That movie was terribad.
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[Breaking]Verizon Plans to Slow Downloads of High Data Users Because of iPhone Launch
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That movie was terribad.
I've got kids, so I actually had to pay money to get it on ppv! Not Academy Award material - SAG maybe, but not Oscar....
Just painful on so many levels....
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Just painful on so many levels....
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The only good movie he's been in since "The Rock" became Dwayne Johnson imo.
Are we really having the iphone vs android argument yet again.
I am gonna copy what I said on the iphone forum because it will suit this situation as well.
I love the droid and I choose it over the iphone but I love and respect what apple is doing. People are ignorant to believe that apple is not setting trends. The touch screen smart phone was popular before the iphone but iphone marketed and made a ui simple for all to enjoy and to follow and compete you now see android and windows doing the same thing. The Iphone is 2 years a head of android and though android is catching up fast they are using a lot of ideas first found on the iphone. Why was dolphon browser so popular last year, cuz it offered pinch to zoom just like the iphone did and users wanted that experience. Now android had to put touch to zoom in their native browser. Itunes, app stores, apps, all from what users see on the iphone. About a year ago I saw some tablets but no one cared about such a thing the netbook was the way to go. Then Steve Jobs show up with an ipad and all people can do is laugh at it not having flash. Now every computer manufacturer and phone manufacturer is throwing out some form of tablet, heck their are companies whose name you can not pronounce throwing out some type of tablet. Say what you want about apple but they lead from the front and they may not be the first with something but they know how to take it and make it better and market it so when you think about it you think apple. When you think about tablets one of the first you think of is the ipad. When you think about smartphones apple is in the mix. Laptop you have to say apple. So apple knows how to market a product very well and they know how to sway the market and I hope apple stay strong because if it was not for them my droid would not be where it is at now. There are things android users mock from the iphone and things iphone users mock from the droid, in the end we have 2 great o.s and device and the choice in device will be based on what I prefer at the time and right now I am loving android more as far as phone, but apple as far as tablet.
Point being you can not take away what apple has done and what they continue to do with one os and one device. Android is multiple devices on multiple carriers. Its like if you put a macbook pro head to head with an asus the mac book will crush it in sales. But if you take all pc laptops and compare it with macbook of course pc would win because the os is on different device. Android os is an evolving operating system that is designed to work on multiple platforms and allows different users to share similar experiences regardless of device and the result equals more sells but the trade off is fragmentation. The droid may be on froyo while the cliq is still on cupcake.
Apple is one os meant and designed by the same company. Its made simple so any can use and only one source distributes the product. Because one source distributes they have ultimate control and can ensure that an update will work for all devices. The trade off is that ios 4 may not work as smooth or at the level on the iphone 3g as it will the ios4 and that is because like android the hardware helps bring out the true power of the os.
Point being we all have our choice and I think we should embrace the competition and enjoy the technology we get out of it.
I am gonna copy what I said on the iphone forum because it will suit this situation as well.
I love the droid and I choose it over the iphone but I love and respect what apple is doing. People are ignorant to believe that apple is not setting trends. The touch screen smart phone was popular before the iphone but iphone marketed and made a ui simple for all to enjoy and to follow and compete you now see android and windows doing the same thing. The Iphone is 2 years a head of android and though android is catching up fast they are using a lot of ideas first found on the iphone. Why was dolphon browser so popular last year, cuz it offered pinch to zoom just like the iphone did and users wanted that experience. Now android had to put touch to zoom in their native browser. Itunes, app stores, apps, all from what users see on the iphone. About a year ago I saw some tablets but no one cared about such a thing the netbook was the way to go. Then Steve Jobs show up with an ipad and all people can do is laugh at it not having flash. Now every computer manufacturer and phone manufacturer is throwing out some form of tablet, heck their are companies whose name you can not pronounce throwing out some type of tablet. Say what you want about apple but they lead from the front and they may not be the first with something but they know how to take it and make it better and market it so when you think about it you think apple. When you think about tablets one of the first you think of is the ipad. When you think about smartphones apple is in the mix. Laptop you have to say apple. So apple knows how to market a product very well and they know how to sway the market and I hope apple stay strong because if it was not for them my droid would not be where it is at now. There are things android users mock from the iphone and things iphone users mock from the droid, in the end we have 2 great o.s and device and the choice in device will be based on what I prefer at the time and right now I am loving android more as far as phone, but apple as far as tablet.
Point being you can not take away what apple has done and what they continue to do with one os and one device. Android is multiple devices on multiple carriers. Its like if you put a macbook pro head to head with an asus the mac book will crush it in sales. But if you take all pc laptops and compare it with macbook of course pc would win because the os is on different device. Android os is an evolving operating system that is designed to work on multiple platforms and allows different users to share similar experiences regardless of device and the result equals more sells but the trade off is fragmentation. The droid may be on froyo while the cliq is still on cupcake.
