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Task Killers... The Answer from Google & Developers.

i already stated since bb is back i am not using them but i "HAD" to with other roms. that is the only point i am trying to make but before i get in trouble i will unsubscribe this thread

-advance task manager
-advance task killer
-autostart
-setcpu

none of the above are installed with bb.5

obtw http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666

now unsubscribed
 
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i run system info widget so it right on front screen and btw nice score
but you could look under settings/applications/running services and look at the bottom
Sooo, what does this tell me there at the bottom?

Nevermind all that. Answer your voicemails and unsubscribe to this thread. ;)

Sent from my Droid

Oh my, never thought someone might call If you did actually call my phone…I did have some…this is sooo embarrassing…
In sporadic senior moments, forget the danged (way too many now days) password and nothing in the 4 it outta be works. Then to, if I see an mainland # don't recognize, tend to ignore/delete, usually some mkting carpola. If that was you, sincerely apologize.
(Seriously???!!! You could, and would call? Or, good lord... :icon_rolleyes:)

Should my feelings be hurt by never mind and unsubscribe?
Not your average user I expect, obsessed with eye candy and whatall the vast majority of forums threads discuss. I got this because it was a computer and small enough, a pocket phone as well. Ok, just for the pure fun of it now (OMG would it have been invaluable way back when) birthday present to myself, all the GPS doohickeys.
I dink with my computers and had my hand slapped with the 2 at work; this is a different kind. To a degree; I'm going to figure out what it can do and how to make it work best for me. Having been guilty of some; oh heck with it, ATK the wad and merrily bungle away again; this is very educational. Feel learned quite a bit with numerous source investigations instigated by what learned here.
Which in fact leads to the next related question; storage management, organizing, clutter and optimizing. And, off I go again in search of pieces of the puzzle to put together.

Darkseider;869040 * Avail: 40MB+136MB in 30 ….There ya go! [/QUOTE said:
Darksider: Ah HA, # of Processes! My, doesn't that make perfect sense. My brain wiring processes color codes and graphics better, what's the colors?
JK I'll figure it out.

Aloha nui loa.


And maybe, not quite like riding a bike, multi-quoting again as well.
 
Sooo, what does this tell me there at the bottom?

Nevermind all that. Answer your voicemails and unsubscribe to this thread. ;)

Sent from my Droid

Oh my, never thought someone might call If you did actually call my phone…I did have some…this is sooo embarrassing…
In sporadic senior moments, forget the danged (way too many now days) password and nothing in the 4 it outta be works. Then to, if I see an mainland # don't recognize, tend to ignore/delete, usually some mkting carpola. If that was you, sincerely apologize.
(Seriously???!!! You could, and would call? Or, good lord... :icon_rolleyes:)

Should my feelings be hurt by never mind and unsubscribe?
Not your average user I expect, obsessed with eye candy and whatall the vast majority of forums threads discuss. I got this because it was a computer and small enough, a pocket phone as well. Ok, just for the pure fun of it now (OMG would it have been invaluable way back when) birthday present to myself, all the GPS doohickeys.
I dink with my computers and had my hand slapped with the 2 at work; this is a different kind. To a degree; I'm going to figure out what it can do and how to make it work best for me. Having been guilty of some; oh heck with it, ATK the wad and merrily bungle away again; this is very educational. Feel learned quite a bit with numerous source investigations instigated by what learned here.
Which in fact leads to the next related question; storage management, organizing, clutter and optimizing. And, off I go again in search of pieces of the puzzle to put together.

Darkseider;869040 * Avail: 40MB+136MB in 30 ….There ya go! [/QUOTE said:
Darksider: Ah HA, # of Processes! My, doesn't that make perfect sense. My brain wiring processes color codes and graphics better, what's the colors?
JK I'll figure it out.

Aloha nui loa.


