2.1 still doesn't fix basic bugs

[BayouFlyFisher]

Grab Dialer One from the Market and use its call log. It'll display exact time/date for you.

Thanks for the heads-up. I really like this app and it's extremely level of customization!!

 

[BayouFlyFisher]

+1 on the "very minor" comment... I just can't see grumbling about one more click to see the call details... it's a touch screen... easy to get done... hardly burns any calories just moving your finger around to navigate what you need done... and keeps the call-log clean and uncluttered for those of us who don't require detailed info on every call on every screen..

1. THIS IS AN EMBARRASSING ERROR. It's easy to spot since the phone app and log are a commonly used item. Unfortunately I'm finding that this is par for the course with Android, still very much an OS that feels like patchwork

2. If you've got 30+ calls each day to look through, you must be JOKING to say that clicking through to every single call is simple. It's incredibly time consuming.

Just like the very weak 2.1 update, it seems to me that Google might want to show profits to demanding stockholders and perhaps have put the Android Development on "coast" instead of going forward to continue to make serious headway into the iPhone market share. Now's the time to put the pedal to the medal. If you can't fix obvious and simple errors like this one, I'm loathe to say that the OS on the Droid will not change much at all - if again - over the lfie of the device.

Do you want to solve the problem or just b***h? Did you check out Dialer One? I had never heard of it prior to this thread, but it lists the calls and the exact tdate and time the calls came in. Isn't that what you wanted?

 

[spillner]

+1 on the "very minor" comment... I just can't see grumbling about one more click to see the call details... it's a touch screen... easy to get done... hardly burns any calories just moving your finger around to navigate what you need done... and keeps the call-log clean and uncluttered for those of us who don't require detailed info on every call on every screen..

1. THIS IS AN EMBARRASSING ERROR. It's easy to spot since the phone app and log are a commonly used item. Unfortunately I'm finding that this is par for the course with Android, still very much an OS that feels like patchwork

2. If you've got 30+ calls each day to look through, you must be JOKING to say that clicking through to every single call is simple. It's incredibly time consuming.

Just like the very weak 2.1 update, it seems to me that Google might want to show profits to demanding stockholders and perhaps have put the Android Development on "coast" instead of going forward to continue to make serious headway into the iPhone market share. Now's the time to put the pedal to the medal. If you can't fix obvious and simple errors like this one, I'm loathe to say that the OS on the Droid will not change much at all - if again - over the lfie of the device.

Their are so many ways to get around this, the fact that this thread went on as long as it did is embarressing. Plus, this is a cell phone, you can take it with you, how are you missing +30 calls a day? Are you that important that you can't talk to people when they call you? You have to call them back when you want?

You ***** about Android OS when only Android OS would let you DL an app to cater to your rediculously picky needs. Also, this phone has been out for 6 months and had 2 major OS updates, 2.1 might be slightley dissapointing to some but my phone now runs smoother with increased battery life which is all I could ask.

I suggest going back to a BB.

 

[zero7404]

if u pick the call in the log, doesn't it say when exactly the call took place ?
i don't keep track of my calls to the detailed minute and second the call ended, but it is a more exacting and 'accurate' way to represent the last time the call took place.

only thing i wanted more would be a call duration displayed right in the call log without selecting the log entry to find out ...

 

[BayouFlyFisher]

if u pick the call in the log, doesn't it say when exactly the call took place ?
i don't keep track of my calls to the detailed minute and second the call ended, but it is a more exacting and 'accurate' way to represent the last time the call took place.

only thing i wanted more would be a call duration displayed right in the call log without selecting the log entry to find out ...

You mean like DIALER ONE does???? It's free in the market and can be used instead of the native dialer and call list. It displays the call duration, date and time of day the call was made.

 

[adrynalyne]

I run a crane company here in Hawaii and I cannot even try to guess why you would be clicking on EVERY call that comes in trying to nail down EXACT times on EVERY call... I'm dying to hear that one

This might be really tough for you to fathom.

