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Task Killers... The Answer from Google & Developers.
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RyanRacer48
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I learned from my original moto droid those task killers are bad news. I had crazy issues before removing. I had ATK.
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fishstick600
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Its like the widmer case. . It will never end lol
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Not meant to be a discussion??
Okay, this might get me kicked off here, but I have to ask. "The design of Android is not meant to be a discussion." Really? I thought this was a forum where discussions were to take place.
The people who designed the Android OS are human, and as Bill Gates proved time and time again. No matter how smart someone is, there is no one who knows all. I believe they have come up with a good OS, but I also think there is room for improvement. The task killers that are being talked about here do have their place. Although, for most apps the task killer is not needed. There are ones out there that have not been properly developed, and they do use CPU/Memory cycles when not being used. I have yet to see where they post this information with the application, and therefore once the end user has that application installed. The only way to shut the program down would be with a task killer. Even with the original applications that come with the OS I have seen problems with them running in the background, even though I have never used them. As, far as the OS preloading programs into memory because it thinks I may use them. That will slow down the time it takes to open a program that I want to use. Now, before you yell. Think about the logic behind this thought. The program I want to use has to wait for the memory to be freed up before it can be loaded into the memory for me to use. Granted this does not take a long time, but we are getting were we want things to happen right away on our devices, and those couple of seconds or longer in some cases. Are what people are complaining about.
Final thoughts. No, when things are running perfect you do not need a task killer, but really, when have you ever seen a OS run perfect? There are bugs in the system, and that is true with any OS. Straight out of the box it maybe close to perfect, but where the bugs come into play is with the added apps that people install. There is no way for the developer of the OS to have any control over what the developers of the added apps do. Well, there is, but no one would like it at all. They could remove the option to install third party apps, and then only release apps that have been thoroughly tested by the developers of the OS. Well, as I am sure you would agree that would delay the time it takes to release an application, and would cost more money to develop. So, for the time being, there is only one option that I see, and that is for the end user to find the best way they can to ensure that their Android will work properly for them.
Sorry about all that explanation. I forgot this isn't a discussion.
The design of Android is not meant to be a discussion.
It's been explained.
If you want to hold onto backwards thinking, go ahead.
Android opens apps because that's how it's supposed to run. It will reclaim memory when it needs it.
Open Google, do some searching, the proof will STARE YOU IN THE FACES
Okay, this might get me kicked off here, but I have to ask. "The design of Android is not meant to be a discussion." Really? I thought this was a forum where discussions were to take place.
The people who designed the Android OS are human, and as Bill Gates proved time and time again. No matter how smart someone is, there is no one who knows all. I believe they have come up with a good OS, but I also think there is room for improvement. The task killers that are being talked about here do have their place. Although, for most apps the task killer is not needed. There are ones out there that have not been properly developed, and they do use CPU/Memory cycles when not being used. I have yet to see where they post this information with the application, and therefore once the end user has that application installed. The only way to shut the program down would be with a task killer. Even with the original applications that come with the OS I have seen problems with them running in the background, even though I have never used them. As, far as the OS preloading programs into memory because it thinks I may use them. That will slow down the time it takes to open a program that I want to use. Now, before you yell. Think about the logic behind this thought. The program I want to use has to wait for the memory to be freed up before it can be loaded into the memory for me to use. Granted this does not take a long time, but we are getting were we want things to happen right away on our devices, and those couple of seconds or longer in some cases. Are what people are complaining about.
Final thoughts. No, when things are running perfect you do not need a task killer, but really, when have you ever seen a OS run perfect? There are bugs in the system, and that is true with any OS. Straight out of the box it maybe close to perfect, but where the bugs come into play is with the added apps that people install. There is no way for the developer of the OS to have any control over what the developers of the added apps do. Well, there is, but no one would like it at all. They could remove the option to install third party apps, and then only release apps that have been thoroughly tested by the developers of the OS. Well, as I am sure you would agree that would delay the time it takes to release an application, and would cost more money to develop. So, for the time being, there is only one option that I see, and that is for the end user to find the best way they can to ensure that their Android will work properly for them.
Sorry about all that explanation. I forgot this isn't a discussion.
Nope. You want to know why? Before we opened this thread we had task killer threads popping up all over the place. It's never going to go away, so rather have them in every forum we have on centralized thread for them. That's why it's going to stay open, but if it bothers you then don't click on it.
The design of Android is not meant to be a discussion.
It's been explained.
If you want to hold onto backwards thinking, go ahead.
Android opens apps because that's how it's supposed to run. It will reclaim memory when it needs it.
Open Google, do some searching, the proof will STARE YOU IN THE FACES
Okay, this might get me kicked off here, but I have to ask. "The design of Android is not meant to be a discussion." Really? I thought this was a forum where discussions were to take place.
The people who designed the Android OS are human, and as Bill Gates proved time and time again. No matter how smart someone is, there is no one who knows all. I believe they have come up with a good OS, but I also think there is room for improvement. The task killers that are being talked about here do have their place. Although, for most apps the task killer is not needed. There are ones out there that have not been properly developed, and they do use CPU/Memory cycles when not being used. I have yet to see where they post this information with the application, and therefore once the end user has that application installed. The only way to shut the program down would be with a task killer. Even with the original applications that come with the OS I have seen problems with them running in the background, even though I have never used them. As, far as the OS preloading programs into memory because it thinks I may use them. That will slow down the time it takes to open a program that I want to use. Now, before you yell. Think about the logic behind this thought. The program I want to use has to wait for the memory to be freed up before it can be loaded into the memory for me to use. Granted this does not take a long time, but we are getting were we want things to happen right away on our devices, and those couple of seconds or longer in some cases. Are what people are complaining about.
Final thoughts. No, when things are running perfect you do not need a task killer, but really, when have you ever seen a OS run perfect? There are bugs in the system, and that is true with any OS. Straight out of the box it maybe close to perfect, but where the bugs come into play is with the added apps that people install. There is no way for the developer of the OS to have any control over what the developers of the added apps do. Well, there is, but no one would like it at all. They could remove the option to install third party apps, and then only release apps that have been thoroughly tested by the developers of the OS. Well, as I am sure you would agree that would delay the time it takes to release an application, and would cost more money to develop. So, for the time being, there is only one option that I see, and that is for the end user to find the best way they can to ensure that their Android will work properly for them.
Sorry about all that explanation. I forgot this isn't a discussion.
Yes you are now kicked out!
Martin030908
Super Moderator
justifying task killers for poorly written or unresponsive apps is ignoring the real issue. the app itself.
task killers are bad, I don't do task killers mmmkay.
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task killers are bad, I don't do task killers mmmkay.
*DroidForums app DOES*
Martin030908
Super Moderator
... and the Android OS has a native task killer, you don't need a 3rd party app to shut down another app.
"let's use more resources to reclaim resources!" = makes no sense at all.
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"let's use more resources to reclaim resources!" = makes no sense at all.
*DroidForums app DOES*
The most excellent mod response ever.
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robbyp30
Guest
Pardon me for not reading all 44 pages, but if Task Killers of some sort aren't neccesary then why are some apps that utterly impossible to close.
After reading the main topic I might not use ATK again but I'll be looking for one that lets me shut down certain apps one at a time.
After reading the main topic I might not use ATK again but I'll be looking for one that lets me shut down certain apps one at a time.
It has been my experience that any app that absolutely needs to be "closed" will have an "exit" button. All others can be left alone. If android needs additional ram, it will close any of the hibernating apps it needs to in order to free up the space for it's requested task.