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You Will Be Forced Off Unlimited If You Try To Buy A Phone Full Price At A Corporate Verizon Store

How is it one option fits all? They have all sorts of tiers and price points...

The only reason to have Unlimited today, is if you are tethering and using massive amounts of data on other devices... How much data can you really use on your phone?
Same words and scenario back when the topic was texts. Remember the news stories about kids using thousands per week? Replace 1 word texts times 10k per month with YouTube hq or apps from your home tv provider that let you watch live tv on your phone.

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Five pages into this and we have one possible answer. :D back to the original question. Has anyone, any member of this forum, bought a new phone from Verizon and paid full price, or bought a phone somewhere on-line and activated it on your existing number? If so, did that purchase / activation change your existing plan in any way?
I've bought my maxx, a turbo, a note 4 edge..all at full retail..I said..put this device on this number and leave EVERYTHING alone..that was 4 months ago with the note edge..on my unlimited work number
 
I don't have UD, but used to. When I first signed up for it, I bought a Backberry and was told that as long as I didn't change my plan (and I was told that I can upgrade in 2 years which did not constitute a plan change) that I would not lose my UD.
3 years later, I upgraded to a RazrMaxx, and kept my UDP, even after the UDP's were discontinued. Later, they (vzw) found or created the loophole that allowed them to wiggle out of the agreement, and called upgrading to a new subsidized phone "changing the plan" and I lost it when upgrading again. I use less than 1 Gb per month so I don't really care.
If "no one is entitled to have anyone provide them with anything", then are you saying that under my current (month to month, no contract) plan which I pay $80 for 10Gb of data, I am not entitled to use the data even if they stop offering this plan? I don't think so, and neither should the OP, who was told he could keep the plan that he pays for every month (it's not givin to him) until he changed his plan.
In context, the word entitled when used as a verb means
"give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something."
I signed up for an $80/10Gb plan, have an agreement, and I am entitled to use and keep my 10Gb plan for S80 until I change it, even after they stop offering that plan.
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In reality, there is no agreement when your contract ran out all those years ago.

What some 21 year old kid told you, based on his limited understanding of the business, coupled with his inability to see the future, is not really an "agreement"...

I have an agreement with Netflix, SiriusXM, etc... Doesn't mean that when my contract runs out, that they cannot raise the price or change the terms.
 
I average 15gb a month NO TETHERING, this is from playing games, listening to music and watching youtube. If sprint and T-Mobile can offer unlimited data so can VZW, period, Big red just wants to profit, plain an simple... as others have stated 4G is far more efficient than 3G and to think their network can't handle the "strain" is absolute garbage.

so no, the only reason is NOT to simply tether, not everyone uses their phone in the same way. maybe if verizon offered the free music streaming option that T-Mobile offers or did something where only half the data of video streaming affected you then more people would upgrade.

honestly they shove all these music streaming video watching data hogging apps down our throats then ask us to pay an arm an a leg in data to use them and slap the hell out of us if we go over our "alloted" data. Sounds like a racket to me.

So don't offer unlimited for 30 offer it for 90 or 100 for unlimited data on a family plan.... this would not hurt them at all, in fact it might cause people {me) to upgrade.... as it is if they pull my UD from me I'm jumping ship, and I've been with verizon myself since 05 my mother had been with them since they were airtouch back in the 1990's.

I rarely tether, I also rarely have wifi near me... no need to tether, my phone is my computer I can quite literally do everything but my label design on my phone.... no reason to tether unless my wifi goes out. I pay 34.99 a month for comcast, and when the plan price increases I call comcast, ask for a discount and get one.... same with dish network.

As others have stated it's all about the almighty dollar and how much they can pull (read gouge) their customers an still retain a profitable business model. clearly their doing something right, or perhaps it's the fact that plain Joe Nobody is a sheep and the general population doesn't understand what's truly going on an just takes what these companies do at face value because that's the way we've been trained for the past 50 years. or perhaps I'm just jaded and completely off topic.

Some of the smaller carriers still offer Unlimited data, because they have to. They don't have the network coverage or quality that VZW does, so in order to give themselves some sort of competititve advantage, they offer the one thing that VZW and ATT don't, Unlimited data... If they didn't have to do that to entice people over to their lesser quality networks, they wouldn't. believe me.

With VZW LTE, it rivals what many people in the country can get on their home ISP. I live up near the lake, and the only option here is U-Verse, which I pay good money for their top data plan which is 45mbit, which it almost never sees because the TV is running over that, so if I am recording 3 or 4 HD shows or movies, my internet sucks. But I get full LTE signal here, so it would be awesome to just run my stuff off that and not have an $80 internet bill.

