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[Breaking]Verizon Plans to Slow Downloads of High Data Users Because of iPhone Launch

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[the fact that the iphone is being released without bloatware is one prime example of that.

of course the iphone is a premier device. your denial of that is odd. it takes 70+ android devices across 4 networks to barely beat the sales of one device on one network in the US. every phone that is released is compared to the iphone, or dubbed an iphone killer...sounds kinda premier to me...

Again, your nostalgia and blind awe for the IPhone continues to cloud your judgement.

First, you DO NOT know what Jobs gave up for no bloatware, it could be a lower subsidy or a number of other things. He negotiates just like any other manufacturer, except in this case they bring to the table some 6M AT&T converts and that's the main leverage.

Second, Android caught the IPhone share in the US in about a year, and a lot of that has to do with the IPhone being around for 3+ years. If you remove upgrades, Android crushed IPhone sales. If you look at first-time smartphone buyers, Android crushed IPhone sales, by a wide-enough margin that you can't say "1 carrier".

An IPhone is like a Porsche. It's a great product. But there ARE Android phones out there like Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, etc...It is purely your opinion and preference that the Porsche is better, but it is flat ignorance to claim the others are not also premier vehicles.

Now, you're a guy who claims to love his BMW and couldn't be happier, yet it seems like you really really want a Porsche. I mean, it's really quite puzzling - you're not an IPhone fanboy, but you talk like one.

wait what? because i'm not in denial about how important the iphone is for verizon this makes me a fanboy? if i wanted an iphone i'd have one. do you assume that i use my droid daily and then lay in bed with my picture of an iphone and talk to it before going to sleep, promising never to let anyone know how much i love it? that's weird. we've been going back and forth for a couple of months now about this and i think it's your blind awe and fascination with android that's disturbing.

to keep on with your theme, your the guy that sees the mercedes, lexus, bmw and think they're in the same class as the ferrari. they're not. android is great, it's not ios. you're the guy who would swear up and down that the lexus is just as good as the ferrari, when everyone around you knows it clearly isn't. maybe a need to feel like you made the right decision? undoubtedly. i know i made the right decision when i chose android, for several reasons. one of those reasons wasn't because it's better than ios. because it's not. however, i'm a geek, and android is about as geeky as it gets. there's so much you can do, so much you can learn, and so much freedom with android and that's what drew me to it. i make the most out of my droid. not because "OMG it's an iphone killer!! ios sucks"...that's blind and foolish. further, i dont need to justify my android purchase by downplaying ios. android works for me, iphone doesn't, but iphone works for millions upon millions and will outsell every android phone on VZW combined as well as shatter it's own sales records. Once an LTE version comes along, forget about it.

i'll say it again. talk to me when the iphone sales numbers are released. you keep downplaying those numbers as "upgrades"...i hope that you don't really think that 300,000 brand new people are signing up for android devices everyday. clearly the overwhelming majority of those are upgrades too (probably cuz the phone they bought 8 months ago is now EOL :icon_eek: ).

and again with "crushed iphone sales"...it took 70+ devices to "crush" one device. stop downplaying what's in front of your face. this is like me saying i own nissan, honda, toyota and ford car dealerships in new york, miami, los angeles, chicago and atlanta and i "crushed" your kia dealership in provo, utah. i mean...great? is that really a huge accomplishment? i think it's more impressive that your kias were barely outsold by all the varieties of my cars in 5 cities. there is no real comparison between the wide availability and variety in android and the rigidity of ios. the real telling thing is that ios has been able to stick around even with that much competition. and by stick around i don't mean barely stick around. android barely outsells ios, not "crushes" it.

you and i have gone through every possible argument with this. first you were claiming that apple would never release an iphone on verizon because it would cannibalize itself, then you said there's no pent up demand for the iphone on verizon and anyone who wanted it would have already gotten it (clearly every analyst on the planet disagrees with you, and i think they have a little bit more credibility), then you claimed that the iphone on verizon is "old tech" all the while claiming that the D1 is still relevant (what?), then you claimed that verizon didn't need the iphone and acted like apple was begging them or something, and now you're claiming that the reason verizon is thinking about throttling is not because of the millions of new subscribers they're going to get from the iphone, but rather because of LTE which (1) is barely available and (2) very, very few people are going to be utilizing for at least 2 years. you're not going to see a huge influx of bionic or thunderbolt users next week, clamoring to get their 4g on. if you're waiting for that you'll be sorely disappointed.
 
