~OFFICIAL: FRG01B FroYo Issues/Solutions Thread~

[hookbill]

I have to say the new update 2.2 sucks.
Issues:
Cant turn off blue tooth notifier
Add Twitter app / which blows
Killed all Task Managers with 2.2 / means amazon mp3 is always running and others
Adobe Flash is slow not won't it

There is probably more.

Task managers are pretty much useless anyway. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-applications/65483-task-killers-answer-google-developers.html

That's the only really valid thing I see that you have to complain about. I'm not having problems with Flash and it will get better when the next push comes out.

Here is a document that explains what 2.2 did do on the positive side for your Droid. If you're not experiencing the noticeable difference in speed then do a factory data reset out of your privacy section, get rid of your task killers and virus protection, and you will see a difference.

 

[vannope]

2.2 Crash then Fixed

My Droid got simi-trashed by the 2.2 upgrade. It didn't brick but kept freezing up. I went to a corporate store, but the best they could do was to order me a replacement to be shipped.

After a lot of frustration I decided to root my phone and flash a new ROM. I'm new to doing this stuff on a droid and was rather nervous, so naturally I hit the blogs and forums to fund out how to root and put a new ROM in.

After looking around for the better part of Friday and Saturday I decided to register here.

This forum and all the folks here were of tremendous help. Please accept my thanks for all the timbre and effort you all put in helping rookies like me.

When I finally got the courage I rooted the phone then installed ROM Manager, backed it up then put Bugless in. Naturally, it took me about a million tries to get it all right and then to get the phone set up the way I like it, but it finally got done, and it's been stable now since yesterday afternoon.

Again... thanks for all the posts, advice and instructions from everyboday

 

[Sweettooth]

Having been around this forum for a while now, I ought to know better than to continue a Task Killer debate but I still just don't get how people can discourage their use when the performance speaks for itself.

Unless I have some sort of alien device, the menus will lag and apps open slower than desired...what do I do when this happens? Check TasKiller. What do I see? A lot of apps not being killed by Android and instead partying like it's 1999. What do I do? Murder them all Tony Montana style. The result? Well imagine a New York City subway devoid of its morning congestion...

How can this possibly be contested by some overly published article? I tend to believe what I see, and less of what I read or am told. This seems like a fairly logical attitude.

 

[m@tt]

I have to say the new update 2.2 sucks.
Issues:
Cant turn off blue tooth notifier
Add Twitter app / which blows
Killed all Task Managers with 2.2 / means amazon mp3 is always running and others
Adobe Flash is slow not won't it

There is probably more.

Task managers are pretty much useless anyway. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-applications/65483-task-killers-answer-google-developers.html

That's the only really valid thing I see that you have to complain about. I'm not having problems with Flash and it will get better when the next push comes out.

Here is a document that explains what 2.2 did do on the positive side for your Droid. If you're not experiencing the noticeable difference in speed then do a factory data reset out of your privacy section, get rid of your task killers and virus protection, and you will see a difference.

Thanks for the link but why in the world do I need Amazon mp3, the weather channel, twitter ext? When you do I reset have to restore all your settings to every app. (Not Fun)

 

[hookbill]

I have to say the new update 2.2 sucks.
Issues:
Cant turn off blue tooth notifier
Add Twitter app / which blows
Killed all Task Managers with 2.2 / means amazon mp3 is always running and others
Adobe Flash is slow not won't it

There is probably more.

Task managers are pretty much useless anyway. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-applications/65483-task-killers-answer-google-developers.html

That's the only really valid thing I see that you have to complain about. I'm not having problems with Flash and it will get better when the next push comes out.

Here is a document that explains what 2.2 did do on the positive side for your Droid. If you're not experiencing the noticeable difference in speed then do a factory data reset out of your privacy section, get rid of your task killers and virus protection, and you will see a difference.

Thanks for the link but why in the world do I need Amazon mp3, the weather channel, twitter ext? When you do I reset have to restore all your settings to every app. (Not Fun)

To get rid of those you would have to root. The point of the link was to show you what you were getting with Froyo. Everyone is going to push some things on your phone you don't want, that's just business. The good news is if you really don't want them you can do something about it with the Droid.

If you don't want to root then that's just something you have to live with. My other point regarding task managers showing you that they have activity in the background is this is not a resource hog. Just because you see them running in the background doesn't mean they are at full power, they are simply running. Check your battery usage and you won't even see them listed on there.

