ThunderBolt Gets Overclocked to 'Lightning Speed' 1.8GHz... Quadrant Score of 2750!

[smokiedabong]

I overcloked mine to 1.7 GHz , but I can't post any results because the battery dies before Quadrant can finish .

 

[52brandon]

I overcloked mine to 1.7 GHz , but I can't post any results because the battery dies before Quadrant can finish .

lmao 10characters

 

[jaycemiskel]

I overcloked mine to 1.7 GHz , but I can't post any results because the battery dies before Quadrant can finish .

Try with the extended battery and let us know lol.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I overcloked mine to 1.7 GHz , but I can't post any results because the battery dies before Quadrant can finish .

Leave it plugged into the wall obviously, unless you're worried about tripping the breakers for the outlet, lmao.

 

[jroc]

Yall killing me with the battery jokes...

 

[Its TwiX]

Pretty pointless to overclock that high. Unless you're camping. (Marshmallows anyone?) I'm running the brand new version of BAMF at 1.2 ghz and getting 2.4k... the difference in score compared to risk in going that high isn't worth it to me lol

 

[MoeDaddy]

What risk? At most the phone will not function correctly and/or reboot, who has ever posted that they burned up a phones CPU? I haven't seen one yet so again what risk? There are so many that talk like overclocking is like playing russian roulette when the facts don't show this.

Anyway glad to see they are getting everything they can out of the TB...

 

[SSHGuru]

I'm running at 1.2 on the Original Droid and when using the Navigation function I can go from 100% to 0 in about 10 minutes.

I also overheat when I talk more than 15 minutes.

But as has been said before - when I'm not using it the battery lasts a long time.

I'll upgrade to the Bionic and just run it as is... should be fast enough out of the box.

 

[givmedew]

Yea all of you always have things to say about processor heat without knowing the difference between PC processors and the ones found in our phones. It's simply not the same and doesn't translate, massive reductions in Active Voltage, Thicker gate dielectric (see "MOSFET" and differences between Low Power Processes and High Performance Processes, and also see "Doping".) , Micro Architecture, Power Gating, Dynamic Scaling, on and on...the same rules simply don't apply.

Combine many or all of these differences and it shows that heat sinking and fans are not necessary due to the extremely efficient design used on these SoC's, even at high overclocking.

The above explains a lot of the differences as to why phone CPUs don't need heatsinks but it DOES NOT answer the question as to why they are overclockable. If all the Droid 1 CPUs could have handled 1.2ghz then they would have been sold as a 800mhz-1ghz cpu but that wasn't the case some could handle 1.2ghz some couldn't go above 600 without problems. Why is loosely explained below.

The reason why you can overclock a cellphone cpu easier than a pc.

Cell phone CPUs are designed to have as many usable CPUs per wafer as possible and for the most part they are all going to be used for the same thing. So if you need a 1ghz cpu that doesnt fail then make sure on that wafer 90%+ of those CPUs can handle 1.1ghz.

Now in order for you to do that it means that your going to end up with some ones that can handle as much as 2ghz

Now with PC CPUs what they do is this they make a bunch of CPUs on a wafer then test them and sell them as what they are capable of.

Sometimes they go even one step further. Back in the day it was well known that some quad core cpus where being sold as dualcore because 1 or 2 of the cores where not perfect. This allowed buyers to unlock and get a tri core or maybe a functional quad core.

The bottom line is with a PC if the CPU can handle 3ghz they sell it as a 2.8 not a 1.2ghz and if the same exact processor sitting one chip over for some reason only handles 2.8ghz then they will sell it as a 2.6ghz

 

[JohnnytheK]

Yea all of you always have things to say about processor heat without knowing the difference between PC processors and the ones found in our phones. It's simply not the same and doesn't translate, massive reductions in Active Voltage, Thicker gate dielectric (see "MOSFET" and differences between Low Power Processes and High Performance Processes, and also see "Doping".) , Micro Architecture, Power Gating, Dynamic Scaling, on and on...the same rules simply don't apply.

Combine many or all of these differences and it shows that heat sinking and fans are not necessary due to the extremely efficient design used on these SoC's, even at high overclocking.

Uh, Dude we know the difference, I think he was going for the joke.
Lighten up Francis.

I was just preventing confusion over a misleading comment, so you lighten up, Francine. Many don't know the difference, and when they read things like this (jokes or not), they assume the same things as the second commenter in this thread state (and who I was actually responding to since you seem confused... or you didn't read, either one) hold true. Even getting people to relax about rooting the D1 was an uphill battle, everyone was saying that the processor wouldn't last being overclocked, when to date I don't know of anyone saying they've failed a single processor yet in all this time...yet I still see people scared to overclock their device because they read stuff like this and assume failure is imminent or that it's going to melt their nightstand.

No not confused, just seems like you're a bit serious. Sorry Spock carry on!

 

[Its TwiX]

The creator of the kernel even said don't run this for long periods of time lol...

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[Hugh Jass]

Yea all of you always have things to say about processor heat without knowing the difference between PC processors and the ones found in our phones. It's simply not the same and doesn't translate, massive reductions in Active Voltage, Thicker gate dielectric (see "MOSFET" and differences between Low Power Processes and High Performance Processes, and also see "Doping".) , Micro Architecture, Power Gating, Dynamic Scaling, on and on...the same rules simply don't apply.

Combine many or all of these differences and it shows that heat sinking and fans are not necessary due to the extremely efficient design used on these SoC's, even at high overclocking.

The above explains a lot of the differences as to why phone CPUs don't need heatsinks but it DOES NOT answer the question as to why they are overclockable. If all the Droid 1 CPUs could have handled 1.2ghz then they would have been sold as a 800mhz-1ghz cpu but that wasn't the case some could handle 1.2ghz some couldn't go above 600 without problems. Why is loosely explained below.

The reason why you can overclock a cellphone cpu easier than a pc.

Cell phone CPUs are designed to have as many usable CPUs per wafer as possible and for the most part they are all going to be used for the same thing. So if you need a 1ghz cpu that doesnt fail then make sure on that wafer 90%+ of those CPUs can handle 1.1ghz.

Now in order for you to do that it means that your going to end up with some ones that can handle as much as 2ghz

Now with PC CPUs what they do is this they make a bunch of CPUs on a wafer then test them and sell them as what they are capable of.

Sometimes they go even one step further. Back in the day it was well known that some quad core cpus where being sold as dualcore because 1 or 2 of the cores where not perfect. This allowed buyers to unlock and get a tri core or maybe a functional quad core.

The bottom line is with a PC if the CPU can handle 3ghz they sell it as a 2.8 not a 1.2ghz and if the same exact processor sitting one chip over for some reason only handles 2.8ghz then they will sell it as a 2.6ghz

Very true, good point.

 

[patfactorx]

data and display kills battery not the processor speed

 

[JohnnytheK]

OK, I'll buy that for a dollar. You guys obviously know more about this than I.

Still physics still applies, the more duty cycles the more more power draw and more heat.
Sure phones use low power designs, but there's no free lunch.

Why else does the "The creator of the kernel even said don't run this for long periods of time lol..." TiwX recomend you don't run the TB that fast for long periods?

Is it just more buggy? Or failure due to heat and power drain?

 

[Its TwiX]

Heat and battery drain. Anyone who says processor speed has nothing to do with battery drain is wrong. Run a tb at 245 mhz and another at 1.99 ghz. Let's see which dies first. If the processor speed has nothing to do with it then they would both die at relatively the same time. I highly doubt that would happen.

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