My company is about to switch our 80 lines or so over to Verizon. We innocently asked our sales rep today when the Tbold would be out and he said the rumors are it will be out before the Iphone.
There is that other post in this thread that talks about the MAP coming out on 1/21 and there is history of phones coming out 6 days after MAP comes out. That is consistent with what our rep said.
In the end, nobody seems to know for sure. Nobody that posts on forums, that is.
I imagine Apple has a one month window in which the iPhone4 will be the only new top-end device. So either 2 weeks before, or after the iPhone is my guess. So either this week or a month from now.
Did you watch any of the football yesterday? iPhone ads everywhere, not even a mention of HTC Thunderbolt... if they release it with no ads it will flop when compared to the iPhone.