And maybe, not quite like riding a bike, multi-quoting again as well.

kthnxbai :)
 
i dont use any task-killing apps out there. my battery lasts about 1.5 days of heavy use. the phone manages memory and battery fine. with my first droid i owned, i used a task-killing app and my battery lifespan sucked and my phone always had issues going on. plus, over half the apps you just killed with be back on/open by android naturally.

Sorry this has to be my first post but I have the opposite results regarding task killers. Just quoting this one as I would love to be able to get 1.5 days of heavy use from my Droid Incredible.

From day one my battery was dying after about 1/2 - 3/4 of a days normal use. I don't game on it I use it for business. Calendar reminders, email, texting and phone pretty much sums up my usage.

After I installed a task killer, my battery lasted thru the day with no problem. I have the icon on my desktop and click on it after every call and every use of an application to close it out. AFTER my latest "update", I have a bunch of new applications and some of the same ones I deleted before that I now can no longer delete (like Skype and Amazon MP3 and Stocks) and they are constantly re-booting themselves. Every time I check my task manager there will be anywhere from 4-12 applications running. When before the update ,,the task killer worked fine.

I tried to read over all of the posts so please forgive me if this was already addressed. If it was I didn't see it.

Here's an example: I don't use Skype and as far as I can tell there is no other app that needs it to be running. So why does it constantly re-start itself over and over? If the Droid system is only running necessary apps, why is Skype needed?
 
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After I installed a task killer, my battery lasted thru the day with no problem. I have the icon on my desktop and click on it after every call and every use of an application to close it out. AFTER my latest "update", I have a bunch of new applications and some of the same ones I deleted before that I now can no longer delete (like Skype and Amazon MP3 and Stocks) and they are constantly re-booting themselves. Every time I check my task manager there will be anywhere from 4-12 applications running. When before the update ,,the task killer worked fine.

Here's one of the best articles about task killers that I've run across:

Task Killers Per Lifehacker:

Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn't Use Them
How Android Manages Processes

In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.

Why Task Killers Are (Usually) Bad News


Apps like Advanced Task Killer, the most popular task killer in the Market, act on the incorrect assumption that freeing up memory on an Android device is a good thing. When launched, it presents you with a list of "running" apps and the option to kill as many as you want. You can also hit the Menu button to access a more detailed "Services" view, that lists exactly which parts of each application are "running", how much memory they take up, and how much free memory is available on your phone. This set-up implies that the goal of killing these apps is to free up memory. Nowhere on the list does it mention the number of CPU cycles each app is consuming, only the memory you'll free by killing it. As we've learned, full memory is not a bad thing—we want to watch out for the CPU, the resource that actually slows down your phone and drains your battery life.
Thus, killing all but the essential apps (or telling Android to kill apps more aggressively with the "autokill" feature) is generally unnecessary. Furthermore, it's actually possible that this will worsen your phone's performance and battery life. Whether you're manually killing apps all the time or telling the task killer to aggressively remove apps from your memory, you're actually using CPU cycles when you otherwise wouldn't—killing apps that aren't doing anything in the first place.
In fact, some of the processes related to those apps will actually start right back up, further draining your CPU. If they don't, killing those processes can cause other sorts of problems—alarms don't go off, you don't receive text messages, or other related apps may force close without warning. All in all, you're usually better off letting your phone work as intended—especially if you're more of a casual user. In these instances, a task killer causes more problems than it solves.
What You Should Do Instead

That said, not all apps are created equal. Many of you have used task killers in the past and actually found that after freeing up memory, your phone works a bit better. It's more likely that this is because you've killed a bad app—one that was poorly coded, and (for example) keeps trying to connect to the internet even when it shouldn't. Any performance increase you experience is more likely because you killed the right app, not because you freed up loads of memory (or, in many cases, it's just placebo). Instead of killing all those apps, find out which ones are actually causing the problems. If you really know what you're doing, you may benefit from using a task killer to stop the one or two inefficient-but-loved apps on your phone.
Note, however, that this is still a contested notion. A lot of developers (including ROM builder extraordinaire, Cyanogen) will not even look at your bug reports if you're using a task killer. In this humble blogger's opinion, your best bet is to stay away from regular task killer usage entirely. If you absolutely have to have that one battery-killing app on your phone, though, kill away—just be aware that when you experience a recurring Android bug later on, the task killer may be at fault. Of course, you can just stop using it to determine whether that is or isn't the case.
 
