Stock battery here too and mine stops at about 4185 or there about. Never over 4200. I'm not sure about the temp while charging at rest. It will get plenty warm while in use and charging.
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Seidio 2600mAh extended battery
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Stock battery here too and mine stops at about 4185 or there about. Never over 4200. I'm not sure about the temp while charging at rest. It will get plenty warm while in use and charging.
windstrings
Active Member
That reading may change at a given temp as the battery matures and ages.. not sure.
Anyway..... just heard from Matt and there should be an update release of battery left within the next two days in the market.
The calibration issue of erasing stored info is fixed .... I guess he discovered it was an android issue and has wired around it. Also there may be readings taken of the mv when deeply discharged, immediately after fully charged and when disconnecting from charger. He has ran the new edition four days now and its very accurate on his stock battery and its gone without incident so thats encouraging.
Too bad he doesn't have an extended battery to play with.
Anyway..... just heard from Matt and there should be an update release of battery left within the next two days in the market.
The calibration issue of erasing stored info is fixed .... I guess he discovered it was an android issue and has wired around it. Also there may be readings taken of the mv when deeply discharged, immediately after fully charged and when disconnecting from charger. He has ran the new edition four days now and its very accurate on his stock battery and its gone without incident so thats encouraging.
Too bad he doesn't have an extended battery to play with.
Rollingbones
Member
That's good. My OEM has never read over 4195, but seems to have lots-o-life and werks well. It also drops to abot 4145 when first unplugged. I'm still waiting for my Hong Kong 1600 Special!!! Should be here this week.
seido battery behavior
Just got the extended battery. It showed up about 70 percent charged, according to battery left. Then I topped it off overnight (5 hrs), then determined to drain it dead per instructions here. It lasted 24 hours of hard use, about half of which showed zero charge.
When it finally died, I put it into the official Seido charger. It registered full charge after appx. 3 hrs. with voltage around 3800. However, I let it continue to charge and guess what? The battery meter dropped back to 5 percent charged after another hour or so, without a reboot or any use. It is now up to 60 percent charged, voltage 4000+. So it looks like about 8 hours total to a full charge.
Interesting stuff. I like the additional weight. Much more useful in a bar fight than a stock droid, though it's not quite the lead pipe as my old moto 720 with extended battery.
Just got the extended battery. It showed up about 70 percent charged, according to battery left. Then I topped it off overnight (5 hrs), then determined to drain it dead per instructions here. It lasted 24 hours of hard use, about half of which showed zero charge.
When it finally died, I put it into the official Seido charger. It registered full charge after appx. 3 hrs. with voltage around 3800. However, I let it continue to charge and guess what? The battery meter dropped back to 5 percent charged after another hour or so, without a reboot or any use. It is now up to 60 percent charged, voltage 4000+. So it looks like about 8 hours total to a full charge.
Interesting stuff. I like the additional weight. Much more useful in a bar fight than a stock droid, though it's not quite the lead pipe as my old moto 720 with extended battery.
Need more power!!!
I agree. Battery life is terrible, but the size parameters are pretty important to me!
if it fits in their case for the droid, perhaps i will be interested.
if it does not, most likely no.
I agree. Battery life is terrible, but the size parameters are pretty important to me!
I haven't posted in here for a while, but after about a month of using this battery, here are my thoughts.
- The battery does not live up to the expectations in terms of battery life. During the week, when I don't use the phone that much, I can get about 48 hours of usage in mostly standby/downtime. On the weekends however, I've yet to make it a full day without completely draining the battery. On average, I'll have about 3 1/2 hours of phone display time before it drains (which counts as about 60% of my overall usage...standy, etc. being the next highest). Granted, that's quite a bit of usage, but it's not even close to double the kind of usage that I would get out of the stock battery. On a typical heavy use weekend day, I'm getting 8-9 hours out of the battery. For the record, I have GPS, Auto-Sync, and Wireless all turned off (and are never used, except for GPS on rare occasions), along with auto-brightness. I do have my phone OC'ed at between 800-1000mhz depending on the day however.