Apple is one os meant and designed by the same company. Its made simple so any can use and only one source distributes the product. Because one source distributes they have ultimate control and can ensure that an update will work for all devices. The trade off is that ios 4 may not work as smooth or at the level on the iphone 3g as it will the ios4 and that is because like android the hardware helps bring out the true power of the os.
Point being we all have our choice and I think we should embrace the competition and enjoy the technology we get out of it.
smokiedabong
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Why do you feel the need to use metaphors ? It's not like people don't know what an iPhone or a Droid are and what are capable of . You may ass well say the iPhone is fur and Android leather , but what's the purpose in doing so ?
LOL, I'm not in denial, I just know the sales data does not support the awe you hold for the IPhone. IPhone smartphone market share is 25-30%. That is a market leader, for an individual unit, but not dominant. You can talk about 70 android handsets or whatever, it's cuts both ways - there's not a dominant Android phone because no brand has established itself and it's remarkably easy to switch brands. It's just a different animal. It's not like people are paying $250,000 for a BMW instead of a Ferrari. The IPhone and a variety of Android phones are far closer substitutes than you will acknowledge, the global market data bears that out.
I know your views and expectations of the market are not significantly different from mine, but you make comparisons and choose superlatives that don't reflect that at all and don't fit the data (if English is your 2nd language, then I owe you an apology). Please, the IPhone is not the Ferrari here, again you putting the IPhone up on the pedestal of Ferrari is just not reality, BMW vs Mercedes is a better comparison, or if you prefer Ferrari vs Lamborghini. IOS is not perfect, either, it has its share of complaints, but you continue to act like there is no valid reason to choose Android over IOS, all else equal, even though you yourself did precisely that.
I mean, a few months ago you were making statements how VZW would never promote LTE alongside IPhone and how they were going to drop everything for at least a few months with the IPhone. And yet they are running commercials emphasizing "the BEST line-up of SMARTPHONES" and, lo an behold, here comes the LTE Thunderbolt barely 5-10 days after the IPhone launch.
We'll watch this play out on VZW. I already know the result because it's played out globally. You act like AT&T US is the only carrier that's had the IPhone.
Try reading the data. Over 40% of all new smartphones are Android, IOS has been flat between 25-30%. Symbian and BB are declining significantly - where's that going, pretty obvious it's Android. And about 300,000 Android activations a day? No, those aren't all new devices, but the upgrade rate is much, much lower than IOS because most Android upgrades have only started to turn in the last few months, and most are probably only entering the 2nd half of a 2-yr contract.
I argue with data. I base my opinions on data. You make statements like "IPhone is the Ferrari and the Android/BMW isn't close". You make statements like "IPhone will outsell all Android handsets COMBINED on VZW" and no analyst believes that. In fact, you've admitted you didn't consider AT&T converts a wash, yet here you are again making that same superlative statement that distorts reality.
You also don't appear to have a clue what you are talking about with LTE. You act like it's not widespread, then ignore the potential for Android but make a claim like IPhone will dominate when it's LTE. Here's a fact: those 38 cities account for 1/3 the US population and probably over 1/3 the smartphone population. That's already a significant market, and growing quickly with 2 dozen more cities.
People are considering paying retail for LTE phones. That's a huge seller. LTE is the VZW flagship, not the IPhone. Ask yourself one simple question: which would be the bigger failure for VZW:
1) The VZW IPhone doesn't work and won't work.
2) LTE doesn't work and won't work.
I'll give you the answer in case you can't see it through the apple-colored glasses. 1) = embarassment, a hit to the stock price 2) = bankruptcy
more data: Andoid was 53% of US smartphone sales in Q4, IOS slips 4 points to 19%
NPD: Android soars to 53% of US smartphone sales in Q4 - Android News
People keep saying those affected deserve it- I've used 2 TERABYTES in 6 months on my phone, with minimal video and no tethering at all. I keep my phone synced with Facebook Gmail, calendar and twitter, occasionally run aim. I think I've downloaded 1, maybe 2 large (over 10 MB) files over 3G. I don't want my data coming in any more lagged then it does due to my battery saving limits (juice defender, auto refresh every hour). Throttle would sorta kill me when I do in fact want to use video and audio.
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fine italian leather while android is like pleather.
Sorry, I'm done. Couldn't resist that one.
Haha now you want me to explain the purpose of a metaphor? I don't think I have time to teach you the nuances of the english language. Maybe someone else will volunteer?
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HOW is that possible?!? Do you stream pandora all day, and I mean literally 24x7 even when you are sleeping? Do your widgets and mail poll every 2 seconds or something?
Mind boggling. You use more data in 1 day then I do in 6 months.
OneTenderRebel
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2 terabytes???? you must have watched the tooth fairy on your phone atleast 2500 times.
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