The word 'bias' keeps being tossed around. (: to give a settled and often prejudiced outlook to)

It's not bias to experience yourself the lack of need for a task killer.

While I do understand each device is not the same nor is the configuration of every device.... but it's not 'bias' to say task killers are a waste.

Stop throwing that word around... it doesn't fit in this discussion.

Freedom of speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it is biased to tell everyone that they are bad based off your device and configuration
and to blindly tell people to remove them shows prejudice
some may need them when i ran other roms i needed them new bb and havent even installed them

Your negativity in this thread is unwarranted and un-needed.

And don't post a link to 'freedom of speech' when you're the one arguing with others who do not conform to your thoughts.

Consider this a warning.
 
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whatever man your just gonna censor my thoughts anyways as you have done in the past.


"Some people with some configurations and certain roms need task killers"
 
As a good faith gesture, I just Un-installed my Task Killer and will give it a try for several days. :)

Well, I have been trying this out for a week now. The battery does actually last much longer since I removed the task killer. It's nice not having to check the TK each time I use something also. I did DL a battery meter that shows percentage of battery left so I could track it. It's a beer glass that empty's out as the battery goes down. Placed the small widget on my DT.

Thanks for the heads up!

Now if I can just get this thing to stop yelling "DROID" at 6am when I turn my phone on each morning my wife will love it!
 
As a good faith gesture, I just Un-installed my Task Killer and will give it a try for several days. :)

Well, I have been trying this out for a week now. The battery does actually last much longer since I removed the task killer. It's nice not having to check the TK each time I use something also. I did DL a battery meter that shows percentage of battery left so I could track it. It's a beer glass that empty's out as the battery goes down. Placed the small widget on my DT.

Thanks for the heads up!

Now if I can just get this thing to stop yelling "DROID" at 6am when I turn my phone on each morning my wife will love it!

you can turn this off
settings -> sounds -> SD card notifications
 
As a good faith gesture, I just Un-installed my Task Killer and will give it a try for several days. :)

Well, I have been trying this out for a week now. The battery does actually last much longer since I removed the task killer. It's nice not having to check the TK each time I use something also. I did DL a battery meter that shows percentage of battery left so I could track it. It's a beer glass that empty's out as the battery goes down. Placed the small widget on my DT.

Thanks for the heads up!

Now if I can just get this thing to stop yelling "DROID" at 6am when I turn my phone on each morning my wife will love it!

you can turn this off
settings -> sounds -> SD card notifications

When I went there, the box is unchecked. Should I check it?
 
Well, I have been trying this out for a week now. The battery does actually last much longer since I removed the task killer. It's nice not having to check the TK each time I use something also. I did DL a battery meter that shows percentage of battery left so I could track it. It's a beer glass that empty's out as the battery goes down. Placed the small widget on my DT.

Thanks for the heads up!

Now if I can just get this thing to stop yelling "DROID" at 6am when I turn my phone on each morning my wife will love it!

you can turn this off
settings -> sounds -> SD card notifications

When I went there, the box is unchecked. Should I check it?

interesting, I was sure that the droid announcement at bootup was the sd card mount notification.

i'd check it. reboot. if it makes the noise, uncheck, reboot...
 
oh jeeze...another task killer thread

hey all. so i know we revisit this topic from time to time, and i think that time has come again.

have we come up with any new info on the "use task killer vs don't use task killer" debate? my friend picked up a new droid incredible just this friday and two of the best buy mobile employees pushed the advanced task killer download on him.

i know there's that video straight from google out there outlining how the android system works, and it suggests a task killer is not needed...but so many people insist they get better performance when they use one.

ugh...open platforms.
 
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