Rooting the Droid X?

[Epell]

huh, weird because HTC is no better. The only reason the Nexus one and the G1 were so hackable is because thats how google wanted it. If HTC had there way every one of there phones would be like the Incredible.

Well, the bootloader won't be encrypted at least.
I think popular phones will get a root access while devs are interested.
Cracking bootloader probably won't happen for maybe years.

 

[The White Weapon]

My question about this is how the iphone is always able to be jailbroken within a few weeks (at most) of a software update, but this thing is not. I mean, they lock them down pretty tight (i was also pretty confident that they encrypted the bootloader as well, but I might be mistaken on that) and they always seem to find the hole in the wall. Can anyone help clarify this for me, if you would be so kind?

 

[Epell]

My question about this is how the iphone is always able to be jailbroken within a few weeks (at most) of a software update, but this thing is not. I mean, they lock them down pretty tight (i was also pretty confident that they encrypted the bootloader as well, but I might be mistaken on that) and they always seem to find the hole in the wall. Can anyone help clarify this for me, if you would be so kind?

1. Giant dev interest.
2. I don't think jailbreaking involves bootloader, just root access. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never heard of people loading custom ROMs of iOS on iPhones.

 

[daggah]

You can count me among those who won't buy a Droid X now. The reason I finally rooted and installed custom ROMs on my Droid was the ridiculous 2.1 update wait. I remember that all too well to be willing to lock myself in to the same frustration with 2.2 on a Droid X. No custom bootloader = no deal.

Of course, I won't be upgrading my phone until November/December anyway as I'm currently deployed, so this is probably a moot point...there will probably be something better on the market by then.

I only hope it's not locked down.

 

[ecstatic waffle]

Droid X actually self-destructs if you try to mod it

Overkill, much?

 

[The White Weapon]

My question about this is how the iphone is always able to be jailbroken within a few weeks (at most) of a software update, but this thing is not. I mean, they lock them down pretty tight (i was also pretty confident that they encrypted the bootloader as well, but I might be mistaken on that) and they always seem to find the hole in the wall. Can anyone help clarify this for me, if you would be so kind?

1. Giant dev interest.
2. I don't think jailbreaking involves bootloader, just root access. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never heard of people loading custom ROMs of iOS on iPhones.

I mean, one of the most common ways to get under the devices skin is to use a custom firmware (.ipsw file) and I was under the impression that even the I phone needed it's own form of root in order to upgrade the base band (how I got mms to work 3 months earlier that most I phone users) our down grade it (sometimes necessary for the unlocking process).

Sorry for any typos. Im using an eris at the moment and don't feel like spell checking.

 

[Epell]

Droid X actually self-destructs if you try to mod it

Overkill, much?

lol, talk about ridiculous.
Is there anybody who still thinks that DX's bootloader is going to be cracked?
I personally think there's less than 10% chance that it will be done in a year.

 

[Sp4zZ]

Saw this on twitter:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone Boy Genius Report

 

[Darkseider]

Saw this on twitter:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone Boy Genius Report

Great! Speculation! Now that every homegrown hacker see's this they are gonna try it themselves after reading a how to guide and we will then see the new headline:

Reality Check Redux: Modding the Droid X Turns it into a Paperweight.

First and foremost let the guys that have a ton of experience try their hand at it first. Otherwise the overzealous may just end up with a $570 brick.

 

[Haiasi]

Saw this on twitter:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone Boy Genius Report

Great! Speculation! Now that every homegrown hacker see's this they are gonna try it themselves after reading a how to guide and we will then see the new headline:

Reality Check Redux: Modding the Droid X Turns it into a Paperweight.

First and foremost let the guys that have a ton of experience try their hand at it first. Otherwise the overzealous may just end up with a $570 brick.

First time droid user, got the moto droid a week ago and thought it was too slow so I got lucky and got the Droid X this morning.

So far, and I know it isn't much...

1.) I was able to figure out the button sequence on the phone to get into the USB mount for RSDLite.

To do this, turn off phone, hold all 4 hard keys (menu, home, back, search) and power until the screen comes on. Let go and you'll be able able to pick it up in RSDLite.


2.) Got into the phone's stock recovery, used for installing a rom after SPRecovery or ClockworkMod Recovery has been installed.

To get to this screen, turn phone off. Hold the menu and home button while holding the power button. When the screen comes back on, let go of only the power button, keeping the menu and home button held down until the Recovery screen shows up. Press the search key to display the menu.

Menu Controls:

volume + and -: navigate through menu

menu button: select a menu item (the camera button is no longer used on the droid x for selecting a menu)

power button: return to previous menu


I am not any well known android dev nor do I know a lot of the system now, but judging by what I'm seeing, I'm pretty sure the eFuse story will be confirmed as a hoax.

I will be trying the first test this weekend, installing SPRecovery onto the phone with RSDLite. If that installs without any problems, I'm pretty sure that will confirm that motorola and vzw is just trying to scare customers into not rooting, because a lot of us want froyo early or want to wifi tether for free. Correct me if I am mistaken on anything here. So basically if I screw up my phone, I'll be screwed. But It's worth the risk to me to find out how much the droid x actually "does"

Will post this weekend with any updates.

BTW, sorry for a lack of video to show the access to the RSD mounting or stock recovery. The only camera I have is the phone's.