I review the rolling log once in the morning and afternoon to see who may have called, calls I've missed and am able to know on ANY phone other than the Droid - AT A GLANCE - whether a call was made or came in on Monday or Tuesday. With this dumb phone "within 48 hours" or "within 72 hours" doesn't tell me anything. So it's Wednesday today and by just rolling through the log I can get a take on important numbers to tag in an instant.

Try moving to a city like New York, Boston or LA, where things move quickly. The log, which is STANDARD on phones for a long, long time, get the day of the week right. EVERY phone.

There is NO APP to fix this efficiently and what is really annoying is that Google has literally thousands of bugs that remain oustanding many months later. So what exactly has changed in 2.1? The lack of updates to the OS are downright embarrassing.

I give you the Blackberry STorm - say what you want, but Blackberry has continuously updated that phone's OS. Same thing with even Palm's WebOS.

Android? They couldn't even get a minor update like 2.1 out properly and what did it do? Add in Google's Goggles? Toss in a few new apps to bundle into the ROM? As enthusiastic as I have been about Android, it makes me wonder whether the OS will feel more refined than just patchwork.

My guess - the Droid will stay like this. They will come out with 2.5 or 3.0 eventually but it will never see the light of day on this phone. I like my phone but it's frustrating...

*Chuckle*

The storm os only got continual updates to fix the POS it was. Out of all those updates, how many were official?

 

[adrynalyne]

Grab Dialer One from the Market and use its call log. It'll display exact time/date for you.

Thanks for the heads-up. I really like this app and it's extremely level of customization!!

I've always liked the android dialer, but this one is pretty sweet.

 

[slinky]

Grab Dialer One from the Market and use its call log. It'll display exact time/date for you.

Thanks for the heads-up. I really like this app and it's extremely level of customization!!

I've always liked the android dialer, but this one is pretty sweet.

Thanks....

@Spillner - what's embarrassing is that it took this long for someone to defend an app that does the log properly and has a BETTER dialer than the stock one. You guys are crapping your pants if someone has a legitimate criticism of your precious phone. The reason people love their blackberries are because of little things like this that it seems that Moto couldn't get right on the phone.

1. Easy quick one press access to the phone when you need it
2. A good dialer/contacts/log application
3. Easy to answer and end calls

I really like my droid but it took me a long time to get it to the point where it works well. I completely understand why many choose the iPhone, Blackberry or other phone. It's because out of the box some of these guys did the basic things well.

What annoys me is that in almost a year's time the most basic aspects of a phone have not been fixed. Thanks a lot for dialer one - it's very good and I don't care about the eyesore. But Google has to get its act together and start improving the basics. It feels like even Windows 7 will come out before they standardize the basics so we don't need loads of overlays to replace verything, eat up valuable memory and make the phone go slower. Kudos...

 

[zero7404]

if u pick the call in the log, doesn't it say when exactly the call took place ?
i don't keep track of my calls to the detailed minute and second the call ended, but it is a more exacting and 'accurate' way to represent the last time the call took place.

only thing i wanted more would be a call duration displayed right in the call log without selecting the log entry to find out ...

You mean like DIALER ONE does???? It's free in the market and can be used instead of the native dialer and call list. It displays the call duration, date and time of day the call was made.

i don't use apps that duplicate functionality that is already built-in, only exception being the browser ...

selecting an entry in the call log will give all the information the OP is looking for ....

not sure why you keep pushing this subject, i read some of your posts and for a 'supporting member' you seem to be ranting at other members ....

 

[slinky]

if u pick the call in the log, doesn't it say when exactly the call took place ?

No. The problem is that looking at the log you can't even tell whether someone called you yesterday (Tuesday) or two days ago (Monday.) The only way to figure this out is to click through on each individual entry and get the exact date. Today is Wednesday. Most phones that say "Yesterday" mean "Tuesday" and will provide dates for going further back.

Google's mistake was making "Yesterday" mean "more than 24 hours ago. So you can't tell whether a call "yesterday" means Tuesday or Monday without clicking through to see the full date. Every entry in the log is the say, e.g. "5 days ago" which actually means "more than 120 hours ago but less than 148 hours ago." "2 days ago" doesn't mean Monday... it means "more than 48 hours but less than 72 hours ago." Thanks... that's really meaningful. People don't communicate this way.

i don't use apps that duplicate functionality that is already built-in, only exception being the browser ...
selecting an entry in the call log will give all the information the OP is looking for ....
not sure why you keep pushing this subject, i read some of your posts and for a 'supporting member' you seem to be ranting at other members ....

