And someone asked about the ToS from Verizon:
Customer Agreement
And further down under 'Waivers and Limitations of Liability' is where it talks about small claims courts and stuff. I think tethering can be found out if they want to.What Are Verizon Wireless' Rights to Limit or End Service or End this Agreement?
We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause, including, but not limited to: (i) if you: (a) breach this agreement; (b) pay late more than once in any 12 months; (c) incur charges larger than a required deposit or billing limit, or materially in excess of your monthly access charges (even if we haven't yet billed the charges); (d) provide credit information we can't verify; (e) are unable to pay us or go bankrupt; (f) resell your Service; (g) use your Service for any illegal purpose, including use that violates trade and economic sanctions and prohibitions promulgated by any U.S. governmental agency; (h) install, deploy or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate an RF signal without our permission;(i) steal from or lie to us; or (ii) if you, any user of your device or any account manager on your account: (a) threaten, harass, or use vulgar and/or inappropriate language toward our representatives; (b) interfere with our operations; (c) "spam," or engage in other abusive messaging or calling; (d) modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications; or (e) use your Service in a way that negatively affects our network or other customers. We can also temporarily limit your Service for any operational or governmental reason.
post up a cancelled contract, huge bill, from anyone on the inet to prove this, or don't..... until you do, you are just fear mongering.....
can they, yes
have they? that's the million dollar question that noone that is fearmongering can seem to provide proof to. yet they keep spouting off.
so, until then.....
iTeather
I stream movies
I watch HULU
I cancelled my home inet and tether exclusively
I am tethered right now
I even stream pron
and as soon as I find out how, I will hook up my video game units to play online through tethering
I plan on ruining it for everyone
I bought a droid to consolidate EVERYTHING into one unit, including internet. If it had a cable tv app, I'd have my TV hooked up to it right now instead of paying for knology cable.
Still no mythological bills. I'm beginning to think huge bills and cancelled contracts are like bigfoot sitings... on people who claim they have seen them are drunks and whackjobs, but they will try to make u feel like you are the crazy one. :tinfoilhat:
OK I called a third time, this time armed with the website address and exact information.
This is what I got from the Verizon Wireless Rep. The $15 month Mobile Broadband Connect is for the Droid Incredible. The Motorola Droid does not support tethering so it cannot be added to my plan.
I asked her if I found an app on the market that allowed me to tether, it was ok to use it? And she said yes, as long as I stay under 5GB. I asked again saying, "I don't have to pay anything?" She said no, not for now.
Out of the 3 reps I talked to - this rep really seemed to know her stuff.
Still no mythological bills. I'm beginning to think huge bills and cancelled contracts are like bigfoot sitings... on people who claim they have seen them are drunks and whackjobs, but they will try to make u feel like you are the crazy one. :tinfoilhat:
You've proven you have a problem with responsibility. I'm beginning to think that those who claim Verizon will never do anything are like the homeless people who sit outside the White House and protest the Vietnam War...
It clearly states that you're breaking the rules, and you CAN be punished, and quite frankly, if Verizon thinks people are abusing their networks, they WILL go after you. This is why they charge $30 extra a month to tether 5gb, to keep people from abusing their network. That $30/month isnt pure profit, it goes towards maintaining the hardware you're abusing.
Have fun tethering, keep it up, just dont expect any sympathy here when Verizon does decide they've had enough.
Still no mythological bills. I'm beginning to think huge bills and cancelled contracts are like bigfoot sitings... on people who claim they have seen them are drunks and whackjobs, but they will try to make u feel like you are the crazy one. :tinfoilhat:
You've proven you have a problem with responsibility. I'm beginning to think that those who claim Verizon will never do anything are like the homeless people who sit outside the White House and protest the Vietnam War...
It clearly states that you're breaking the rules, and you CAN be punished, and quite frankly, if Verizon thinks people are abusing their networks, they WILL go after you. This is why they charge $30 extra a month to tether 5gb, to keep people from abusing their network. That $30/month isnt pure profit, it goes towards maintaining the hardware you're abusing.
