Finally! Someone from the media is talking about......

[km75]

Then pay for more data. You are doing that because you can, not because you have to. I don't typically stream music on my device, I play songs from playlists on my SD so my data usage for that is 0. I mean, how in the world did you ever survive before mobile data? Did you just never go to the gym because you couldn't listen to music while working out?

There's nothing unfair, evil or wrong with VZW's usage and pricing. People just feel entitled to pay whatever they want for as much as they want. You'll be waiting a LONG time for VZW to be "fair" or make you "happy".

You obviously aren't paying attention to who is making what comments. I am the original poster and i clearly stated I have unlimited data. Secondly I can very easily say to you how did you survive before they had mobile phones. That point is mute. You don't need a cell phone they still have pay phones out there. Yet you do and you use it accordingly. You don't make sense telling someone what they should or should not be doing with their phones. We bought them. Not you. So you have no idea what were the underlying factors that made individuals choose a smartphone. Im sure Verizon loves people that think like and agree with you. To each his own. BTW if you bothered to actually pay attention to my comments you would know that my main gripe is that the cell phone companies don't/won't give a specific number in regards to what is considered high usage. My main issue isnt the throttling its the chance of being throttled because I dont know what amount of data usage constitutes high usage.

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[hollowhammer]

I used 42 gig last month and as far as I could tell was never throttled. Ran 7 to 10 mbps avg.(and I run speed tests daily) Oh and no i usually dont use that much data per month I avgerage 9 to 12 gig.(digital download of swtor really chewed up the data lol)

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[yakitori]

I disagree with the argument that I must use alternatives to Pandora radio or any app like it. It doesn't use THAT much data. It is a data hog compared to other apps. No I shouldn't have to put mp3s or listen to regular radio because my cell provider wants to throttle me...I'd still use it even if I was being throttled. I don't like mainstream pop or rock....or any other crap playing on broadcast stations. And I'm not going to buy hundreds of dollars worth of mp3s and hear the same music over and over again.

Yeah...if I was tiered and reaching my limit... I would have to.


On another note...if you are working out in a gym for 2-2 &1/2 hours...you need to do some research on working out. You're wasting your efforts or talking to much. My workouts are 45 minutes. In and out. Pick up the intensity. Nobody is gaining anything from a 2hour workout

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[km75]

I disagree with the argument that I must use alternatives to Pandora radio or any app like it. It doesn't use THAT much data. It is a data hog compared to other apps. No I shouldn't have to put mp3s or listen to regular radio because my cell provider wants to throttle me...I'd still use it even if I was being throttled. I don't like mainstream pop or rock....or any other crap playing on broadcast stations. And I'm not going to buy hundreds of dollars worth of mp3s and hear the same music over and over again.

Yeah...if I was tiered and reaching my limit... I would have to.


On another note...if you are working out in a gym for 2-2 &1/2 hours...you need to do some research on working out. You're wasting your efforts or talking to much. My workouts are 45 minutes. In and out. Pick up the intensity. Nobody is gaining anything from a 2hour work
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Im glad your workout allows you to be in and out in 45 minutes. Would love to know what kind of workout you do and what kind of shape you are in. As im sure i need pointers from you. But let's try and stick to the subject at hand.

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[diablo81588]

I used 42 gig last month and as far as I could tell was never throttled. Ran 7 to 10 mbps avg.(and I run speed tests daily) Oh and no i usually dont use that much data per month I avgerage 9 to 12 gig.(digital download of swtor really chewed up the data lol)

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4g is not throttled, only 3g.

And for the OP who is complaining about not knowing what is considered the top 5%, it is clearly stayed on verizons website that 2gigs is a heavy user.

http://support.verizonwireless.com/information/data_disclosure.html

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[km75]

4g is not throttled, only 3g.

And for the OP who is complaining about not knowing what is considered the top 5%, it is clearly stayed on verizons website that 2gigs is a heavy user.

http://support.verizonwireless.com/information/data_disclosure.html

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This is exactly what I was looking for. Didnt believe for one second that 2 gigs was considered heavy usage. Well this is proof to the contrary. Once they start doing this with 4g phones and I actually experience their "network optimization" as they call it. Not throttling. I will go back to using a simple phone. And yes the time is coming.

Per Verizon.....

" Does Network Optimization apply to customers using 4G services? No. We reserve the right to include 4G LTE users later, but right now this only applies to the top 5% of users with unlimited data plans using 3G devices. If you have a 4G LTE device you will not be affected at this time."
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[yakitori]

Im glad your workout allows you to be in and out in 45 minutes. Would love to know what kind of workout you do and what kind of shape you are in. As im sure i need pointers from you. But let's try and stick to the subject at hand.

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I lift weights. 4 day split. Cardio on off day. All muscle groups 1x a week. Your physique comes 90% from diet. Whole foods ...lotta water. Cut carbs in cutting phase. I'm 217 about 8-10% body fat right now. Cutting down to 185-190 over next few months. Check bodybuilding.com super site for regimens .

You're body starts producing cortisol after about 40 minutes.

Sorry for ot.



