Droid 2 global d2g GINGERBREAD DEFINITELY COMING!

[gsdreams]

If you are trying to user it with any sim other than the one included then you can't expect much.

I do know of people whi have taken the phone out of the country without the issues you mention. Then again they were on vacation and using the included vodafone sim card.



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[jb0072011]

Did some of you travel outside the US with your "Global" phone? Well, if you do, you'll realize that this phone is not really global. As it currently is, with the baseband firmware that comes on the stock rom, the phone has terrible reception issues when in GSM mode with a foreign sim card. The phone was advertised as "global" and it came with a Vodaphone sim card already inserted in case you wanted to travel to Europe. Well, 50% of the time phone calls go directly to voicemail because there was no signal at that moment. So, how will you call this? A scam? Yes, a scam is what Motorola/Verizon did to us. They sold us a phone that was supposedly "global" when it is not. The phone is simply not reliable as a phone outside the US. This problem has been reported from many countries.
So, are they fixing this GSM reception issue? Is this the reason of them taking so long to release the new update? Maybe... I hope this is what is taking them so long, and I hope they better fix it.

I hope they are fixing the baseband for GB. If they still have the same problems with GSM I would suggest maybe we all file a class action law suit against Verizon/Moto or demand they refund our money. They clearly have advertised this as a global phone that works on CDMA and GSM while in fact the GSM performance is terrible. I have read that the radio in the Verizon Iphone 4 is the same as this but they have disabled the GSM part. I hope this is a software issue not hardware

 

[hgrimberg]

Did some of you travel outside the US with your "Global" phone? Well, if you do, you'll realize that this phone is not really global. As it currently is, with the baseband firmware that comes on the stock rom, the phone has terrible reception issues when in GSM mode with a foreign sim card. The phone was advertised as "global" and it came with a Vodaphone sim card already inserted in case you wanted to travel to Europe. Well, 50% of the time phone calls go directly to voicemail because there was no signal at that moment. So, how will you call this? A scam? Yes, a scam is what Motorola/Verizon did to us. They sold us a phone that was supposedly "global" when it is not. The phone is simply not reliable as a phone outside the US. This problem has been reported from many countries.
So, are they fixing this GSM reception issue? Is this the reason of them taking so long to release the new update? Maybe... I hope this is what is taking them so long, and I hope they better fix it.

I hope they are fixing the baseband for GB. If they still have the same problems with GSM I would suggest maybe we all file a class action law suit against Verizon/Moto or demand they refund our money. They clearly have advertised this as a global phone that works on CDMA and GSM while in fact the GSM performance is terrible. I have read that the radio in the Verizon Iphone 4 is the same as this but they have disabled the GSM part. I hope this is a software issue not hardware

I think you are totally right. We all should file a law suit against Verizon/Motorola in case the Gingerbread update does not include a radio firmware fix. What they did was clearly a fraud. We will give them the benefit of the doubt up until this coming update and then if nothing is fixed, we should organize ourselves and sign a claim all together. We should start contacting a lawyer...

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[ObieNobie]

Will having my phone rooted not let me get gingerbread? I used z4root or something like that so if I unroot would it let me get it?

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[gsdreams]

If people will tell me that they actually have a problem with GSM using the included SIM then I will listen. The original post said "foriegn sims" and what I have read is all about using it with sims other than the included one.

Which means there is no grounds for a lawsuit because niether motorola nor verizon support or guarantee it will work with anything but verizons equipment

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[hgrimberg]

If people will tell me that they actually have a problem with GSM using the included SIM then I will listen. The original post said "foriegn sims" and what I have read is all about using it with sims other than the included one.

Which means there is no grounds for a lawsuit because niether motorola nor verizon support or guarantee it will work with anything but verizons equipment

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Well, the phone was advertised as "global", so apart from the fact that a vodafone sim card came included in the phone that was just to cover a trip to Europe but nowhere else. So they said it was global, then it should be global. In the Verizon website it says it works "in more than 205 countries". Then this was a fraud.


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[gsdreams]

You must not pay attention much to what agreements verizon/vodafone has with other countries.

Those 205 countries don't require anything but the phone and the included sim.