 

[nlinecomputers]

Seems pretty normal.

Display 39%
Phone Idle 17%
Cell Standby 14%
Wifi 11%
Android System 9%
Rest are all under 5%.

This to me looks like it did under 2.1. So I'm stumped as to the cause.

 

[LifeIsABeach]

There are not a lot of huge differences in 2.2 The market change is that you can now set an app to auto-update and if you have more than one app needing an update there is now an Update All button. The main difference you will notice in 2.2 is 5 home screens instead of 3.

There is no difference between installing the update manually and OTA. People with the OTA update are experiencing slowness as well. If you just downloaded the update it takes up to a day to index and will be slow until then. If you have had the update for more than a day uninstall any anti-virus or task killers you may have running. I also suggest doing a battery pull after any major update.

 

[BayouFlyFisher]

Having been around this forum for a while now, I ought to know better than to continue a Task Killer debate but I still just don't get how people can discourage their use when the performance speaks for itself.

Unless I have some sort of alien device, the menus will lag and apps open slower than desired...what do I do when this happens? Check TasKiller. What do I see? A lot of apps not being killed by Android and instead partying like it's 1999. What do I do? Murder them all Tony Montana style. The result? Well imagine a New York City subway devoid of its morning congestion...

How can this possibly be contested by some overly published article? I tend to believe what I see, and less of what I read or am told. This seems like a fairly logical attitude.

I love this little saying: Just because Lunch comes everyday after Breakfast does not mean that Breakfast causes Lunch.

In your case killing the apps may speed up your phone, but it is only because you have some flawed apps. Find the flawed apps and get rid of them. Others don't see the benefit of running a task killer because they do not have the flawed app(s) that you do. A task killer will not and did not speed up my phone, just as some people suggest rebooting everyday to speed up your phone. None of that works on my phone because I know the cause is bad apps and I search them down and get rid of them.

Edit: Oh wait, I thought of another one - using a Task Killer to speed up your phone is like putting a bandaid on a flea bite without getting rid of the fleas.

 

[Snoking]

Or it is like swatting flies. They fly off and soon return. Killing apps that the phone just reopens is not good. This will happen over and over dragging the performance down. Better to have something idling in the background verses openning and closing repeatly.

If your phone is having a lot of issues after the OTA or manual 45 MB update, you can manually update it again with the 78 MB file and see if it runs cleaner. You do not loose anything when doing the 78 MB manual update which installs over 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2. I had the OTA update hang and finally pushed the power button after 30 minutes and it finished the install, but did not seem right. So last night I did a manual installed of the 78 MB file. Watching today to see if it runs better.

For those that might question this, yes I was on FRG01B OTA and I watched the 78 MB file unpackage on the screen and install over the existing FRG01B. I rebooted at the end and I am on the same FRG01B, but hopefully with a cleaner install. All the steps went the same as if I was coming from 2.1.

Chris

 

[mtdawg169]

Has anyone had issues with youtube sine updating to 2.2? I was having major issues with the Flask .apk installed. I uninstalled the.apk and now youtube is running betetr, but I am still getting more errors since updating. I very rarely had an issue with youtube before the update.

 

[Sweettooth]

I love this little saying: Just because Lunch comes everyday after Breakfast does not mean that Breakfast causes Lunch.

In your case killing the apps may speed up your phone, but it is only because you have some flawed apps. Find the flawed apps and get rid of them. Others don't see the benefit of running a task killer because they do not have the flawed app(s) that you do. A task killer will not and did not speed up my phone, just as some people suggest rebooting everyday to speed up your phone. None of that works on my phone because I know the cause is bad apps and I search them down and get rid of them.

Edit: Oh wait, I thought of another one - using a Task Killer to speed up your phone is like putting a bandaid on a flea bite without getting rid of the fleas.

Let me clarify that I'm justing the app TasKiller, not just A task killer. I cannot vouch for what features the other ones provide. Also, the supposedly flawed apps you mention would be a little difficult for me to remove given they are the apps and processes that are on the phone by default. I'd assume the next idea is a factory reset; a solution I'd like to steer from as it seems awfully Blackberry-esque and I'd think Android is better than that.

Also given TasKiller is basically just a task manager, except with the ability to auto kill instead of manual, why would Android have it's own built-in task manager if it were never necessary to kill an app? Not to mention the TasKiller process itself can be killed so there goes the "Task Killers consume memory themselves." lecture.