I became annoyed when Droid phans tried too hard to insist this isn't a bug and I should quit my venting. As I said, I'm in a busy city, not Hawaii, and not having something like scanning a useful call log is very annoying. I don't think it's too much to expect Google to fix something this ridiculously simple in a year's time.

 

[BayouFlyFisher]

No. The problem is that looking at the log you can't even tell whether someone called you yesterday (Tuesday) or two days ago (Monday.) The only way to figure this out is to click through on each individual entry and get the exact date. Today is Wednesday. Most phones that say "Yesterday" mean "Tuesday" and will provide dates for going further back.

Google's mistake was making "Yesterday" mean "more than 24 hours ago. So you can't tell whether a call "yesterday" means Tuesday or Monday without clicking through to see the full date. Every entry in the log is the say, e.g. "5 days ago" which actually means "more than 120 hours ago but less than 148 hours ago." "2 days ago" doesn't mean Monday... it means "more than 48 hours but less than 72 hours ago." Thanks... that's really meaningful. People don't communicate this way.


I became annoyed when Droid phans tried too hard to insist this isn't a bug and I should quit my venting. As I said, I'm in a busy city, not Hawaii, and not having something like scanning a useful call log is very annoying. I don't think it's too much to expect Google to fix something this ridiculously simple in a year's time.

Well what may be a serious problem for one user may not bother others at all. That does not diminish the problem for you. What I don't understand though is that you were complaining about a lack of functionality and yet when a solution was presented, you seemed to ignore it and continue to argue the point. I had never heard of Dialer One until I read about it in this thread. I immediately went and downloaded. It totally solves the lack of functionality you were complaining about. It lists the call duration, date of call and time of call for each number or person. Did I miss something or was the lack of this function not your main interest? Does it really matter how the functionality is delivered - via Google, via Motorola, via free app?

 

[warrior21]

No. The problem is that looking at the log you can't even tell whether someone called you yesterday (Tuesday) or two days ago (Monday.)

Well what may be a serious problem for one user may not bother others at all. That does not diminish the problem for you. What I don't understand though is that you were complaining about a lack of functionality and yet when a solution was presented, you seemed to ignore it and continue to argue the point. I had never heard of Dialer One until I read about it in this thread. I immediately went and downloaded. It totally solves the lack of functionality you were complaining about. It lists the call duration, date of call and time of call for each number or person. Did I miss something or was the lack of this function not your main interest? Does it really matter how the functionality is delivered - via Google, via Motorola, via free app?

Just downloaded it from the market. Man this is a great app, completely customizable

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[spillner]

Thanks for the heads-up. I really like this app and it's extremely level of customization!!

I've always liked the android dialer, but this one is pretty sweet.

Thanks....

@Spillner - what's embarrassing is that it took this long for someone to defend an app that does the log properly and has a BETTER dialer than the stock one. You guys are crapping your pants if someone has a legitimate criticism of your precious phone. The reason people love their blackberries are because of little things like this that it seems that Moto couldn't get right on the phone.

1. Easy quick one press access to the phone when you need it
2. A good dialer/contacts/log application
3. Easy to answer and end calls

I really like my droid but it took me a long time to get it to the point where it works well. I completely understand why many choose the iPhone, Blackberry or other phone. It's because out of the box some of these guys did the basic things well.

What annoys me is that in almost a year's time the most basic aspects of a phone have not been fixed. Thanks a lot for dialer one - it's very good and I don't care about the eyesore. But Google has to get its act together and start improving the basics. It feels like even Windows 7 will come out before they standardize the basics so we don't need loads of overlays to replace verything, eat up valuable memory and make the phone go slower. Kudos...

Well lets see, I have a phone button on my screen that takes me straight to the dialer with one push (just like everyone else), The dialer works just as it should, contacts work just like it should. Calling or ending a call are done with the push of one button, how could it be any simpler? You can customize the log to delete returned phone calls so your list isn't so big (honestly you never answered my question of how your missing 30+ phone calls on a cell phone). Your just too lazy to use it the way its set up. Not to mention theirs an app to make it the way you want.

