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Is your tbolt rebooting several times a day?

Called Verizon today about reboot issues...they are sending me another phone. Didn't start rebooting until after the update. The weird thing I noticed was when I did a hard reset but downloaded programs stayed on the phone. The programs weren't on the SD card so I don't see how they would stay unless the hard reset isn't working as it should.

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Yeah, I thought it took you back to "out-of-the-box" status. maybe it didn't work properly or maybe they've changed the process to allow your apps and data to be kept. Not sure.
 
Called Verizon today about reboot issues...they are sending me another phone. Didn't start rebooting until after the update. The weird thing I noticed was when I did a hard reset but downloaded programs stayed on the phone. The programs weren't on the SD card so I don't see how they would stay unless the hard reset isn't working as it should.

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Yeah, I thought it took you back to "out-of-the-box" status. maybe it didn't work properly or maybe they've changed the process to allow your apps and data to be kept. Not sure.

Thats what I thought too, anytime I did it to my X it erased everything. This one left all my internet history and alot of stuff that should have been gone. Hell it even brought my background back of my wife. Didnt seem like they cleaned much even though the tier II tech said everything would be wiped and to back up what I wanted to keep. I tried it both ways, same result. I hit the home button and it asked if I wanted to make htc sense my home launcher or launcher pro. I would imagine that it would have at least over wrote apps. I mean what if one specific app was causing a bunch of trouble and a full factory reset doesnt remove it? Maybe they should use clockworkmod as their bootloader
 
The user 9-10 times is the problem, not the phone. My TBOLT is great now and before. Didn't do update

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This is just a stupid statement....again you are in denial.

The reboots and data connectivity issues are the users fault?

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I'm rebooting several times a day. Often during calls. Freakin annoying. I did the update the day after it came out. I still love this phone over my blackberry but I sure wish they would fix these problems
 
Or people like yourself who are adamant about how bad this phone sucks when the problem is the ota update and not the phone. You come off as the kind of person that will not be satisfied even when the fix update is pushed. Impatient...

Rooting did help by the way. Also helped with battery life as well

ridin the lightning

You probably don't realize that very few ppl root, and we all know updates take forever. It's not like they're going to update next week. (although that would be awesome)

I understand the frustration. You shouldn't have to root to make the phone work. And saying it's the ota and not the phone is a silly distinction. Who cares? The phone doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

I think there's a lot of denial going on...

The phone seems to be a disaster to me...
 
I love android, especially my TB for many reasons...free music,etc....but I give credit where credit is do. Apple's iPhone has their OS polished to the max.
 
I love android, especially my TB for many reasons...free music,etc....but I give credit where credit is do. Apple's iPhone has their OS polished to the max.

It's easier to do when ur system is not open and features are pretty minimal

ridin the lightning
 
Or people like yourself who are adamant about how bad this phone sucks when the problem is the ota update and not the phone. You come off as the kind of person that will not be satisfied even when the fix update is pushed. Impatient...

Rooting did help by the way. Also helped with battery life as well

ridin the lightning

You probably don't realize that very few ppl root, and we all know updates take forever. It's not like they're going to update next week. (although that would be awesome)

I understand the frustration. You shouldn't have to root to make the phone work. And saying it's the ota and not the phone is a silly distinction. Who cares? The phone doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

I think there's a lot of denial going on...

The phone seems to be a disaster to me...

I understand the frustration too and that users shouldn't have to root. Roms and development also come with a phone depending on how open it is. The tbolt is pretty wide open. The processor and hardware are great...as is the software. That makes a phone great.

Battery life is poor. People go into this knowing it. I knew that my phone will drain before I bought it. It would be ignorant to gripe about it with prior knowledge.

The ota doesn't cause reboots for everyone. I wouldn't go as far as to say this phone is a disaster. It's not a problem that can't be solved with an ota. I bet it comes sooner than s typical update given the complaints. If not...it'd be because Verizon doesn't listen to their customers.

All these issues people have with the phone doesn't make it s bad phone. I respectfully disagree with u saying an ota that cause some reboots is not the phone being a silly distinction.

It's like having a nice computer running a software that has issues temporarily and once fixed..the computer works great. It would be asanine to to blame a computer for a temporary bug in software...and say this computer is a disaster.

It would be a disaster for those who don't know much about their device enough to correct and alleviate some gripes with a little research. These folks typically don't know how to even access some menu options on Android. Then again...there is also the simple...closed...ios that these people would be happier with.

ridin the lightning
 
Or people like yourself who are adamant about how bad this phone sucks when the problem is the ota update and not the phone. You come off as the kind of person that will not be satisfied even when the fix update is pushed. Impatient...

