[Breaking]Verizon Plans to Slow Downloads of High Data Users Because of iPhone Launch

[jroc]

Keeping me on my toes....lol:

Unforgiven - 159 million

Driving Miss daisy - 145 million

Crash - 98 million

Hurt Locker 49 million

The Last Emperor - 43 million

And even less money made for movies that won Academy Awards for best Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, etc.

Precious made very lil money but won Academy Awards for other things besides best picture. It made 62 million.

 

[czerdrill]

Keeping me on my toes....lol:

Unforgiven - 159 million

Driving Miss daisy - 145 million

Crash - 98 million

Hurt Locker 49 million

The Last Emperor - 43 million

And even less money made for movies that won Academy Awards for best Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, etc.

Precious made very lil money but won Academy Awards for other things besides best picture. It made 62 million.

haha damn you sure expect a lot! 145 million and 159 million is considered a box office flop? plus i think all those movies made several times their budget...i wouldnt call them flops :icon_ banana::icon_ banana:

 

[kptphalkon]

Honestly i have not heard of any of those movies. I need to get out more.

I will follow up my previous post about estimated real world network speeds allowing for congestion, population, smartphone user statistics, typical signal level, tower capacity, and then (seperately) estimated theoretical speeds by tonight,

Lots of research to do. Hope they dont throttle me while I do it hahahaha

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[smokiedabong]

I gotta stop using metaphors. Clearly it's beyond done of the users here...

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Why do you feel the need to use metaphors ? It's not like people don't know what an iPhone or a Droid are and what are capable of . You may ass well say the iPhone is fur and Android leather , but what's the purpose in doing so ?

Haha now you want me to explain the purpose of a metaphor? I don't think I have time to teach you the nuances of the english language. Maybe someone else will volunteer?

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Don't bother , I know what a metaphor is and I can create one in 5 different languages , that includes English . My point is that knowing what a metaphor is doesn't automatically qualifies you to make a one . Your example , in my view , is a pretty bad one .

 

[PalmerCurling]

People keep saying those affected deserve it- I've used 2 TERABYTES in 6 months on my phone, with minimal video and no tethering at all.

HOW is that possible?!? Do you stream pandora all day, and I mean literally 24x7 even when you are sleeping? Do your widgets and mail poll every 2 seconds or something?

Mind boggling. You use more data in 1 day then I do in 6 months.

I think its mostly cause I got and spent the first 3 weeks of ownership at my (at the time) girlfriends house, had no wifi, and had to set up and download a ton of apps. My social apps auto ping every half hour, and I manually refresh twitter occasionally. I don't stream Pandora more then twice a month off wifi, and I use wifi whenever possible. I'm wondering if the 2TB thing included wifi...

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[PalmerCurling]

To be clear the 2tb has been over the course of slightly under 5 months.

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[kodiak799]

I think its mostly cause I got and spent the first 3 weeks of ownership at my (at the time) girlfriends house, had no wifi, and had to set up and download a ton of apps. My social apps auto ping every half hour, and I manually refresh twitter occasionally. I don't stream Pandora more then twice a month off wifi, and I use wifi whenever possible. I'm wondering if the 2TB thing included wifi...

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Still blows my mind. You'd have to fill your 16gig SD card almost daily to rack-up 2TB in 5 months. There's something seriously wrong here.

 

[nerdslogic]

I use a lot of data and would be very upset if they slowed it down on me. I use WIFI as much as possible but I am on the road a lot and have to use 3g

 

[UNC]

Using 2tb in 6 months is pretty much impossible unless you're tethering... tethering is a violation of ToS.

Everyone who is tethering without paying VZW $20 is STEALING bandwidth from us users who do not tether!! I paid for my service too, and its ridiculous that it gets bogged down because some of you people won't pay verizon their damn money and tether for free. I wish the tether app didn't exist seriously.

Thank you dude who says he used 2tb. Users like you are the reason they have to have caps and throttling!

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[kodiak799]

Using 2tb in 6 months is pretty much impossible unless you're tethering... tethering is a violation of ToS.

Even then, it takes, what 20 minutes to d/l 100megs? So 1 gig would take @ 200 minutes (yes, I'm rounding)? 16 gigs a day would take like 50 hours?!?