- When pulling it off of the charger, I'm at about 4180mv. After extremely light usage in the morning, I'm down to 3950 or so. Just by sitting on my desk and not being used, I'll drop below 3800 rather quickly. On workdays that I happen to use Radiotime or Droidlive for about two hours, I'll drop under 3700 by the end of the day (usually about 10 hours after being pulled off the charger).
- Seidio may have a good reputation, but I sure have seen a lot of people who have "duds". Their return policy is a massive pain in the butt, and after mutliple emails and correspondence regarding either a complete return or a replacement for the Extended Battery I have, I've yet to get someone who can help me. They continuosly say that I need to return it to the place I bought it, which was on amazon. That's fine for a return, but for a manufacture replacement, I should be able to go directly to the company.
- I don't know what was changed with the last Battery Left update, but other than using it for the mv reading, I don't get anything close to accurate readings anymore, even after multiple calibrations. When I pull it off the charger, it will estimate my time as less than four hours. I'm usually showing that my phone should be dead within 3-4 hours of usage every day.
Overall, I think that I probably am getting a little bit of extra time out of the Seidio Battery...but it is worlds away from the length of time I should expect with something that it almost double the size of the stock battery. I'm strongly considering a switch back to the OEM (I have two of them), and just replacing the battery when it dies. It's not something I prefer to do, as I've always been a fan of extended life batteries in my phones...but the frustration level at this point is starting to not be worth the effort. A battery shouldn't be something that I have to focus on all day long...and with this one, I do.
- The battery does not live up to the expectations in terms of battery life. During the week, when I don't use the phone that much, I can get about 48 hours of usage in mostly standby/downtime. On the weekends however, I've yet to make it a full day without completely draining the battery. On average, I'll have about 3 1/2 hours of phone display time before it drains (which counts as about 60% of my overall usage...standy, etc. being the next highest). Granted, that's quite a bit of usage, but it's not even close to double the kind of usage that I would get out of the stock battery. On a typical heavy use weekend day, I'm getting 8-9 hours out of the battery. For the record, I have GPS, Auto-Sync, and Wireless all turned off (and are never used, except for GPS on rare occasions), along with auto-brightness. I do have my phone OC'ed at between 800-1000mhz depending on the day however.
- When pulling it off of the charger, I'm at about 4180mv. After extremely light usage in the morning, I'm down to 3950 or so. Just by sitting on my desk and not being used, I'll drop below 3800 rather quickly. On workdays that I happen to use Radiotime or Droidlive for about two hours, I'll drop under 3700 by the end of the day (usually about 10 hours after being pulled off the charger).
- Seidio may have a good reputation, but I sure have seen a lot of people who have "duds". Their return policy is a massive pain in the butt, and after mutliple emails and correspondence regarding either a complete return or a replacement for the Extended Battery I have, I've yet to get someone who can help me. They continuosly say that I need to return it to the place I bought it, which was on amazon. That's fine for a return, but for a manufacture replacement, I should be able to go directly to the company.
- I don't know what was changed with the last Battery Left update, but other than using it for the mv reading, I don't get anything close to accurate readings anymore, even after multiple calibrations. When I pull it off the charger, it will estimate my time as less than four hours. I'm usually showing that my phone should be dead within 3-4 hours of usage every day.
Overall, I think that I probably am getting a little bit of extra time out of the Seidio Battery...but it is worlds away from the length of time I should expect with something that it almost double the size of the stock battery. I'm strongly considering a switch back to the OEM (I have two of them), and just replacing the battery when it dies. It's not something I prefer to do, as I've always been a fan of extended life batteries in my phones...but the frustration level at this point is starting to not be worth the effort. A battery shouldn't be something that I have to focus on all day long...and with this one, I do.
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Rollingbones
Member
I received my Hong Kong Andida 1600 special yesterday (eBay special for about $8). I charged it overnoight and will run it down and recharge over the next couple of days. Initially, it shows the potential for extra time so it looks like B.L. will work with it, but it all remains to be seen. I'll report back in a couple pof days.
Hi all,
Sorry I've been quiet round here - been bashing my head against a brick wall trying to fix some DB corruption problems. Anyway, v 2.1.1 of Battery Left is on the market. I've fixed the problem where it keeps recalibrating. i've also added better code to read the low battery levels which should help with Seidio calibration - remember to let your phone run completely down so it turns itself off.