Rooting did help by the way. Also helped with battery life as well

ridin the lightning

You probably don't realize that very few ppl root, and we all know updates take forever. It's not like they're going to update next week. (although that would be awesome)

I understand the frustration. You shouldn't have to root to make the phone work. And saying it's the ota and not the phone is a silly distinction. Who cares? The phone doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

I think there's a lot of denial going on...

The phone seems to be a disaster to me...

I understand the frustration too and that users shouldn't have to root. Roms and development also come with a phone depending on how open it is. The tbolt is pretty wide open. The processor and hardware are great...as is the software. That makes a phone great.

Battery life is poor. People go into this knowing it. I knew that my phone will drain before I bought it. It would be ignorant to gripe about it with prior knowledge.

The ota doesn't cause reboots for everyone. I wouldn't go as far as to say this phone is a disaster. It's not a problem that can't be solved with an ota. I bet it comes sooner than s typical update given the complaints. If not...it'd be because Verizon doesn't listen to their customers.

All these issues people have with the phone doesn't make it s bad phone. I respectfully disagree with u saying an ota that cause some reboots is not the phone being a silly distinction.

It's like having a nice computer running a software that has issues temporarily and once fixed..the computer works great. It would be asanine to to blame a computer for a temporary bug in software.

ridin the lightning

no you're right absolutely, if its a software issue, yes it is not the phone's fault. but my point is that that is irrelevant, because the product is not working the way its supposed to. you're not going to appease the people who don't root by saying "the phone is fine its the software" and then having them wait for the update that doesn't come for weeks, maybe months. to those people, and those people are the huge majority, having bad software is the same thing as having bad hardware because at the end of the day the phone doesn't work. they are not going to say "oh it's the software?? whew...i thought it was the hardware...now i feel better about my purchase!"

the distinction exists of course, but the distinction is irrelevant...
 
You probably don't realize that very few ppl root, and we all know updates take forever. It's not like they're going to update next week. (although that would be awesome)

I understand the frustration. You shouldn't have to root to make the phone work. And saying it's the ota and not the phone is a silly distinction. Who cares? The phone doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

I think there's a lot of denial going on...

The phone seems to be a disaster to me...

I understand the frustration too and that users shouldn't have to root. Roms and development also come with a phone depending on how open it is. The tbolt is pretty wide open. The processor and hardware are great...as is the software. That makes a phone great.

Battery life is poor. People go into this knowing it. I knew that my phone will drain before I bought it. It would be ignorant to gripe about it with prior knowledge.

The ota doesn't cause reboots for everyone. I wouldn't go as far as to say this phone is a disaster. It's not a problem that can't be solved with an ota. I bet it comes sooner than s typical update given the complaints. If not...it'd be because Verizon doesn't listen to their customers.

All these issues people have with the phone doesn't make it s bad phone. I respectfully disagree with u saying an ota that cause some reboots is not the phone being a silly distinction.

It's like having a nice computer running a software that has issues temporarily and once fixed..the computer works great. It would be asanine to to blame a computer for a temporary bug in software.

ridin the lightning

no you're right absolutely, if its a software issue, yes it is not the phone's fault. but my point is that that is irrelevant, because the product is not working the way its supposed to. you're not going to appease the people who don't root by saying "the phone is fine its the software" and then having them wait for the update that doesn't come for weeks, maybe months. to those people, and those people are the huge majority, having bad software is the same thing as having bad hardware because at the end of the day the phone doesn't work. they are not going to say "oh it's the software?? whew...i thought it was the hardware...now i feel better about my purchase!"

the distinction exists of course, but the distinction is irrelevant...

Oh..I agree. It's poor business practice...and poor quality testing. Walking into a store to upgrade knowing this issue exist right now isn't going to sell phones...and its not going to make those happy with their purchase. At the same time the phone is awesome for a lot of people. But for the uninformed consumer...it will likely give them a bad taste in their mouth till the fix comes.

ridin the lightning
 
Ive got two on my act one does it since the update the otherone doesnt. It is a software issue. It is being addressed and fixed with next update.

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I did the factory reset several days ago as suggested by Verizon's tech, of which I posted on this forum to the fact. I had no reboots for two days, then all of the sudden it started happening again on day three. I am not rooted. I am now convinced that It's just a bad software writing and that's it. I had no reboots before the update. Verizon says they are working on a fix, let's hope they are.

HOUSTON THUNDERBOLT
 
I thought I was clear of the rebooting fray until this past 5 days.
My Bolt has been randomly rebooting two to four times daily, and when it reboots it takes a good 4 - 5 minutes. Just sits on the clouds seemingly forever. UGH!

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