Lastly, in Windows, if I pull up Mozilla Firefox, it begins consuming memory. As it remains open, it consumes more and more memory, and this becomes noticeable. However in Windows I can simply close Firefox, reopen it and start fresh. On Android, when you exit the Browser, it never ends the process, meaning the resources it has consumed running are being wasted now that you're not using it. What is my solution in this scenario?

 

[BayouFlyFisher]

I love this little saying: Just because Lunch comes everyday after Breakfast does not mean that Breakfast causes Lunch.

In your case killing the apps may speed up your phone, but it is only because you have some flawed apps. Find the flawed apps and get rid of them. Others don't see the benefit of running a task killer because they do not have the flawed app(s) that you do. A task killer will not and did not speed up my phone, just as some people suggest rebooting everyday to speed up your phone. None of that works on my phone because I know the cause is bad apps and I search them down and get rid of them.

Edit: Oh wait, I thought of another one - using a Task Killer to speed up your phone is like putting a bandaid on a flea bite without getting rid of the fleas.

Let me clarify that I'm justing the app TasKiller, not just A task killer. I cannot vouch for what features the other ones provide. Also, the supposedly flawed apps you mention would be a little difficult for me to remove given they are the apps and processes that are on the phone by default. I'd assume the next idea is a factory reset; a solution I'd like to steer from as it seems awfully Blackberry-esque and I'd think Android is better than that.

Also given TasKiller is basically just a task manager, except with the ability to auto kill instead of manual, why would Android have it's own built-in task manager if it were never necessary to kill an app? Not to mention the TasKiller process itself can be killed so there goes the "Task Killers consume memory themselves." lecture.

The built in task manager kills apps when more memory is needed to run something you've requested. It is a waste of your time and system resources to kill apps that are going to be restarted by the OS. They are not "running" in the same sense that programs are running in windows. They are parked, drawing no power and using no cpu cycles, in memory waiting to be used.

Lastly, in Windows, if I pull up Mozilla Firefox, it begins consuming memory. As it remains open, it consumes more and more memory, and this becomes noticeable. However in Windows I can simply close Firefox, reopen it and start fresh. On Android, when you exit the Browser, it never ends the process, meaning the resources it has consumed running are being wasted now that you're not using it. What is my solution in this scenario?

As stated above concerning the difference between Android and Windows is that in Android a program in memory is not using power or cpu cycles.

The programs that are flawed and causing your system to slow down are not the apps supplied by Google, even the crapware that bloat the phone with. The apps that are slowing down your phone are from the market of other source and they are poorly written. Since you are unwilling to try and find those - I'm through. Enjoy your task killer. You might want to check out some of the anti-virus programs out there too.

 

[Sweettooth]

The programs that are flawed and causing your system to slow down are not the apps supplied by Google, even the crapware that bloat the phone with. The apps that are slowing down your phone are from the market of other source and they are poorly written. Since you are unwilling to try and find those - I'm through. Enjoy your task killer. You might want to check out some of the anti-virus programs out there too.

I'll acknowledge my own stubbornness here; I've been using TasKiller since I got the phone in December. Just for the sake of argument I believe I'll uninstall it sometime soon and let the phone run free for a month or so given the OS is supposedly so ingeniously engineered that it does not require a method to end running tasks.

You misinterpreted my point about "flawed apps." What I meant is that when reviewing the running applications in TasKiller, 99% of the time, EVERY one of them is a default app or process, not one from the market, and as we all know you cannot remove default apps unless rooted, so if they are the problem, then Android is the problem.

And I know the antivirus comment was a clever stab, so I'll not dignify it further.

 

[BayouFlyFisher]

And I know the antivirus comment was a clever stab, so I'll not dignify it further.

Yeah, sorry about that. I was/am upset over other issues. Lost my sense of humor for a few minutes. The following is not sarcastic or anything other than sincere: Just enjoy your phone and if it takes a task killer to do that, then by all means use one. Again, not being snarky, being sincere (so this is what sincere feels like - weird).

Have a good day.

 

[jmed99]

Laggy and Sluggish Droid with 2.2.....Please Help!

Every since I manually put 2.2 on my Droid 1 it has been real sluggish and is laggy. When I press an app on my wallpaper it takes like 5 seconds to open. Swiping my finger only works half the time on the home page.

Is there something I can do? I thought 2.2 was going to make everything blazing fast. Should I do a factory reset? Would that help? Is there anything else I can do?

Thanks for your time!