I've also added mV estimates to the widget text - once it's got a reading at 100% (right off the charger) and 0% (when your phone turns off) it should give you a good idea of battery % based on the mV readings.
Enjoy!
Sorry I've been quiet round here - been bashing my head against a brick wall trying to fix some DB corruption problems. Anyway, v 2.1.1 of Battery Left is on the market. I've fixed the problem where it keeps recalibrating. i've also added better code to read the low battery levels which should help with Seidio calibration - remember to let your phone run completely down so it turns itself off.
I've also added mV estimates to the widget text - once it's got a reading at 100% (right off the charger) and 0% (when your phone turns off) it should give you a good idea of battery % based on the mV readings.
Enjoy!
Hi all,
Sorry I've been quiet round here - been bashing my head against a brick wall trying to fix some DB corruption problems. Anyway, v 2.1.1 of Battery Left is on the market. I've fixed the problem where it keeps recalibrating. i've also added better code to read the low battery levels which should help with Seidio calibration - remember to let your phone run completely down so it turns itself off.
I've also added mV estimates to the widget text - once it's got a reading at 100% (right off the charger) and 0% (when your phone turns off) it should give you a good idea of battery % based on the mV readings.
Enjoy!
Thanks Matt. Updating as I type! The readings based off of Mv sounds interesting to me since thats how i've been judging my battery level so far...
I haven't posted in here for a while, but after about a month of using this battery, here are my thoughts.
- The battery does not live up to the expectations in terms of battery life. During the week, when I don't use the phone that much, I can get about 48 hours of usage in mostly standby/downtime. On the weekends however, I've yet to make it a full day without completely draining the battery. On average, I'll have about 3 1/2 hours of phone display time before it drains (which counts as about 60% of my overall usage...standy, etc. being the next highest). Granted, that's quite a bit of usage, but it's not even close to double the kind of usage that I would get out of the stock battery. On a typical heavy use weekend day, I'm getting 8-9 hours out of the battery. For the record, I have GPS, Auto-Sync, and Wireless all turned off (and are never used, except for GPS on rare occasions), along with auto-brightness. I do have my phone OC'ed at between 800-1000mhz depending on the day however.
- When pulling it off of the charger, I'm at about 4180mv. After extremely light usage in the morning, I'm down to 3950 or so. Just by sitting on my desk and not being used, I'll drop below 3800 rather quickly. On workdays that I happen to use Radiotime or Droidlive for about two hours, I'll drop under 3700 by the end of the day (usually about 10 hours after being pulled off the charger).
- Seidio may have a good reputation, but I sure have seen a lot of people who have "duds". Their return policy is a massive pain in the butt, and after mutliple emails and correspondence regarding either a complete return or a replacement for the Extended Battery I have, I've yet to get someone who can help me. They continuosly say that I need to return it to the place I bought it, which was on amazon. That's fine for a return, but for a manufacture replacement, I should be able to go directly to the company.
- I don't know what was changed with the last Battery Left update, but other than using it for the mv reading, I don't get anything close to accurate readings anymore, even after multiple calibrations. When I pull it off the charger, it will estimate my time as less than four hours. I'm usually showing that my phone should be dead within 3-4 hours of usage every day.
Overall, I think that I probably am getting a little bit of extra time out of the Seidio Battery...but it is worlds away from the length of time I should expect with something that it almost double the size of the stock battery. I'm strongly considering a switch back to the OEM (I have two of them), and just replacing the battery when it dies. It's not something I prefer to do, as I've always been a fan of extended life batteries in my phones...but the frustration level at this point is starting to not be worth the effort. A battery shouldn't be something that I have to focus on all day long...and with this one, I do.
do you leave it over clocked while charging at night?