I guess the big problem is that if you had just asked "is their a way to get the call log to display the exact time of each call without selecting each individual call?" you would have gotten 1-2 posts telling you about dialer one (which is free) and that would have been that, instead you continued to b***h about it even after the solution was given. How many other phones let you change the stock dialer and call log? Can't be too many. If this phone is too much for you then go back to BB or switch to an iPhone, Apple makes sure they accommodate to the lowest common denominator.

 

[Threepio]

If you click on the contacts name or phone number in the call log it brings about a detailed log of when they called, how long the phone call was, the date...all the goodies you need!

This :icon_ banana:

 

[slinky]

Well lets see, I have a phone button on my screen that takes me straight to the dialer with one push (just like everyone else),

Really? Do you have that phone button ALWAYS available on your screen or are you just trying to be sarcastic but fail to have your facts straight? Unless I'm on the home screen, I have no way to immediately click to use the phone application. I'm stuck with using Voice Dialer/Search which isn't a solution on noisy city streets. And then it's click, click, click...

The dialer works just as it should, contacts work just like it should. Calling or ending a call are done with the push of one button, how could it be any simpler?

Perhaps you're using an iPhone or Blackberry.
1. Making a call requires you to navigate to the phone button to make a call. It's never a one button press. For me and everyone else it is at least three if you aren't on the home screen. Two presses on the home hard button and then one to launch the phone button.

2. Answering a call is not a simple button press. You have to do this ridiculous swipe. If you've been working out or your hands might be a little greasy, just finishing this task is a chore and you can miss calls. I cannot understand any reason for this stupid swipe, which sometimes doesn't complete my first "swipe" or it lags so I keep swiping to make sure the phone answers. Do you have a different system we should know about? Is there a reason I can't press an "answer call button?"

3. Ending a call is not done in a push button unless you're in the call. Do a search here and find how many people didn't realize their call was not ended. The Droid is the most unreliable phone and I usually need to make sure the call is ended. While there is no hard button, at least I can understand that I can pull down the alerts and get back to the phone screen easily and then click the end call button. Now why couldn't I answer my calls the same way?

You can customize the log to delete returned phone calls so your list isn't so big (honestly you never answered my question of how your missing 30+ phone calls on a cell phone). Your just too lazy to use it the way its set up. Not to mention theirs an app to make it the way you want.

No, you're just too lazy to actually have a work day that means something, evidently. My minutes are more important to use than going to a log to manually delete any of the 40+ calls I get or make. I never had to delete the log before so why should I bother now? If the log worked properly like every other phone this wouldn't be an issue. Read the problem below.

I guess the big problem is that if you had just asked "is their a way to get the call log to display the exact time of each call without selecting each individual call?" you would have gotten 1-2 posts telling you about dialer one (which is free) and that would have been that, instead you continued to b***h about it even after the solution was given. How many other phones let you change the stock dialer and call log? Can't be too many. If this phone is too much for you then go back to BB or switch to an iPhone, Apple makes sure they accommodate to the lowest common denominator.

I guess the big problem is that people like you suffer from a lack of reading comprehension skills. The problem is NOT that the phone needs to display the exact time and date instantly. The problem is that the words "yesterday" and "two days ago" and "three days ago" do NOT refer to the days of the week, which is how every phone works. Instead, "two days ago" means "48-72 hours ago" which can mean Tuesday or Wednesday instead of simply "Wednesday" as is the way people speak around the globe. Accept it.

Or better yet, why don't you tell people that you'll meet them "tomorrow" but show up on Sunday instead of Saturday because to you "tomorrow" meant some time in the next 24-48 hours and not the next week day?

@ BayouFlyFisher - we've long discussed the issue about installed the ugly but more effective phone dialer replacement application. My entire complaint with Android has been that I've had to waste countless hours to replace every stock application on the phone because they are so pitiful. We should not have to rely efforts of small private developers to hope they do what any phone operating system should provide stock and do well.