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[km75]

4g is not throttled, only 3g.

And for the OP who is complaining about not knowing what is considered the top 5%, it is clearly stayed on verizons website that 2gigs is a heavy user.



And according to the article that you posted Verizon doesn't actually throttle anybody. 3g or 4g users. Just wanted put that out there. They specifically state that they don't throttle but instead use network optimization.

"Is this the same as throttling? No, this is not throttling.

How is this different than throttling? The difference between our Network Optimization practices and throttling is network intelligence. With throttling, your wireless data speed is reduced for your entire cycle, 100% of the time, no matter where you are. Network Optimization is based on the theory that all customers should have the best network possible, and if you’re not causing congestion for others, even if you are using a high amount of data, your connection speed should be as good as possible. So, if you’re in the top 5% of data users, your speed is reduced only when you are connected to a congested cell site. Once you are no longer connected to a congested site, your speed will return to normal. This could mean a matter of seconds or hours, depending on your location and time of day."
http://support.verizonwireless.com/information/data_disclosure.html

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[ChevyNexus]

Part of growing up is learning how to save $$$ and for you saying I'm stealing. How am I stealing if I pay for what I use.

So you payed for the Chamber?



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[vatothe0]

Paying to watch wrestling... Lol

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[ChevyNexus]

Paying to watch wrestling... Lol

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Ahh spoken like a true booger eating, mouth breathing, neck bearded degenerate.

Anyway ,I'm done with this thread. I see that certain people in here are the worst kind of self righteous,world owes me everything type of people I can't stand.

Peace.

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[bhp117]

So you payed for the Chamber?



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No I don't have to pay since there's free streaming

 

[kodiak799]

You obviously aren't paying attention to who is making what comments. I am the original poster and i clearly stated I have unlimited data. Secondly I can very easily say to you how did you survive before they had mobile phones. That point is mute. You don't need a cell phone they still have pay phones out there. Yet you do and you use it accordingly. You don't make sense telling someone what they should or should not be doing with their phones. We bought them. Not you. So you have no idea what were the underlying factors that made individuals choose a smartphone. Im sure Verizon loves people that think like and agree with you. To each his own. BTW if you bothered to actually pay attention to my comments you would know that my main gripe is that the cell phone companies don't/won't give a specific number in regards to what is considered high usage. My main issue isnt the throttling its the chance of being throttled because I dont know what amount of data usage constitutes high usage.

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No, I was paying attention. This all centers around rumors of VZW ending this or throttling that. It's been going on for well over a year now. And it's always the same "I paid for data I can use it however I want". It usually is the people with unlimited data starting these threads who have an irrational fear and apparent inability to cope with a few minutes or few hours without access to streaming music or video.

And the difference between me and you is if I felt the price was unfair or I was being ripped off, I'd just ditch the phone (because, as you said, I don't need it) or find a different plan. I wouldn't start thread after thread whining about it like someone clueless how the world works.

The reason 97% of people don't go over 2 gigs is because there is absolutely no need for it. You can try, and you can...you can listen to 2 hours of Pandora every day, but you wouldn't miss it for more than 30 seconds if you had to go back to the old days of listening to mp3's stored on your ipod/phone.

 

[ambrown]

I've been saying this for some time now(really since there advent of the $30 unlimited plan), that data plans are extremely overpriced. I mean how much does it really cost to offer a simple data plan for there masses? But no, carriers are dead set on pricing their plans the way they always have, perhaps even regressing, to keep charging this fee and that fee. Essentially nickle and diming us to death with all these fees!

Okay so I'll say that, sure, I'm paying for a fairly premium service of having internet access everywhere. My main gripe comes from the $30 PER phone, especially for those of us on family plans; then if I have a smartphone and my wife has a smartphone then thats $60 per month ON TOP OF MY EXISTING PLAN. Forget even allowing my kids to have smartphones on my plan, that could easily have me ending up paying $120 on top of my existing plan. Gratefully Verizon is moving to a family data plan model, but it sure has taken them long enough to get here.

The plans are still outrageously priced though. I mean I thought that was part of the whole reason of moving to an LTE system since it makes it so data and voice are over the same network rather than having voice and data separate. When I first heard about LTE I thought that it would mean cheaper plans for smartphone users but boy did I overestimate carriers ability to be as draconian in their billing practices as possible.

We all should care because even the lowliest smartphone plan is incredibly overpriced and you, my friend, are paying more than you should have to for using your smartphone.

One other thing I have also always disagreed with cell carriers is that they require a data plan. Can't there be an option to get voice only, and if you don't pay for the data plan you can still use Wifi? Maybe it's just the cheapskate in me but that should be an industry standard.

Update: modified for spelling errors and clarity.

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[xeene]

Jailed for using 80gb? So what should we do to those that use 600gb every month? You realize that data usages will only keep going higher for everyone including you? Soon 80gb will be considered the norm just like years ago 2gb was considered a lot. Without pressure and demand from consumers innovation will be at standstill. So those that use a lot of data are actually doing you a favor.

We are keeping you below 5%. You are welcome.