I just figured out last night, that without thinking about it, I was leaving wifi and my nimbuzz messenger on at night, and while it got up to like 4250mv the first time I charged it, now it wasn't going above 4200, but last night I turned everything off, killed all the apps running, and in about 6hours on the charger(last night was a late night early morning) it was just above 4200, not much but was. I think the issue was, I was leaving power using things on and it wasn't able to fully charge.
all I know is I can kill the stock battery in a few hours at work on a slow day running everything like I do on this battery, and even thou I don't think its 100% right, it still makes it long enough till I'm home and ready to put it on charge. that's watching videos, with the screen brightness turned all the way up, cause they look better. gps on, wifi either on or searching, atleast 2 web pages open in tabs, messenger running in the background, or using it and texts a lot. pretty pretty much I'm on it 8 to 10hours a day straight. mostly with screen brightness set to auto and its bright outside and mostly inside, so its never all the way dim. I'm not really sure two stock batterys would handle that. so I'm like 99% happy.
I do wish they had the 3500ma full back one like for the other baby droid and the stock batter app could handle charging it right. but that's asking alot
windstrings
Active Member
Just got the extended battery. It showed up about 70 percent charged, according to battery left. Then I topped it off overnight (5 hrs), then determined to drain it dead per instructions here. It lasted 24 hours of hard use, about half of which showed zero charge.
When it finally died, I put it into the official Seido charger. It registered full charge after appx. 3 hrs. with voltage around 3800. However, I let it continue to charge and guess what? The battery meter dropped back to 5 percent charged after another hour or so, without a reboot or any use. It is now up to 60 percent charged, voltage 4000+. So it looks like about 8 hours total to a full charge.
Interesting stuff. I like the additional weight. Much more useful in a bar fight than a stock droid, though it's not quite the lead pipe as my old moto 720 with extended battery.
your still not fully charged till you are just shy of 4200mv
I haven't posted in here for a while, but after about a month of using this battery, here are my thoughts.
- The battery does not live up to the expectations in terms of battery life. During the week, when I don't use the phone that much, I can get about 48 hours of usage in mostly standby/downtime. On the weekends however, I've yet to make it a full day without completely draining the battery. On average, I'll have about 3 1/2 hours of phone display time before it drains (which counts as about 60% of my overall usage...standy, etc. being the next highest). Granted, that's quite a bit of usage, but it's not even close to double the kind of usage that I would get out of the stock battery. On a typical heavy use weekend day, I'm getting 8-9 hours out of the battery. For the record, I have GPS, Auto-Sync, and Wireless all turned off (and are never used, except for GPS on rare occasions), along with auto-brightness. I do have my phone OC'ed at between 800-1000mhz depending on the day however.
- When pulling it off of the charger, I'm at about 4180mv. After extremely light usage in the morning, I'm down to 3950 or so. Just by sitting on my desk and not being used, I'll drop below 3800 rather quickly. On workdays that I happen to use Radiotime or Droidlive for about two hours, I'll drop under 3700 by the end of the day (usually about 10 hours after being pulled off the charger).
- Seidio may have a good reputation, but I sure have seen a lot of people who have "duds". Their return policy is a massive pain in the butt, and after mutliple emails and correspondence regarding either a complete return or a replacement for the Extended Battery I have, I've yet to get someone who can help me. They continuosly say that I need to return it to the place I bought it, which was on amazon. That's fine for a return, but for a manufacture replacement, I should be able to go directly to the company.
- I don't know what was changed with the last Battery Left update, but other than using it for the mv reading, I don't get anything close to accurate readings anymore, even after multiple calibrations. When I pull it off the charger, it will estimate my time as less than four hours. I'm usually showing that my phone should be dead within 3-4 hours of usage every day.
Overall, I think that I probably am getting a little bit of extra time out of the Seidio Battery...but it is worlds away from the length of time I should expect with something that it almost double the size of the stock battery. I'm strongly considering a switch back to the OEM (I have two of them), and just replacing the battery when it dies. It's not something I prefer to do, as I've always been a fan of extended life batteries in my phones...but the frustration level at this point is starting to not be worth the effort. A battery shouldn't be something that I have to focus on all day long...and with this one, I do.
do you leave it over clocked while charging at night?