So far as current 3G speeds are concerned, i will be doing some short number crunching when i get home from work to determine several things related to downlink/uplink speeds, predicted maximum users, signal interference, estimated users in a given area (assuming vzw has 1/3rd of the US population this is no big task), all to figure out what, within a given value of time and congestion, the average speeds should look like in my area.

Because right now at -67dbm with 3 towers in range and hardly any residential traffic i am crawling by at less than 50 Kbps/400 kbps/.4 mbps.

I believe they already throttle data, and will try to emulate the statistics along with typical predicted 3G speeds to figure this out.

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[the fact that the iphone is being released without bloatware is one prime example of that.

of course the iphone is a premier device. your denial of that is odd. it takes 70+ android devices across 4 networks to barely beat the sales of one device on one network in the US. every phone that is released is compared to the iphone, or dubbed an iphone killer...sounds kinda premier to me...

Again, your nostalgia and blind awe for the IPhone continues to cloud your judgement.

First, you DO NOT know what Jobs gave up for no bloatware, it could be a lower subsidy or a number of other things. He negotiates just like any other manufacturer, except in this case they bring to the table some 6M AT&T converts and that's the main leverage.

Second, Android caught the IPhone share in the US in about a year, and a lot of that has to do with the IPhone being around for 3+ years. If you remove upgrades, Android crushed IPhone sales. If you look at first-time smartphone buyers, Android crushed IPhone sales, by a wide-enough margin that you can't say "1 carrier".

An IPhone is like a Porsche. It's a great product. But there ARE Android phones out there like Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, etc...It is purely your opinion and preference that the Porsche is better, but it is flat ignorance to claim the others are not also premier vehicles.

Now, you're a guy who claims to love his BMW and couldn't be happier, yet it seems like you really really want a Porsche. I mean, it's really quite puzzling - you're not an IPhone fanboy, but you talk like one.

wait what? because i'm not in denial about how important the iphone is for verizon this makes me a fanboy? if i wanted an iphone i'd have one. do you assume that i use my droid daily and then lay in bed with my picture of an iphone and talk to it before going to sleep, promising never to let anyone know how much i love it? that's weird. we've been going back and forth for a couple of months now about this and i think it's your blind awe and fascination with android that's disturbing.

to keep on with your theme, your the guy that sees the mercedes, lexus, bmw and think they're in the same class as the ferrari. they're not. android is great, it's not ios. you're the guy who would swear up and down that the lexus is just as good as the ferrari, when everyone around you knows it clearly isn't. maybe a need to feel like you made the right decision? undoubtedly. i know i made the right decision when i chose android, for several reasons. one of those reasons wasn't because it's better than ios. because it's not. however, i'm a geek, and android is about as geeky as it gets. there's so much you can do, so much you can learn, and so much freedom with android and that's what drew me to it. i make the most out of my droid. not because "OMG it's an iphone killer!! ios sucks"...that's blind and foolish. further, i dont need to justify my android purchase by downplaying ios. android works for me, iphone doesn't, but iphone works for millions upon millions and will outsell every android phone on VZW combined as well as shatter it's own sales records. Once an LTE version comes along, forget about it.

i'll say it again. talk to me when the iphone sales numbers are released. you keep downplaying those numbers as "upgrades"...i hope that you don't really think that 300,000 brand new people are signing up for android devices everyday. clearly the overwhelming majority of those are upgrades too (probably cuz the phone they bought 8 months ago is now EOL :icon_eek: ).