 

[kptphalkon]

:/ post a screenshot of your data usage, i want proof that you've actually used 2 terabytes, thats 2,048 gigabytes, in 6 months.

2048/6 = 341 and some change a month.

Thats over 10 GB a day. You're either blatantly lying, an idiot, or a combination of both.

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[OneTenderRebel]

:/ post a screenshot of your data usage, i want proof that you've actually used 2 terabytes, thats 2,048 gigabytes, in 6 months.

2048/6 = 341 and some change a month.

Thats over 10 GB a day. You're either blatantly lying, an idiot, or a combination of both.

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There is absolutely no need for the insults. How does that help in any way??? If you are going to post something like that find another forum to do so.

 

[czerdrill]

wait what? because i'm not in denial about how important the iphone is for verizon this makes me a fanboy? if i wanted an iphone i'd have one. do you assume that i use my droid daily and then lay in bed with my picture of an iphone and talk to it before going to sleep, promising never to let anyone know how much i love it? that's weird. we've been going back and forth for a couple of months now about this and i think it's your blind awe and fascination with android that's disturbing.

LOL, I'm not in denial, I just know the sales data does not support the awe you hold for the IPhone. IPhone smartphone market share is 25-30%. That is a market leader, for an individual unit, but not dominant. You can talk about 70 android handsets or whatever, it's cuts both ways - there's not a dominant Android phone because no brand has established itself and it's remarkably easy to switch brands. It's just a different animal. It's not like people are paying $250,000 for a BMW instead of a Ferrari. The IPhone and a variety of Android phones are far closer substitutes than you will acknowledge, the global market data bears that out.

I know your views and expectations of the market are not significantly different from mine, but you make comparisons and choose superlatives that don't reflect that at all and don't fit the data (if English is your 2nd language, then I owe you an apology). Please, the IPhone is not the Ferrari here, again you putting the IPhone up on the pedestal of Ferrari is just not reality, BMW vs Mercedes is a better comparison, or if you prefer Ferrari vs Lamborghini. IOS is not perfect, either, it has its share of complaints, but you continue to act like there is no valid reason to choose Android over IOS, all else equal, even though you yourself did precisely that.

I mean, a few months ago you were making statements how VZW would never promote LTE alongside IPhone and how they were going to drop everything for at least a few months with the IPhone. And yet they are running commercials emphasizing "the BEST line-up of SMARTPHONES" and, lo an behold, here comes the LTE Thunderbolt barely 5-10 days after the IPhone launch.

We'll watch this play out on VZW. I already know the result because it's played out globally. You act like AT&T US is the only carrier that's had the IPhone.

Try reading the data. Over 40% of all new smartphones are Android, IOS has been flat between 25-30%. Symbian and BB are declining significantly - where's that going, pretty obvious it's Android. And about 300,000 Android activations a day? No, those aren't all new devices, but the upgrade rate is much, much lower than IOS because most Android upgrades have only started to turn in the last few months, and most are probably only entering the 2nd half of a 2-yr contract.

I argue with data. I base my opinions on data. You make statements like "IPhone is the Ferrari and the Android/BMW isn't close". You make statements like "IPhone will outsell all Android handsets COMBINED on VZW" and no analyst believes that. In fact, you've admitted you didn't consider AT&T converts a wash, yet here you are again making that same superlative statement that distorts reality.

You also don't appear to have a clue what you are talking about with LTE. You act like it's not widespread, then ignore the potential for Android but make a claim like IPhone will dominate when it's LTE. Here's a fact: those 38 cities account for 1/3 the US population and probably over 1/3 the smartphone population. That's already a significant market, and growing quickly with 2 dozen more cities.