 

[Epell]

If that installs without any problems, I'm pretty sure that will confirm that motorola and vzw is just trying to scare customers into not rooting, because a lot of us want froyo early or want to wifi tether for free. Correct me if I am mistaken on anything here. So basically if I screw up my phone, I'll be screwed. But It's worth the risk to me to find out how much the droid x actually "does"

Will post this weekend with any updates.

BTW, sorry for a lack of video to show the access to the RSD mounting or stock recovery. The only camera I have is the phone's.

Stephen Bird, well known dev, said that it's locked and encrypted.
I'm pretty sure he's right, though he did test it on demo models. Maybe consumer models have unsigned bootloader? (I doubt it though)

On other note, I think if moto really wants to keep the bootloaders signed, they should make it a practice to release the encryption code after 6 months or so.

 

[Haiasi]

If that installs without any problems, I'm pretty sure that will confirm that motorola and vzw is just trying to scare customers into not rooting, because a lot of us want froyo early or want to wifi tether for free. Correct me if I am mistaken on anything here. So basically if I screw up my phone, I'll be screwed. But It's worth the risk to me to find out how much the droid x actually "does"

Will post this weekend with any updates.

BTW, sorry for a lack of video to show the access to the RSD mounting or stock recovery. The only camera I have is the phone's.

Stephen Bird, well known dev, said that it's locked and encrypted.
I'm pretty sure he's right, though he did test it on demo models. Maybe consumer models have unsigned bootloader? (I doubt it though)

It's possible that the bootloader is unsigned, but there's no real way of knowing without actually attempting it right?

Also, would it matter if I used the same sprecovery sbf file that's been used for rooting the droid and incredible, or do you think it will require a new sbf file to handle this hardware?

 

[koush]

If that installs without any problems, I'm pretty sure that will confirm that motorola and vzw is just trying to scare customers into not rooting, because a lot of us want froyo early or want to wifi tether for free. Correct me if I am mistaken on anything here. So basically if I screw up my phone, I'll be screwed. But It's worth the risk to me to find out how much the droid x actually "does"

Will post this weekend with any updates.

BTW, sorry for a lack of video to show the access to the RSD mounting or stock recovery. The only camera I have is the phone's.

Stephen Bird, well known dev, said that it's locked and encrypted.
I'm pretty sure he's right, though he did test it on demo models. Maybe consumer models have unsigned bootloader? (I doubt it though)

It's possible that the bootloader is unsigned, but there's no real way of knowing without actually attempting it right?

Also, would it matter if I used the same sprecovery sbf file that's been used for rooting the droid and incredible, or do you think it will require a new sbf file to handle this hardware?

You'll need to make a new sbf that uses the droid x kernel.

 

[Epell]

It's possible that the bootloader is unsigned, but there's no real way of knowing without actually attempting it right?

Also, would it matter if I used the same sprecovery sbf file that's been used for rooting the droid and incredible, or do you think it will require a new sbf file to handle this hardware?

You should really get in one of the dev irc channel for this kind of things.
try xda

 

[gabemtz83]

This is standard on all droid phones nothing new

Saw this on twitter:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone:

Reality Check: Modding the DROID X may not lead to a bricked phone Boy Genius Report

Great! Speculation! Now that every homegrown hacker see's this they are gonna try it themselves after reading a how to guide and we will then see the new headline:

Reality Check Redux: Modding the Droid X Turns it into a Paperweight.

First and foremost let the guys that have a ton of experience try their hand at it first. Otherwise the overzealous may just end up with a $570 brick.

First time droid user, got the moto droid a week ago and thought it was too slow so I got lucky and got the Droid X this morning.

So far, and I know it isn't much...

1.) I was able to figure out the button sequence on the phone to get into the USB mount for RSDLite.

To do this, turn off phone, hold all 4 hard keys (menu, home, back, search) and power until the screen comes on. Let go and you'll be able able to pick it up in RSDLite.


2.) Got into the phone's stock recovery, used for installing a rom after SPRecovery or ClockworkMod Recovery has been installed.

To get to this screen, turn phone off. Hold the menu and home button while holding the power button. When the screen comes back on, let go of only the power button, keeping the menu and home button held down until the Recovery screen shows up. Press the search key to display the menu.

Menu Controls:

volume + and -: navigate through menu

menu button: select a menu item (the camera button is no longer used on the droid x for selecting a menu)

power button: return to previous menu


I am not any well known android dev nor do I know a lot of the system now, but judging by what I'm seeing, I'm pretty sure the eFuse story will be confirmed as a hoax.

I will be trying the first test this weekend, installing SPRecovery onto the phone with RSDLite. If that installs without any problems, I'm pretty sure that will confirm that motorola and vzw is just trying to scare customers into not rooting, because a lot of us want froyo early or want to wifi tether for free. Correct me if I am mistaken on anything here. So basically if I screw up my phone, I'll be screwed. But It's worth the risk to me to find out how much the droid x actually "does"

Will post this weekend with any updates.

BTW, sorry for a lack of video to show the access to the RSD mounting or stock recovery. The only camera I have is the phone's.

This has nothing to do with the loading of custom roms. The bootloader has to be encrypted and the rom be signed. Efuse is to prevent installation of custom roms. The idea of cracking the encryption is what will lead to custom roms being able to be installed. Rooting should not be terribly difficult....