GTX (the current leaders in single-GPU speed), I'm REALLY REALLY having a hard time making a choice... I've been seeing prices for 6970's drop, and to add a third one would be WICKED (current cards are already OC'd to nearly 1ghz clock and over a 27% increase in memory bandwidth), but I'd just as soon wait, sell one of the two cards I have, use the other for my HTPC, and throw in two of the 7970's or whatever....

Blah, anyway... Sorry, I get going "geek" and I can't stop
It is really sad for me, though, to have managed to keep an AMD Phenom II competitive with Intel's Core-i7 990x/2600k/2700k-based PC's, but now, with the SandyBridge-E CPU's (3960X, etc), I have gone from being within 2-3% points of overclocked 990x's and 2700K's to having fallen behind by, oh, 40% or more... :'( (at 5.3ghz CPU speed for all cores, memory pushed hard at 1866mhz with 8-7-7-8 timings down from 10-10-10-10, HyperTransport upped by ~33%, the aforementioned GPU/GDDR5 speeds, and using both RAID0'd SSD's via SATA6GBs and the PCIe x4 Revo2 SSD). Even utilizing my friend's dual-6990's, I can eliminate the gap between everything up to the 2700K, and surpass them as well if I push it HARD, but the new SB-E chips are JUST TOO GOOD!


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While yes, it is super-nice not having to buy a microSDHC card, it would still be nice to have the onboard 32GB with at least 1 slot for a microSD card (up to 64GB) or even 2 slots, for storing rarely-used video/pictures/apps/etc... Kind of like how I use my SSD's for my OS, Benchmarks, Games, etc; and use my RAID10 HDD's for storage of music, video, older games, etc... lol

 

[Creed]

Creed, thank you, and yes it is a beast Lots of blood, sweat, and tears (not to mention cash) went into getting it where it is today, which is pretty wicked to say the least! 3 H2O circuits, fully independent, with 2x pumps (one primary + one inline) and 2x radiators (1x360mm double-core, 1x120mm double-core inline), and as of right now about 25 fans LOL, I have to keep all of the liquid cooling stuff in a separate case! Although a 2L refrigerated reservoir will do that...

I'm thinking about adding a 4th circuit, and take some load off of the CPU/Chipset/SDD circuit, and instead have all of the SDDs/HDDs (2xIntel 120GB SDD's RAID0, 2x OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD's RAID0, 4x WD Caviar Black 2TB 7200rpm HDD's in RAID10, and 1x OCZ Revo 2 PCIe x4 SSD (Revo gets >1100MBps Read AND Write!!!)) cooled by their own circuit as they generate much less heat.
But money is not growing on trees right now, and with the launch of the Radeon 7xxx HD series in two-four months, including a single-GPU card that allegedly will increase performance by +75-90% over both the ATI6970 and nVidia580GTX (the current leaders in single-GPU speed), I'm REALLY REALLY having a hard time making a choice... I've been seeing prices for 6970's drop, and to add a third one would be WICKED (current cards are already OC'd to nearly 1ghz clock and over a 27% increase in memory bandwidth), but I'd just as soon wait, sell one of the two cards I have, use the other for my HTPC, and throw in two of the 7970's or whatever....

Blah, anyway... Sorry, I get going "geek" and I can't stop
It is really sad for me, though, to have managed to keep an AMD Phenom II competitive with Intel's Core-i7 990x/2600k/2700k-based PC's, but now, with the SandyBridge-E CPU's (3960X, etc), I have gone from being within 2-3% points of overclocked 990x's and 2700K's to having fallen behind by, oh, 40% or more... :'( (at 5.3ghz CPU speed for all cores, memory pushed hard at 1866mhz with 8-7-7-8 timings down from 10-10-10-10, HyperTransport upped by ~33%, the aforementioned GPU/GDDR5 speeds, and using both RAID0'd SSD's via SATA6GBs and the PCIe x4 Revo2 SSD). Even utilizing my friend's dual-6990's, I can eliminate the gap between everything up to the 2700K, and surpass them as well if I push it HARD, but the new SB-E chips are JUST TOO GOOD!

OMG, that is insane. I wish I could build something like that, a build of ICS can take upwards of 4 hours on mine haha. Probably under 30 minutes with a rig like yours! I was going to go into an intense essay on my PC but its not even close!

 

[nleksan]

OMG, that is insane. I wish I could build something like that, a build of ICS can take upwards of 4 hours on mine haha. Probably under 30 minutes with a rig like yours! I was going to go into an intense essay on my PC but its not even close!

Well bro there is nothing wrong with that... No matter how nice of a computer you build, it is "old news" pretty quickly.... :/ Just the way of the industry. Still interested to hear what you've got though


BTW, I have been super-disappointed by the new AMD Bulldozer ("FX") chips, or at least their implementation... I specifically upgraded to a 990FX chipset board with AM3+ support because of Bulldozer, but it looks like I'll be waiting for their next Chip, which according to AMD will STILL USE the AM3+ socket! That's one of the biggest things I love about AMD... one socket will last multiple GENERATIONS of CPU's, while with Intel just a simple CPU upgrade (SB to SB-E) requires a whole new socket, thus a new Motherboard/chipset :/

Nevertheless, I have yet to find my CPU as a bottleneck in any use, so I see, realistically, another 12-16mo out of it before it does become the bottleneck... The RAM I have is surprisingly willing to overclock, and the GPU's will be swapped for the 7970's (likely, as I hear the new Die's are VERY overclock-friendly...), and my MoBo encourages ALL of this
I CANNOT BELIEVE that I ever went with anything other than water cooling... It makes a $200 CPU perform like a $900 CPU... Not to mention there is no way I could get those RAM timings and HT-Link overclocks with just a bunch of fans...