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Verizon's 'Certified Like New Program' Warranty Exchange Gets New Stricter Policies

You also had a little more background awareness of the refurb process and the break in communication between VZW and the 3rd party warehouses. I did not fully understand it, only what you told me about them being denied a walk through.

Either way it was appreciated. I'm not above anyone else, I can get confused.

I used to be a tech manager up until a few months ago .. but yeah without the inside knowledge it just sounds like Verizon is looking to screw customers when in reality its the refurbisher

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... and basically the refurbisher has been screwing VZW for a while now... VZW is finally passing it onto us :) lol
No, you're still not getting it. The phones have been returned by customers whose phone didn't qualify for a CLNR - cracked screens, water or moisture damage, etc. were never covered under CLNR. Until now VZW would swallow the charge by the warehouse refurbishing them, but now VZW is going to enforce the return policy. The refurbisher was promised phones that can be certified as CLNR by VZW, the phones were returned and VZW was absorbing the cost, now the consumer who didn't disclose those facts and return the phone will be rightfully charged for the device they returned. Asurion insurance is for those devices with the water damage and cracked screens.
 
lol, tech drama is contagious.

However, if I send back a phone in the future and I get a $300 surcharge on my bill because of discrepancy between a warehouse and a supplier, I'm going hunting and it ain't for deer. :popcorn:

Lol in theory you'll get either a letter or email from the warehouse with pictures of why they are charging you .. but that still won't make it any better lol

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I used to be a tech manager up until a few months ago .. but yeah without the inside knowledge it just sounds like Verizon is looking to screw customers when in reality its the refurbisher

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... and basically the refurbisher has been screwing VZW for a while now... VZW is finally passing it onto us :) lol
No, you're still not getting it. The phones have been returned by customers whose phone didn't qualify for a CLNR - cracked screens, water or moisture damage, etc. were never covered under CLNR. Until now VZW would swallow the charge by the warehouse refurbishing them, but now VZW is going to enforce the return policy. The refurbisher was promised phones that can be certified as CLNR by VZW, the phones were returned and VZW was absorbing the cost, now the consumer who didn't disclose those facts and return the phone will be rightfully charged for the device they returned. Asurion insurance is for those devices with the water damage and cracked screens.

Yeah that's exactly what we were saying ..

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all i know is all four of my "certified" waranty replacemnt DX have had issues right out of the box.

From a total lack of widgets and icons on the home screen, to non working hard buttons, to misaligned case bezels, to pressure spots on the screen from the previous "customer's" overzealous gaming usage.

im having the store open each warranty box i get and activate the phone for me from now on.
 
all i know is all four of my "certified" waranty replacemnt DX have had issues right out of the box.

From a total lack of widgets and icons on the home screen, to non working hard buttons, to misaligned case bezels, to pressure spots on the screen from the previous "customer's" overzealous gaming usage.

im having the store open each warranty box i get and activate the phone for me from now on.

Yeah well that's the warehouse rushing repairs to meet demand ..

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I used to be a tech manager up until a few months ago .. but yeah without the inside knowledge it just sounds like Verizon is looking to screw customers when in reality its the refurbisher

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... and basically the refurbisher has been screwing VZW for a while now... VZW is finally passing it onto us :) lol
No, you're still not getting it. The phones have been returned by customers whose phone didn't qualify for a CLNR - cracked screens, water or moisture damage, etc. were never covered under CLNR. Until now VZW would swallow the charge by the warehouse refurbishing them, but now VZW is going to enforce the return policy. The refurbisher was promised phones that can be certified as CLNR by VZW, the phones were returned and VZW was absorbing the cost, now the consumer who didn't disclose those facts and return the phone will be rightfully charged for the device they returned. Asurion insurance is for those devices with the water damage and cracked screens.
Well where have you been this whole discussion? :icon_eek:

Obviously I wasn't getting it hence the long drawn out request for explanation from me to those who knew what was going on.

... the situation makes sense... but I still don't see how VZW can allow a customer to get charged because of scratches of a predetermined length constituting abuse. But I'm over the whole discussion at this point.
 
... and basically the refurbisher has been screwing VZW for a while now... VZW is finally passing it onto us :) lol
No, you're still not getting it. The phones have been returned by customers whose phone didn't qualify for a CLNR - cracked screens, water or moisture damage, etc. were never covered under CLNR. Until now VZW would swallow the charge by the warehouse refurbishing them, but now VZW is going to enforce the return policy. The refurbisher was promised phones that can be certified as CLNR by VZW, the phones were returned and VZW was absorbing the cost, now the consumer who didn't disclose those facts and return the phone will be rightfully charged for the device they returned. Asurion insurance is for those devices with the water damage and cracked screens.
Well where have you been this whole discussion? :icon_eek:

Obviously I wasn't getting it hence the long drawn out request for explanation from me to those who knew what was going on.