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[jb0072011]

Well did Verizon/Moto say anywhere that the GSM only works with the included SIM? Not that I have ever seen. In fact I bought the phone from a Verizon store and used it on their network. Then I got transferred for work for a year to Nam. They gave me the unlock code and said then it would be no problem using it here with a local SIM. I am not an attorney but this really seems like fraud/misadvertising as they never said it only would work with the included Vodaphone SIM card. Also as has been pointed out it is advertised as a global phone capable of working in 205 countries. Now the word "working" might be a sticky legal point. Yes I can make and receive calls although I drop calls like flies when I go into a elevator and sometimes a building. Now the umts/gsm is the real problem. I have a signal between 79-100dB and I am across the street from a cell tower! Many times I have no data connection at all, sometimes it will say E or H and when I try to connect to the market or internet it gives me the dreaded no data connection error message. I have tried all the various tricks like keeping the battery setting at high performance etc but it makes no difference. Now I might say this has to do with Vinaphone but I had a Milestone 1 before this with the same SIM and had none of these problems. I sold that phone much to my regret. Clearly the GSM radio is not operating at a level that the average person would deem acceptable. Either fix it or refund our money. PERIOD

 

[gsdreams]

Verizon sells the phone for there network.

Aside from that, there is the problem of being "too close" to a cell tower. I deal with that on CDMA in the US.

What I was pointing out is that a lawsuit would be impractical and unwinnable.

Let alone the fact that anyone still under contract would be sent straight to arbitration first.



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[nerdslogic]

I can't wait to get GB on the D2G. When I had it I was running the leaks. Then my wife got it as a replacement from Asurion and is keeping it stock. I think GB would make it a lot of fun for her.

 

[freightdog]

If people will tell me that they actually have a problem with GSM using the included SIM then I will listen. The original post said "foriegn sims" and what I have read is all about using it with sims other than the included one.

Which means there is no grounds for a lawsuit because niether motorola nor verizon support or guarantee it will work with anything but verizons equipment

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Here I am, I have problems with the vodaphone sim card, using the global email feature from verizon. I have a weak signal in places where I used to have a superb signal with a blackberry storm, running the same sim card. If I am traveling by car overseas, I lose this crappy signal frequently, and have large areas of no coverage, prompting the int'l roaming warning message incessantly. These large areas of no signal still had a decent signal with my BB. In some places I have a few bars, but the data connection will not establish itself. There was another thread discussing this, I am not the only one. If GB does not fix this, I am calling and notifying them I want the global data plan back on my BB (which they will claim I can't do, since I am grandfathered on the 'other' smartphone plan, but can't switch off it to get unlimited global BIS). If they won't let me reactivate my BB with the plan, I am paying my ETF and they can stuff the whole thing, I've had enough of not being able to use my "global" phone overseas in major cities, and I refuse to give up my data plan to go back to BB and have to pay $21 / MB.

 

[ExodusC]

The current Fisson ROM release is holding me over until Gingerbread.

I still might return the phone for another Droid 2 Global, since it has a lot of problems (a ton of dust under the screen, terrible, terrible battery life even with virtually every tweak and the extended battery, etc).

I love the phone itself, though I really hope Gingerbread will be out sometime soon.

 

[jb0072011]

OK the fact is that the radio on GSM sucks. Using an Iphone SIM card does help lock GSM signals but you still get weak signal strength. You can say that it is because it is using a foreign SIM, but I at first used the Vodaphone SIM and had the same issues and ridiculous charges. Again Verizon support told me I could use a foreign SIM no problem. I bought this phone because Verizon usually provides good service and support, unlike Motorola. I am hopeful that they will urge Moto to fix the GSM and other issues (like email synch, reboot with Google maps) in the GB update. If not then this phone outside the USA is basically a phone and not much else on a reliable basis and I will not purchase any other device from Verizon when I return to the states. Lucky for me my company pays for the service but I did have to buy the phone

 

[gsdreams]

Now you are talking about a serious problem and I have no idea if it will be corrected in GB, but I doubt it is a hardware problem. The D2G uses the same radio that is in the Atrix and other Motorola GSM devices, so it is most likely a software issue.

I would definitely recommend contacting Motorola and seeing what there stance on the issue is, and possibly posting on their support forums.

If it is made well known to them there is a problem then there is a better chance of it getting fixed.

And unfortunately somelike like this, which could be a problem at the Kernel level of the OS, could potentially delay GB for the D2G a long time.

 

[jb0072011]

It is posted on their forums and they are certainly aware of it but in their typical fashion very quiet (as in no answers by the moto forum mods) https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47030?tstart=0 among other posts. Personally I would be happy with just a baseband update to fix these problems soon and I really dont care about GB