and again with "crushed iphone sales"...it took 70+ devices to "crush" one device. stop downplaying what's in front of your face. this is like me saying i own nissan, honda, toyota and ford car dealerships in new york, miami, los angeles, chicago and atlanta and i "crushed" your kia dealership in provo, utah. i mean...great? is that really a huge accomplishment? i think it's more impressive that your kias were barely outsold by all the varieties of my cars in 5 cities. there is no real comparison between the wide availability and variety in android and the rigidity of ios. the real telling thing is that ios has been able to stick around even with that much competition. and by stick around i don't mean barely stick around. android barely outsells ios, not "crushes" it.

you and i have gone through every possible argument with this. first you were claiming that apple would never release an iphone on verizon because it would cannibalize itself, then you said there's no pent up demand for the iphone on verizon and anyone who wanted it would have already gotten it (clearly every analyst on the planet disagrees with you, and i think they have a little bit more credibility), then you claimed that the iphone on verizon is "old tech" all the while claiming that the D1 is still relevant (what?), then you claimed that verizon didn't need the iphone and acted like apple was begging them or something, and now you're claiming that the reason verizon is thinking about throttling is not because of the millions of new subscribers they're going to get from the iphone, but rather because of LTE which (1) is barely available and (2) very, very few people are going to be utilizing for at least 2 years. you're not going to see a huge influx of bionic or thunderbolt users next week, clamoring to get their 4g on. if you're waiting for that you'll be sorely disappointed.

What I bolded is what some ppl think about when it comes to iPhone fanatics....

Whats makes the ferrari better than the lexus? The name? The price? The parts? It goes faster?

What about gas efficiency, cost for repairs, cost of insurance, interior space, trunk space. If you took everybody in America and they all had 20 million dollars, everyone wouldnt choose the ferrari.

Everybody will make up their own mind about whats best...for them.

Best Super Luxury Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

Best Exotic Sports Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

For gas efficiency, I wouldnt get a ferrari. So that wouldnt make it better....to me.

You say Android isnt better than the iPhone....thats your opinion. Like its opinion those that say Android is better than the iPhone. After using my Android phone and how I use it, I cant see myself using the iPhone. Ever.

And I'm sure there are ppl that feel the same way about Android after using the iPhone.
 
And about those iPhone sales....notice how the iPhone doesnt really go up much after all those sales of the iPhone when looking at those market share graphs? That means not many new users...

See how Android continues to grow, n grow n grow? That means new users.
 
What I bolded is what some ppl think about when it comes to iPhone fanatics....

Whats makes the ferrari better than the lexus? The name? The price? The parts? It goes faster?

What about gas efficiency, cost for repairs, cost of insurance, interior space, trunk space. If you took everybody in America and they all had 20 million dollars, everyone wouldnt choose the ferrari.

Everybody will make up their own mind about whats best...for them.

Best Super Luxury Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

Best Exotic Sports Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

For gas efficiency, I wouldnt get a ferrari. So that wouldnt make it better....to me.

You say Android isnt better than the iPhone....thats your opinion. Like its opinion those that say Android is better than the iPhone. After using my Android phone and how I use it, I cant see myself using the iPhone. Ever.

And I'm sure there are ppl that feel the same way about Android after using the iPhone.

I used the ferrari as an example only to relate exactly what you said. That people see something and whether it's brand, status whatever they'll get it. I could have easily said kias and corollas. Same difference. My point was downplaying the ferrari because you like the bmw is dumb. Clearly the ferrari is a great car. And the iphone is a great phone. It's dumb to say that the iphone is getting crushed when it's seventy to one.

And of course it's my opinion. But again, it's the greatest selling phone in history...none comes close. My opinion has a little bit of merit I think.

It's clearly a good phone. To tout outselling the iphone when you have three times the customer base is not a crushing victory. I think it's more of a victory for apple that worth that much competition, people still feel the need to compare every new device to the iphone.

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And about those iPhone sales....notice how the iPhone doesnt really go up much after all those sales of the iPhone when looking at those market share graphs? That means not many new users...

