lol Kdubb...I'm not from Fontana...Redlands...but all Inland Empire none the less.
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Teacher had a panic attack with MY DROID in her hand
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You need to get out more often, my friend.
Houndstooth
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@kora
Good post, even though I pretty much disagree with everything you said based on two points. First, thinking of students as 'customers' leads to an attitude of entitlement in my opinion. The customer is not always going to be right. And of course, the kid himself isn't actually paying anyone's salary. Even the parents aren't really paying the teacher's salary.
Second, I think that especially during high school, there is a greater function to the education system than to just teach how to do math or spell. Schools also serve a social function, i.e. they teach you how to be good members of society, e.g. how to to act towards authority, how to be respectful of others, how to work in groups. It's not a court of law, they don't have a burden of proof to create a rule that no phones are allowed. If you look at laws such as search and seizure, students have less rights when in school precisely based on some of the points I've mentioned above.
In any case, I'll be sure to read your reply but I'll probably stop posting so we don't derail this thread too much.
Good post, even though I pretty much disagree with everything you said based on two points. First, thinking of students as 'customers' leads to an attitude of entitlement in my opinion. The customer is not always going to be right. And of course, the kid himself isn't actually paying anyone's salary. Even the parents aren't really paying the teacher's salary.
Second, I think that especially during high school, there is a greater function to the education system than to just teach how to do math or spell. Schools also serve a social function, i.e. they teach you how to be good members of society, e.g. how to to act towards authority, how to be respectful of others, how to work in groups. It's not a court of law, they don't have a burden of proof to create a rule that no phones are allowed. If you look at laws such as search and seizure, students have less rights when in school precisely based on some of the points I've mentioned above.
In any case, I'll be sure to read your reply but I'll probably stop posting so we don't derail this thread too much.
The only time students should be considered customers is when they pay their own tuition, which is not the case for most HS students 
Agreed on the thread derailing.
For the most part I am referring to a college class. As these are completely paid for by the student (or a grant, but lets not get into that), and I realize that high school students have less rights while in session, because they are minors being cared for by the school during school hours. But all the same, while they do have the right to tell students what they can and cannot do, I believe that, to a degree, it should take a more lax stance on the phone matter. Whether or not I am incorrect, my personal belief is that most of these teachers who don't like phones or music in their class (music would be another story, but to briefly touch on that, it wasn't allowed, but later on teachers became sufficiently laxer on the matter) would be those teachers that are, to some degree, be it slight to severe, technophobic.
And of course, I do not believe 'the student is always right' that isn't exactly the mentality I was going for. What I meant was, that the student bought the education, (remember I would be referring to college and other appropriate education systems here) if he/she is going to waste that, then so be it. In fact, in this scenario, I would say that the student is completely wrong.
We're watching you, kid. . . Always watching. :icon_ devil:
.CorvetteAustin24
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I'll be graduating from college in May, I use my phone in class during large lectures all the time. I also sit in the back as to not disrupt anyone else, but it's 1000% my right since I'm paying plenty of money to listen to poor lecturer's drone on and on, not coming even close to deserving what they earn.. I pay attention in the smaller sections however.
I've never encountered this, but if someone ever grabbed for my phone, regardless if it's a teacher/professor, it's theft, and I'll treat it like such. There's no such thing as lawfully holding someone's item that you stole from them, and doing as you please with it until you feel like giving it back.
I've never encountered this, but if someone ever grabbed for my phone, regardless if it's a teacher/professor, it's theft, and I'll treat it like such. There's no such thing as lawfully holding someone's item that you stole from them, and doing as you please with it until you feel like giving it back.
Well I can see the generation gap for sure. I'm wondering what the hell a high school kid needs a smart phone for. And how spoiled they must be for their parents to get one for them. And the fact that schools are disruptive enough these days without adding to it. Put the damn phone away and do what you are there to do. Learn. If you had a job that didn't allow cell phone use on the clock you wouldn't do it. I have two kids (17 and 13) and they both would be wearing a shoe up their ass if I found out they were using a phone in class. Dunno what it is these days but so many kids have zero respect for authority.
My kids can only call/text Family during class....Set that up at VZW...oh and 911.
Had to do it, they were doing over 15k txts a month....60% during school hours.
Had to do it, they were doing over 15k txts a month....60% during school hours.
I had assumed middle school (jr. high), based on the attitude.
Jeez I have no idea why I would have needed a smartphone in HS... I had a phone but I barley used it in class ( only on rare occasions, mostly to text my boss if I was going to be late or a quick message to a friend). I use my phone in class more in college depending on the class, and actually have a use for a smartphone now. I only use it in classes I'm not learning much from and its usually school related (besides in my awful classes, I bring my laptop for that). Im only 19 but I dont see why someone who is still in high school and not involved in a lot of different things needs a smartphone. I bought my own after everything i do caught up with m and I wasnt always in my room right after class (running clubs, sitting on a political science board, 2 radio shows, member in other various things and RA in the near future) I think that justifies a smartphone. I get where your teacher was coming from, she should have been mad that you were using a smartphone during class.
I remember when I was in HS people would text in class all the time and I never really got it, I had friends too and was busy enough but class was 45 minutes long...is there anything really that urgent that it cant wait? If its that urgent just go to the bathroom. Your teacher did go overboard by grabbing the phone and threatening to smash it....but it would be completely within her right to confiscate it, Im amazed how lax your schools rules are. At my high school, you could get in trouble for having a phone in your pocket.
Got a lil OT there but you get the point.
I remember when I was in HS people would text in class all the time and I never really got it, I had friends too and was busy enough but class was 45 minutes long...is there anything really that urgent that it cant wait? If its that urgent just go to the bathroom. Your teacher did go overboard by grabbing the phone and threatening to smash it....but it would be completely within her right to confiscate it, Im amazed how lax your schools rules are. At my high school, you could get in trouble for having a phone in your pocket.
Got a lil OT there but you get the point.
Will you please transfer your kids to my school? It's a sad state of affairs trying to teach kids these days. I have high school juniors who cannot add 4 + 4 without a calculator. I am not joking. And, forget about negative numbers. We used to be able to take cell phones from students who were texting or talking on them in class, but the administration got overwhelmed with cell phones and returning them to parents that they stopped that policy. Now cell phones, ipods, etc have taken over the classes.
It's a real shame.