... the situation makes sense... but I still don't see how VZW can allow a customer to get charged because of scratches of a predetermined length constituting abuse. But I'm over the whole discussion at this point.
Ummm, I was at work all day? No internet usage except for the sites we can use, and no cell phones. That means I'm not able to get on during the day. Maybe you can call my employer to change the rule? I'm let into the discussion but I can also tell you that VAtothe0 does know what he's talking about and did try to explain it and has been a personal friend of mine for many years.

Moldavo - I didn't see your thread, but I would like to nominate you for the News Team.
 
... and basically the refurbisher has been screwing VZW for a while now... VZW is finally passing it onto us :) lol
No, you're still not getting it. The phones have been returned by customers whose phone didn't qualify for a CLNR - cracked screens, water or moisture damage, etc. were never covered under CLNR. Until now VZW would swallow the charge by the warehouse refurbishing them, but now VZW is going to enforce the return policy. The refurbisher was promised phones that can be certified as CLNR by VZW, the phones were returned and VZW was absorbing the cost, now the consumer who didn't disclose those facts and return the phone will be rightfully charged for the device they returned. Asurion insurance is for those devices with the water damage and cracked screens.
Well where have you been this whole discussion? :icon_eek:

Obviously I wasn't getting it hence the long drawn out request for explanation from me to those who knew what was going on.

... the situation makes sense... but I still don't see how VZW can allow a customer to get charged because of scratches of a predetermined length constituting abuse. But I'm over the whole discussion at this point.

I think at this point VZW has to cater to the demand of the refurbishing warehouse or they'll have a supply disruption cuz of switching refurbishers

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No, you're still not getting it. The phones have been returned by customers whose phone didn't qualify for a CLNR - cracked screens, water or moisture damage, etc. were never covered under CLNR. Until now VZW would swallow the charge by the warehouse refurbishing them, but now VZW is going to enforce the return policy. The refurbisher was promised phones that can be certified as CLNR by VZW, the phones were returned and VZW was absorbing the cost, now the consumer who didn't disclose those facts and return the phone will be rightfully charged for the device they returned. Asurion insurance is for those devices with the water damage and cracked screens.
Well where have you been this whole discussion? :icon_eek:

Obviously I wasn't getting it hence the long drawn out request for explanation from me to those who knew what was going on.

... the situation makes sense... but I still don't see how VZW can allow a customer to get charged because of scratches of a predetermined length constituting abuse. But I'm over the whole discussion at this point.
Ummm, I was at work all day? No internet usage except for the sites we can use, and no cell phones. That means I'm not able to get on during the day. Maybe you can call my employer to change the rule? I'm let into the discussion but I can also tell you that VAtothe0 does know what he's talking about and did try to explain it and has been a personal friend of mine for many years.

Moldavo - I didn't see your thread, but I would like to nominate you for the News Team.

Well your friend got in a huff over nothing. I clearly didn't understand and asked for clarification. onsht1kll was able to, you were able to, why couldn't he? Never said he didn't know, just asked for clarification on certain points, which I highlighted. I understood it was standards for VZW shipping out... but I wanted to know why it was being passed onto the customer if it was a standard VZW was held to. Only you and onsht1kll gave me that answer.
 
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all i know is all four of my "certified" waranty replacemnt DX have had issues right out of the box.

From a total lack of widgets and icons on the home screen, to non working hard buttons, to misaligned case bezels, to pressure spots on the screen from the previous "customer's" overzealous gaming usage.

im having the store open each warranty box i get and activate the phone for me from now on.

Problems are still at hand. I don't have time to be getting broken and used phones every couple months. Verizon and/or Motorola owe me money.
 
I used to be a tech manager up until a few months ago .. but yeah without the inside knowledge it just sounds like Verizon is looking to screw customers when in reality its the refurbisher

Sent from my Thunderbolt using DroidForums app

... and basically the refurbisher has been screwing VZW for a while now... VZW is finally passing it onto us :) lol
No, you're still not getting it. The phones have been returned by customers whose phone didn't qualify for a CLNR - cracked screens, water or moisture damage, etc. were never covered under CLNR. Until now VZW would swallow the charge by the warehouse refurbishing them, but now VZW is going to enforce the return policy. The refurbisher was promised phones that can be certified as CLNR by VZW, the phones were returned and VZW was absorbing the cost, now the consumer who didn't disclose those facts and return the phone will be rightfully charged for the device they returned. Asurion insurance is for those devices with the water damage and cracked screens.

This makes sense. Not sure why it wasn't explained like this sooner lol.

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so the phone basically has to have nothing wrong with it in order to be returned.

i've never scratched anything on my phone, never dropped it, never dropped it in water, or been rough with it at all. but sooner or later something goes on it. the power button stops working, the headphone jack or the usb port starts getting loose... now i have to start paying 300$ to get another POS replacement that's eventually going to break anyway?
 
I believe they should give you the option like other companies do for other products, we can take it back but if it's deemed not our fault, you have the option of just having them ship their device back to you instead of eating a $300 bill. My boots were like this, if the craftsmanship was the reason for the failure they replaced free of charge, if not, I got my boots back in the mail with the option to repurchase, end story.

Their should always be an option.
 
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