See how Android continues to grow, n grow n grow? That means new users.

android is growing because it's new. It's going to plateau just like the iphone has. It's not going to be activating a million a day in two years. It's market share is growing because it started at like eight percent. It's not going to grow out of control forever....

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What I bolded is what some ppl think about when it comes to iPhone fanatics....

Whats makes the ferrari better than the lexus? The name? The price? The parts? It goes faster?

What about gas efficiency, cost for repairs, cost of insurance, interior space, trunk space. If you took everybody in America and they all had 20 million dollars, everyone wouldnt choose the ferrari.

Everybody will make up their own mind about whats best...for them.

Best Super Luxury Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

Best Exotic Sports Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

For gas efficiency, I wouldnt get a ferrari. So that wouldnt make it better....to me.

You say Android isnt better than the iPhone....thats your opinion. Like its opinion those that say Android is better than the iPhone. After using my Android phone and how I use it, I cant see myself using the iPhone. Ever.

And I'm sure there are ppl that feel the same way about Android after using the iPhone.

I used the ferrari as an example only to relate exactly what you said. That people see something and whether it's brand, status whatever they'll get it. I could have easily said kias and corollas. Same difference. My point was downplaying the ferrari because you like the bmw is dumb. Clearly the ferrari is a great car. And the iphone is a great phone. It's dumb to say that the iphone is getting crushed when it's seventy to one.

And of course it's my opinion. But again, it's the greatest selling phone in history...none comes close. My opinion has a little bit of merit I think.

It's clearly a good phone. To tout outselling the iphone when you have three times the customer base is not a crushing victory. I think it's more of a victory for apple that worth that much competition, people still feel the need to compare every new device to the iphone.

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Not denying the iPhone is a great phone....but there are Academy Award winning movies that make very lil money at the box office.

And there are some movies that make millions.....that arent worth bootlegging.
 
What I bolded is what some ppl think about when it comes to iPhone fanatics....

Whats makes the ferrari better than the lexus? The name? The price? The parts? It goes faster?

What about gas efficiency, cost for repairs, cost of insurance, interior space, trunk space. If you took everybody in America and they all had 20 million dollars, everyone wouldnt choose the ferrari.

Everybody will make up their own mind about whats best...for them.

Best Super Luxury Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

Best Exotic Sports Cars - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

For gas efficiency, I wouldnt get a ferrari. So that wouldnt make it better....to me.

You say Android isnt better than the iPhone....thats your opinion. Like its opinion those that say Android is better than the iPhone. After using my Android phone and how I use it, I cant see myself using the iPhone. Ever.

And I'm sure there are ppl that feel the same way about Android after using the iPhone.

I used the ferrari as an example only to relate exactly what you said. That people see something and whether it's brand, status whatever they'll get it. I could have easily said kias and corollas. Same difference. My point was downplaying the ferrari because you like the bmw is dumb. Clearly the ferrari is a great car. And the iphone is a great phone. It's dumb to say that the iphone is getting crushed when it's seventy to one.

And of course it's my opinion. But again, it's the greatest selling phone in history...none comes close. My opinion has a little bit of merit I think.

It's clearly a good phone. To tout outselling the iphone when you have three times the customer base is not a crushing victory. I think it's more of a victory for apple that worth that much competition, people still feel the need to compare every new device to the iphone.

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Not denying the iPhone is a great phone....but there are Academy Award winning movies that make very lil money at the box office.

And there are some movies that make millions.....that arent worth bootlegging.

You've piqued my curiosity. What academy award winning film bombed at the box office haha

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How the hell did the iPhone got to be compared to a Ferrari . Both phones have the same price and pretty much the same hardware .

I gotta stop using metaphors. Clearly it's beyond done of the users here...

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They are just using sub categorical comparisons.

It's just a general comparison and they don't get that.

When you think Ferrari you think top of the line, when you think Lexus you think expensive luxury vehicle.

Simple as that...
 
The Tooth Fairy starring the Rock, pretty sure it won all sorts of Academy Awards but didn't fetch a lot of cashola in the office of boxes.
 
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