People are considering paying retail for LTE phones. That's a huge seller. LTE is the VZW flagship, not the IPhone. Ask yourself one simple question: which would be the bigger failure for VZW:
1) The VZW IPhone doesn't work and won't work.
2) LTE doesn't work and won't work.
I'll give you the answer in case you can't see it through the apple-colored glasses. 1) = embarassment, a hit to the stock price 2) = bankruptcy

more data: Andoid was 53% of US smartphone sales in Q4, IOS slips 4 points to 19%
NPD: Android soars to 53% of US smartphone sales in Q4 - Android News

First about LTE and iphone marketing. I think i had about a 3+ page argument with some guy months ago where i had to constantly say "if", "if", "if"...now here it goes again...what i said was "if the iphone comes out first, they will advertise it first and put LTE on the backburner"...LTE was announced first, the iphone wasn't...i never said they will never be advertised together, i never said that the iphone will overtake lte and lte will be forgotten because of the iphone and i never said "iphone is bigger than lte"...you know what you said though? that they won't even need to advertise the iphone because it'll sell itself. ha...k. if english is my second language, it's gotta be at least your 5th because the amount of times you misconstrue what i say is unbelievable. Ask me again in 3 months if i said iphone is better than LTE or they wouldn't be advertised together and i'll rehash this same thing again for you since you need to be reminded periodically about what was said...

second, about your "data". again, how do you ignore what's really happening? here's what you said: "everyone who wants an iphone already got one"...here's the reality: "everyone on at&t who wants an iphone already got one". iphone has been flat for that reason. it's going to grow again. i'm not saying it's going to skyrocket like you seem to think android will, but at the same time it's not going to stay flat once it goes to verizon. again...talk to me when the numbers are in. your suggesting, foolishly, that opening up the best selling smartphone in history to 100 million new users will have no impact on android. or that every one in the country who wants an iphone has left verizon because the iphone is bigger than verizon? i mean...really? seriously? how do you not laugh at yourself as you type this stuff...?

third, global sales. The surge of android sales happened mostly in the US market, not in Burkina Faso or some other obscure country. Another case of you looking at what furthers your point and not the whole picture (kinda like how the iphone on verizon is old tech, but the d1 is relevant tech...lol wut?). Yes, android accelerated. The question is why and how. Why? Because it's a great OS, and a great alternative to ios. How? Because it's available on 70+ devices across several carriers in several countries at cheap prices and its US share rose ridiculously because of Verizon. Not because it is the superOS to defeat all OS's. Now let's look at the other side (something you don't do). ios remains neck and neck with android in US market share (the market that is responsible for androids accelerated growth) even though it's available on just one US carrier, as opposed to what is it 5 or 6 carriers for android, costs more than most android phones, and only has one variety. stop ignoring that fact. again, it's a case of my five dealerships in five cities outselling your one dealership in a small city. it's a given...not a shock. and it's going to plateau, dude. you know that, i know that. market share is going to remain more or less the same, with each side trading a minimal lead back and forth (in the US). android is not going to have 50% US market share by 2012...you know that

and finally, LTE ios vs LTE android. stop reading into stuff that i didn't even say. when did i downplay the potential for LTE android? never did....what i did say is that an LTE iphone will outsell every LTE android device. again...because every iphone iteration has outsold every individual android phone several times over. i have a strong feeling when an LTE iphone comes out that apple is not going to be shocked at their inability to push units. You can add something else to your calendar: Talk to me when an LTE iphone comes out and we see it's performance against LTE android devices.

like i said there is no fair comparison between ios and android. far too many differences between the sales models, the market availability and the variations in available products.

the closest thing you can get to fair is ios on verizon vs android on verizon (and that's still skewed for the reasons listed above). talk to me when those numbers are in. i hope you wont backtrack when it becomes clear that there is/was a pent up demand for the iphone on verizon, and that "everyone who wants an iphone" hasn't actually gotten one yet.

 

[nerdslogic]

I use a TON of data....I promise. I download a lot of apps....have something like 240 ATM....DL torrents...usually movies in the GB's....and music. So I don't know about 10GB a day....but I know VZW doesn't really like me.

 

[czerdrill]

I think its mostly cause I got and spent the first 3 weeks of ownership at my (at the time) girlfriends house, had no wifi, and had to set up and download a ton of apps. My social apps auto ping every half hour, and I manually refresh twitter occasionally. I don't stream Pandora more then twice a month off wifi, and I use wifi whenever possible. I'm wondering if the 2TB thing included wifi...

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Still blows my mind. You'd have to fill your 16gig SD card almost daily to rack-up 2TB in 5 months. There's something seriously wrong here.

yeah i really dont see how that's possible especially if hes not tethering...makes zero sense. 10GB+ a day is impossible.