I just figured out last night, that without thinking about it, I was leaving wifi and my nimbuzz messenger on at night, and while it got up to like 4250mv the first time I charged it, now it wasn't going above 4200, but last night I turned everything off, killed all the apps running, and in about 6hours on the charger(last night was a late night early morning) it was just above 4200, not much but was. I think the issue was, I was leaving power using things on and it wasn't able to fully charge.
all I know is I can kill the stock battery in a few hours at work on a slow day running everything like I do on this battery, and even thou I don't think its 100% right, it still makes it long enough till I'm home and ready to put it on charge. that's watching videos, with the screen brightness turned all the way up, cause they look better. gps on, wifi either on or searching, atleast 2 web pages open in tabs, messenger running in the background, or using it and texts a lot. pretty pretty much I'm on it 8 to 10hours a day straight. mostly with screen brightness set to auto and its bright outside and mostly inside, so its never all the way dim. I'm not really sure two stock batterys would handle that. so I'm like 99% happy.
I do wish they had the 3500ma full back one like for the other baby droid and the stock batter app could handle charging it right. but that's asking alot
No, I have it underclocked when charging/idle (250mhz), so that shouldn't be the problem. When it's first taken off the charger, I have a full life...it's just that it doesn't last as long as I would expect it to.
In a typical day with what is heavy usage for me, this is what it looks like...
- 30 minutes of playing Homerun 3D Baseball
- 30 minutes of web browsing
- Downloading 60-70mb of data
- 3 hours of playing around with general apps
Display is always number one in battery usage, while cell standby is always number two. At best, I can use 4-4 1/2 hours with anything on the display before it dies on me. Now, that's actually pretty good time...just not what I SHOULD be given based on the size of the battery and in comparison to the stock battery.
- 30 minutes of playing Homerun 3D Baseball
- 30 minutes of web browsing
- Downloading 60-70mb of data
- 3 hours of playing around with general apps
Display is always number one in battery usage, while cell standby is always number two. At best, I can use 4-4 1/2 hours with anything on the display before it dies on me. Now, that's actually pretty good time...just not what I SHOULD be given based on the size of the battery and in comparison to the stock battery.
hmm that's weird, my screen is 55% right now, with voice calls being 18% and browser showing 10%.
cell stand by time is way down at 4%. my phone as been off chrarge for 9:42mins it says. wonder why your cell stant by is so high.
maybe you should toss the stock batter in to see how it lasts.
Battery Graph
I would HIGHLY recommend the program Android Battery Dog. It allows you to graph your battery stats like voltage, temp, etc. I actually can't find one other free program that can do that (let me know if you find something). It saves all this data to a CSV file. You can take this CSV file and open it in excel and see some interesting information about your battery.
Personally, I'm doing this in an effort to find an accurate formula for my batter left time.
I just downloaded the new Battery Left application and I can already tell you it's an imporvement... but by how much I can't say yet.
I would HIGHLY recommend the program Android Battery Dog. It allows you to graph your battery stats like voltage, temp, etc. I actually can't find one other free program that can do that (let me know if you find something). It saves all this data to a CSV file. You can take this CSV file and open it in excel and see some interesting information about your battery.
Personally, I'm doing this in an effort to find an accurate formula for my batter left time.
I just downloaded the new Battery Left application and I can already tell you it's an imporvement... but by how much I can't say yet.
Bxrider117
Member
Hi all,
Sorry I've been quiet round here - been bashing my head against a brick wall trying to fix some DB corruption problems. Anyway, v 2.1.1 of Battery Left is on the market. I've fixed the problem where it keeps recalibrating. i've also added better code to read the low battery levels which should help with Seidio calibration - remember to let your phone run completely down so it turns itself off.
I've also added mV estimates to the widget text - once it's got a reading at 100% (right off the charger) and 0% (when your phone turns off) it should give you a good idea of battery % based on the mV readings.
Enjoy!
So I have downloaded the updated app and I drained my Seidio battery till my phone shut off. So I have been charging my phone with my Seidio dock and the phone has been constantly rebooting and the battery is not charging. This has been goiing on for 2 hours. The screen says the battery is a 5% and just this second it read the battery was 100% charged and then the phone rebooted. I just took the phone of the dock and it shut off because of low battery. I am going to try my stock battery or uninstall the app to see what happens. One thing I did notice with the app was that my mV were constantly dropping instead of increasing. I went from being in the 3000s to mid 2800's.
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