Have fun tethering, keep it up, just dont expect any sympathy here when Verizon does decide they've had enough.
is using facebook chat instead of SMS, and therefore trimming your plan's minutes to have a cheaper monthly bill, abusing the system? It's circumventing and VZW can't charge you for it. What's the difference?
is rearranging your calling circle of 10 non-verizon phones to include the one hour conference call you have tomorrow abusing the system
so why is using the inet and cancelling home inet abusing the system.
It's been clearly stated that even if I tried, VZW is not even set up to take my money..... too bad so sad. I'm sure they'll figure it out how to charge.
so feel guilty all you want.... doesn't mean I'm going to stop. There are still plenty of bigger fish than me out there if they start going after people for this. Meanwhile, you go ahead and pay for the same thing twice....
I'm single, live alone, and only need inet on one machine at any one time. Only one computer at the house, and I'm on the road a lot during certain times of the year.... why shouldn't my inet follow me around like my main phone number follow me around on my cell.
This isn't a "abusing the system" issue here.... Keeping my inet with me instead of tieing it down to my house is done for the same reason I cut my home phone and use my cell phone exclusively... why pay for home phone AND cell phone when cell phone can do it all. Why pay for home inet AND cell inet when the cell phone can do it all. I didn't buy a droid to only take advantage of 50% of what it can do....
You've proven you have a problem with responsibility. I'm beginning to think that those who claim Verizon will never do anything are like the homeless people who sit outside the White House and protest the Vietnam War...
It clearly states that you're breaking the rules, and you CAN be punished, and quite frankly, if Verizon thinks people are abusing their networks, they WILL go after you. This is why they charge $30 extra a month to tether 5gb, to keep people from abusing their network. That $30/month isnt pure profit, it goes towards maintaining the hardware you're abusing.
Have fun tethering, keep it up, just dont expect any sympathy here when Verizon does decide they've had enough.
is using facebook chat instead of SMS, and therefore trimming your plan's minutes to have a cheaper monthly bill, abusing the system? It's circumventing and VZW can't charge you for it. What's the difference?
is rearranging your calling circle of 10 non-verizon phones to include the one hour conference call you have tomorrow abusing the system
so why is using the inet and cancelling home inet abusing the system.
It's been clearly stated that even if I tried, VZW is not even set up to take my money..... too bad so sad. I'm sure they'll figure it out how to charge.
so feel guilty all you want.... doesn't mean I'm going to stop. There are still plenty of bigger fish than me out there if they start going after people for this. Meanwhile, you go ahead and pay for the same thing twice....
I'm single, live alone, and only need inet on one machine at any one time. Only one computer at the house, and I'm on the road a lot during certain times of the year.... why shouldn't my inet follow me around like my main phone number follow me around on my cell.
This isn't a "abusing the system" issue here.... Keeping my inet with me instead of tieing it down to my house is done for the same reason I cut my home phone and use my cell phone exclusively... why pay for home phone AND cell phone when cell phone can do it all. Why pay for home inet AND cell inet when the cell phone can do it all. I didn't buy a droid to only take advantage of 50% of what it can do....
Lol, I bet you're the type of guy that takes a date to an all-you-can-eat buffet, and pays for one meal...LOL
This isn't a "abusing the system" issue here.... Keeping my inet with me instead of tieing it down to my house is done for the same reason I cut my home phone and use my cell phone exclusively... why pay for home phone AND cell phone when cell phone can do it all. Why pay for home inet AND cell inet when the cell phone can do it all. I didn't buy a droid to only take advantage of 50% of what it can do....
In BR's ToS they state specifically they can not monitor what you are using the connection for, only the fact that you ARE using the connection. And you'll probably get a different connect ID (IP) when utilizing VZAccess. My assumption is that you go directly through the phones connection if using a third party connection (Barnacle, etc)
Can anyone explain how your phone connects to the networks data/internet? How does it connect when using my android browser? When I use the old method of setting up my device as a modem where it dials into #777 verses using a program like PDAnet to tether, do they "connect" in a different way? What are these differences? How is this connection seen on the "network"?