And a lot of people with UDP plans are doing just that, and soaking up stupid amounts of data...

I don't stream all day... I load stuff onto the phone, hundreds of hours of music, etc... There is wifi almost everywhere you go these days... I understand that some people do stream all day... But how many do it, BECAUSE they are on UDP? I mean, you drive a certain amount each year because you have to get places... but if you got unlimited gas for free, I am betting that the average person would drive a lot more, "just because its there"... And after a few years, that "I deserve that because I have had it" mindset kicks in, where they think that they actually need that much gas now, which in most cases is not accurate...

It's like the SD slot "issue"... How many people really need 175 apps and 11 weeks worth of music and the entire series of LOST in HD on their phone? But to hear people whining about new phones not coming with sd slots, you would think that the world was ending... When in reality, most of the crap on their phone is there because "they had the space", not because there was any real need. If phones had never come with SD slots, they wouldn't even think twice about it.

People hate feeling like something is being taken away from them, even if they don't really have a need for it anyway...
 
Probably because my point was over your head. That's the only way you could come to that conclusion, but nice try.
No it was not over my head, someone here is envious of the people who still have unlimited data on the nation's largest and most reliable network.
 
No it was not over my head, someone here is envious of the people who still have unlimited data on the nation's largest and most reliable network.

I don't know who that person is. I don't care what you have. I find it comical and annoying that a bunch of you are whining about the possibility of not getting free stuff, and I simply explained why your sense of entitlement to it, is childish.

If you interpret that as me being jealous, then you proved my point for me.

Let's see how long it takes you to figure that one out. :-)
 
UD is far from free. Those that still have it have paid for it...not just the $30/month but also $500-700/phone. As with unlimited call & text plans, I can see that Verizon might possibly offer a UDP in the future. It won't cost $30 but even if it was $100, it would be worth it for many people because their lifestyle warrants that, whether it's because they stream music because they like to listen when they travel, have poor internet service, have no internet service because their employment is usually away from home, etc, etc.

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UD is far from free. Those that still have it have paid for it...not just the $30/month but also $500-700/phone. As with unlimited call & text plans, I can see that Verizon might possibly offer a UDP in the future. It won't cost $30 but even if it was $100, it would be worth it for many people because their lifestyle warrants that, whether it's because they stream music because they like to listen when they travel, have poor internet service, have no internet service because their employment is usually away from home, etc, etc.

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If they offer an Unlimited plan in the future, it will be well over $100 a month.

And in today's world, $30 is nothing. That you pay full price, doesn't mean anything.

It isn't like you paid some extra premium. You paid what the phone sells for. It's a $600 phone, so you paid it.

Average that out over 24 months and you paid $25 on top of your $30 plan.

You are still coming out way ahead financially. Verizon doesn't owe you anything, and soon the gravy train will end. I could have stayed on it indefinitely, but I have a life and so I don't use enough data to justify staying on the UDP and having to cough up $600-$700 ever year or so for a new phone... I make good money, I could do that if I wanted to, but I would rather just pay my bill each month and use that cash for something else.

I wish costs didn't go up. The same 600cc motorcycle that cost $7k a few years ago, is now $12k. It is marginally better, but unless you are Valentino Rossi and can extract that last inch of performance out of it, it isn't $5k better... but that's what they cost. I don't have the luxury of demanding that they give it to me at 2007 prices. LOL
 
In today's world $30. could matter to some. I was paying $22 or 25/mo for my plan with unlimited data.
It was reduced to $15./mo. We all know the cost of data is far less than a call. By charging an additional fee, VZW is just creating an additional cash cow. Or perhaps they can justify it as an increase due to Infrastructure costs.
 
I don't know who that person is. I don't care what you have. I find it comical and annoying that a bunch of you are whining about the possibility of not getting free stuff, and I simply explained why your sense of entitlement to it, is childish.

If you interpret that as me being jealous, then you proved my point for me.

Let's see how long it takes you to figure that one out. :)
I never cried about anything, someone here seems butthurt to me, why do you actually care so much about the people that still have UNLIMITED DATA PLANS.
 
OK guys we all have opinions. This is not about crying, whining or being "butthurt". It's about losing something you have and no one wants to lose free unlimited data when upgrading or buying a new phone.
 
OK guys we all have opinions. This is not about crying, whining or being "butthurt". It's about losing something you have and no one wants to lose free unlimited data when upgrading or buying a new phone.
No one loses their unlimited data plan when buying the phone outright, either from Verizon, best buy, craigslist "I would not, lol", eBay, swappa "my favorite".
 
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